ArrowheadOne: 2017 NFL Draft Open Thread- DAY 3

The NFL Draft is nothing, if not a marathon. The three-day event concludes today but the shaping of each team’s future still weighs in the balmy hands of one man for each team: the general manager (unless you’re the Dallas Cowboys). It’s one thing for Andy Reid and John Dorsey to have created an offseason plan back in January or February but quite another to pull off the trades that Dorsey’s been able to orchestrate in the first two days of the National Football League’s 2017 episodic adventure. Hats off to the grand master manipulator: Mister John Michael Dorsey.

 

 

Today’s proceedings begin with the Green Bay Packers selecting the 108th pick overall, the first pick in the 4th round… and will commence with the Denver Broncos bringing up the rear while making the last pick in the 7th round, pick #253. Following is a list of the picks that the Kansas City Chiefs — and Sir Dorsey — have, a total four. So, it remains a distinct possibility that the Chiefs will trade out, or up, or even Back to the Future in the 2018 draft.

 

 

 

Following is a list of the top 50 prospects remaining, provided by NFL.com.

 

  1. Dorian Johnson, OL, Pittsburgh
  2. Davon Godchaux, DT, LSU
  3. Tedric Thompson, S, Colorado
  4. Malachi Dupre, WR, LSU
  5. Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma

 

  1. Desmond King, CB, Iowa
  2. Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson
  3. Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee
  4. Carl Lawson, DE, Auburn
  5. Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming

 

  1. Joshua Dobbs, QB, Tennessee
  2. Isaac Asiata, OG, Utah
  3. Zach Banner, OT, USC
  4. Jeremy Sprinkle, TE, Arkansas
  5. Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M

 

  1. Vince Biegel, LB, Wisconsin
  2. Roderick Johnson, OT, Florida State
  3. Jaleel Johnson, DT, Iowa
  4. Julie’n Davenport, OT, Bucknell
  5. Dede Westbrook, WR, Oklahoma

 

  1. Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh
  2. David Sharpe, OT, Florida
  3. Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida
  4. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
  5. Ricky Seals-Jones, TE, Texas A&M

 

  1. Ishmael Zamora, WR, Baylor
  2. Bucky Hodges, TE, Virginia Tech
  3. Chad Hansen, WR, Cal
  4. Nico Siragusa, OL, San Diego State
  5. Brad Kaaya, QB, Miami

 

  1. KD Cannon, WR, Baylor
  2. Jake Butt, TE, Michigan
  3. Danny Isidora, OG, Miami
  4. Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson
  5. Anthony Walker, LB, Northwestern

 

  1. Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego St.
  2. Howard Wilson, CB, Houston
  3. Jehu Chesson, WR, Michigan
  4. Jessamen Dunker, OG, Tennessee St.
  5. Fadol Brown, DE, Ole Miss

 

  1. Collin Buchanan, OT, Miami (Ohio)
  2. Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M
  3. Shelton Gibson, WR, West Virginia
  4. Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise St.
  5. Mack Hollins, WR, North Carolina

 

  1. Tarik Cohen, RB-KR, North Carolina A&T
  2. Jalen Myrick, CB, Minnesota
  3. Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State
  4. Brandon Barnes, TE, Alabama St.
  5. Ben Gedeon, ILB, Michigan

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  • berttheclock

    Just wanted to mention another plus for the new EDGE rusher from Villanova for the Chiefs. He fits Dorsey desire for a high SPARQ score of 126.7 which was 3rd highest for that position.

  • berttheclock

    I still want to see the names of Samson Ebukam of Eastern Washington, ILB/OLB and Jacob Hollister of Wyoming, TE, added to the Red and Gold.

  • berttheclock

    Dang it all. Draft to commence in about 50 minutes and there is the strangest thing happening out side at the moment. In the blue sky above, there is some strange round shape which is extremely bright. Have no idea what it is and/or what that means when Pat yells, potting soil time. See, here in the PNW, we have that old favorite song of “April, May and June showers make whatever happens in July”. Not as catchy as the other version back east, but, more realistic to the area.

  • Laurels and limitations

    I see that Anthony Walker from Northwestern is still available. He popped up early on the ol’ radar when the offseason first began, he’s raw but he’s not afraid to hit and has good speed.

    • berttheclock

      Amazing how so many names surfaced early, then, went into a fade of sorts, eh? I recall when he was Mocked to the Chiefs

    • I think he fits better the NFL and what would be his mission than evaluators believe. He is one player in the list I would like to have. The are a lot of good picks left. the trade of James O. gives an idea on Escobar and what might happen in the draft. There are several good corners out there as well…Wilson and King are 2. LBs still there with Walker, Gedeon, and there are OL worth drafting. I like Zack Banner and a couple more, Asiata, Isadora and Dunker for example. TEs too.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    We traded TE James O’Shaughnessy & the 216th pick to the Patriots and acquired the 183rd pick from New England in return. pic.twitter.com/h8rX1nYYGo— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) April 29, 2017

    • berttheclock

      So, at 183, stay tuned and forget about Draft Tek’s pick at 216.

    • and pared down one more pick(Money).

    • tm1946

      Like it but hate that is was NE…. they seem to have an edge on acquiring talent that plays game day…actually not true, just seems that way.

    • Laurels and limitations

      BB/TB will make him a super star. I’m surprised anybody out there is willing to deal in trades involving BB, it’s like hand feeding an adult shark.

  • berttheclock

    For what it is worth. Draft Tek has opined @170, Ben Gideon, ILB, Michigan, @180 is Jalen Myrick, Minnesota, DB. longer arms, but, speed. Tends to need more attacking on run defense, but, he would be a counterpart to Murray who played with him at Minnesota, @216 is Mathew Dayes, RB from NC State and @218 is Artavis Scott, the Clemson speedster of a wide out.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Chiefs now have 3 picks in the 5th round and one in the 6th.

    • berttheclock

      @ 183 could put Jeremy Sprinkle, TE, Arkansas in play. Or, Jayon Brown, ILB from UCLA or Aviante Collins, OG, TCU.

      I would bet on Sprinkle.

      • berttheclock

        Slightly smaller version of Mercedes Lewis, the TE of the Jags. Bit of a plodder at times and can fight the ball on receptions, but, over all, he was productive in 2015 as a pass catcher and can block when, he lines up close to the defensive player.

  • Some pretty good picks still out there. Will be interesting.

  • Frank Rodela

    With Shag being traded, could Butt be on the radar

    • tm1946

      We are at pick 110 on tv…. seems a stretch to think the Chiefs know who will be available…. IMO, a way to get rid of a pick we would have to pay and probably not play… trade it away….might find a diamond in the coal bin.

      • Frank Rodela

        Gotcha, I’m out on a food run for the wife, then have to go pick the rest of the kids up so they can meet the new baby, so I won’t be able to watch much today

        • tm1946

          Have a great day (rainy?) with the kids. Truthfully based strictly on all the mock draft we read and commented on… the Chiefs have a plan and we are not involved.

          • Frank Rodela

            No rain here, going to hit 90 with clear skies. As far as the draft plan, I like what they have done so far

          • tm1946

            Wish I was there, up to my ears with rain in KS. As for the draft, would have liked the QBOTF added a couple of years ago. As for the positions, we can use these new kids…. as for the kids, never heard of any of them but with the extra picks given to get in place to draft them, they must be good. Like is a strong word, satisfied is a better fit.

    • ladner morse

      What did we get for Shag?

      • ladner morse

        183rd pick? Cool… more trade bait.

        • berttheclock

          We, also, gave up the 216 pick.

  • ladner morse

    What did I miss?????

  • ladner morse

    Shag out… Butt in?

    • ladner morse

      I know… I know… that just doesn’t sound right.

  • berttheclock

    Vince Ferragamo just made the Rams selection. VInce had the strongest arm of any NFL QB for years, but, he could not change up and throw short and teams began to intercept him. He is the major reason I don’t get too excited when fans keep telling me about some fan favorite who has a strong arm. It takes far more to be a successful QB in the NFL than to just have a rifle mounted on your right shoulder.

  • ladner morse

    Now we have:

    Round 5 – Pick 27 – Overall – 170
    Round 5 – Pick 37 – Overall – 180
    Round 5 – Pick 40 – Overall – 183
    Round 6 – Pick 35 – Overall – 218

    Is Andy Reid thinking Gavin Escobar will be better than James O’Shaughnessy?

    My hope is that Dorsey would package a couple of these picks to move up and take one of the remaining TEs.

    • berttheclock

      The NFLN crew said the first thing they had realized about O’Shaughnessy was how good he was on special teams. That is, probably, why BB wanted him.

      • ladner morse

        …….. and……. to be the backup TE when ground goes down again.

        • berttheclock

          Perhaps, Sprinkle of Arkansas will be in play @ 183 for Dorsey?

  • Laurels and limitations

    my lord, this draft day is taking forever….. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/711733819f6923cbac1e4806af749be4db8ffbe629879c15bc88524f174b5880.gif
    seems like just last week that KC was last up.

  • berttheclock

    There goes another LB out the window. Ben Gideon to the Vikings.

  • berttheclock

    Niners traded up to take Joe Williams, RB from the Running Utes.

    • ladner morse

      He’s going to love SF…. and he’ll end up being a good one.

  • berttheclock

    Dang it all. Left the computer to head back to see NFLN and a damned Peyton commercial was on.

  • berttheclock

    Can I type enough curse words to say how I really feel at the moment? I have touted Samson Ebukam, the ILB/OLB from Eastern Washington and hoped Dorsey could select him in the 6th. The Rams have just taken him at 125 in the 4th round and Mayock is thrilled about him. He will be a great NFL player and the Chiefs really missed out by not trying to figure out how to take him.

    • berttheclock

      The Rams GM is really clicking on all cylinders. He has been loading the team with receivers and, now, switches to defense.

  • ladner morse

    I’m tired of the NFL draft announcements-turned shameful entertainment becoming a joke. Please don’t drag it out and turn this already long, tedious, cumbersome and arduous event into a processional of ridiculousness.

    • berttheclock

      The Vegas promo was very poor.

      • ladner morse

        Yeah… because Vegas NEEDs a promo.

    • David Perkins

      Agree

  • berttheclock

    The Raiders just improved their offensive line by taking the massive LOT from Florida. He needs more development, but, his claim to fame came against Mizzou when he handled Harris very well.

  • berttheclock

    Howie Roseman was very smart to pick up the small, but, dynamic Donnell Pumphrey. He will get lost behind their O-line, then, explode down field.

  • berttheclock

    Great stat put up with the Pats’ pick showing how many low round picks and, especially, UDFAs were responsible for the winning TD by the Pats in the SB. Belichick knows how to spot talent and he has said repeatedly, he could care less about rounds being involved with the picks and he does not value a straight line 40 very much, either.

    • ladner morse

      I saw that. Just shows that Belichick knows how to be specific with the players he drafts. If they do one thing well.. he has them perfect it.

      • berttheclock

        Also, if any player who plays against him excels, he tries his best to try to convince him to jump to the Pats. He has done this more than once. Edelman was a classic example of that and last year, he convinced a wide out from the Bills to come over.

  • Merlin

    I am off work and in the house! Nice to see the ultra hard core draft nuts here!

    • berttheclock

      Hey, it is, either, this or helping Pat put potting soil in baskets. Torn, truly, torn.

  • ladner morse

    Josh Dobbs will be the Steelers QBOTF?

  • berttheclock

    The Steelers have their heir apparent to Big Ben. Josh Dobbs of Tennessee, who is both smart and extremely mobile

    • berttheclock

      Plus, as just noted by Jeremiah, Big Ben will miss at least 3 games during the season while fighting injuries, so, expect Dobbs to get real time game experience. He will not just carry a clip board.

  • ladner morse

    Hahahaha… an Ape just announced Zach banner to the Colts.

  • ladner morse

    Chiefs traded up to #139???

    • Merlin

      Dorsey is really targeting this draft. Quality over quantity

      • Laurels and limitations

        yep, it seems now that the FO feels that the roster’s base is set, they are targeting impact/role players. I like the feeling.

  • ladner morse

    Chiefs pick #139 = WR Jehu Chesson

    • berttheclock

      They gave up their 170 and 180 in the 5th for him. He is close to six three, has speed and was under utilized in Michigan which did not have the best QB. So, size and speed. Mayock predicts he will have a far better pro career than he did in college.

  • ladner morse

    Surprise, surprise… NFL.com spent all of 35 seconds on the Chiefs pick.

    • berttheclock

      The wanted to show the beast of a war plane.

  • Merlin

    If you told me before the draft the Chiefs would go QB, DE, RB and WR with their first 4 picks, I would have been surprised.

  • ladner morse

    I don’t understand this move. Why would they MOVE UP to pick a WR?

    • Laurels and limitations

      Dorsey sees something he likes, and with the roster mostly set, he can splurge a bit.

    • berttheclock

      Dorsey might have lost Albert Wilson’s phone number?

      • berttheclock

        But, I really hope Dorsey can send a U-Haul number to Wilson in the very near future.

    • berttheclock

      Dorsey may have received a call from Rich Eisen to inform him no wide out scored a TD last year?

    • Merlin

      Dorsey must have had a 3rd round grade on him.

      • berttheclock

        But, once again, all of those visits by prospects to One Arrowhead tell we fans nothing about what Dorsey really thinks.

        • Laurels and limitations

          I bet we’ll see a few UDFA signings be added to the training camp roster from those who visited.

  • ladner morse

    So, here’s what the Chiefs have left:

    Round 5 – Pick 40 – Overall – 183

    Round 6 – Pick 35 – Overall – 218

  • freshmeat62

    My town, Knob Noster, was mentioned on the NFL draft. Yeaaaaa!

    • My frosh bb team, best yours in a tourney there….we went 14- 0 and they moved me and out Ctr plus other coward to varsity. My best game g Archie st 4a runner up that year. This was at the old cracker Nov courts abt to end their eta. Archie too.

  • berttheclock

    Reading scouting reports of Chesson, they appear to be mixed. He had a far better year in 2015 while playing with a much better QB than he did in 2016. Plus, he injured his knee near the end of 2015 and it slowed him heading into 2016. He was able to turn it on near the end of the year. However, prior to that he had problems when pressed. But, in his favor, in 2015 he did very well against Vernon Hargreaves, a top CB pick last year. He is known for being able to hand fight and is tough in a crowd as he will go up and fight for the ball. He needs to work on his tree routes, but, what wide out coming into the NFL doesn’t. Also, he can block and at Michigan was used to return kicks.

    • freshmeat62

      Yeah reading the reports they’re not real glowing, but am encouraged that they said his best years are probably ahead of him.

  • berttheclock

    So, still no TE. No LB. No O-line depth.

  • Merlin

    Denver got Butt, Laddie, how do you feel about that?

    • ladner morse

      Now Denver will have o be the Butt of all my jokes.

    • berttheclock

      Butt burned?

    • ladner morse

      If Butt comes all the way back, Denver will have a good player.

      • berttheclock

        However, when Eisen asked his panel what they thought of Elway’s earlier picks, the responses were mostly, “Meh”.

  • ladner morse

    And now Damontae Kazee is going to Atlanta.

    • ladner morse

      Oh well… can’t win em all.

      • Merlin

        bert is already making a list of players Dorsey passed on.

        • berttheclock

          Yes, Desmond King going to the Chargers might hurt us.

  • Laurels and limitations

    Chiefs scout Pat Sperduto on Chesson: “This guy’s gonna bring a lunch pail. He’s not a prima-donna with receiver.” (Scouting report coming)— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) April 29, 2017

    • tm1946

      As in he has no speed or separation but can play with Al. Wilson?

      • Laurels and limitations

        they blame his last season in college on a knee problem that has fully healed now, and horrid QB play.

  • Laurels and limitations

    I asked @PatrickMahomes5 about when he became aware of his ridiculous arm strength. His answer was awesome. pic.twitter.com/yPjOrpOLDO— Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) April 29, 2017

  • Laurels and limitations

    Just finished the Kareem Hunt review, should go up tomorrow or Sunday. Really impressive vision/balance/power/elusiveness. I like him.— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) April 29, 2017

    • berttheclock

      As the Judge said in “My Cousin Vinny”, “Glad you approve”.

  • berttheclock

    John Lynch is building talent in the Bay. George Kittle, the TE from Iowa is more of a tweener type, FB/H-Back/TE, who can be used very well in their schemes.

  • Laurels and limitations

    #ChiefsKingdom: "It'll never happen. They don't draft first-round QBs. Top guys won't even be available."John Dorsey: "Hold my beer."— BJ (@bkissel7) April 28, 2017

  • berttheclock

    So far, as to our division rivals, it would appear that the Chargers and Raiders are really helping themselves. Not so much being done in Denver.

  • Laurels and limitations

    Our remaining picks in the #NFLDraft.* *Subject to change per John Dorsey trading up for a 4th time. pic.twitter.com/qN7TzLSsX3— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) April 29, 2017

    • berttheclock

      I am still hoping he trades the 5th to Philly for Kendricks.

      • Laurels and limitations

        I like Kendricks, Dorsey would have to free up some more money from somewhere, somehow though.

  • berttheclock

    I won’t be there due to the heat, but, St Joe should be extremely interesting this summer.

  • berttheclock

    Forget Jeremy Sprinkle. He just was selected by Washington.

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      I just got home and that stinks.

      • Laurels and limitations

        try opening some windows. Just kidding, Juuuuuuuust kidding.

        • PaulfromnorthMO

          That’s what my wife says.

          • Laurels and limitations

            mine tells me to light a match, and when she uses my middle name I listen.

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            Usually mine tells me to go outside, I tell her I don’t get the same echo outside.

          • Laurels and limitations

            lol

  • Laurels and limitations

    This is factual

    Jake Butt plays Bowl game, gets hurt, slips to 5th round. Fournette and McCaffrey sat out Bowl, went top 8 overall. Players will take note.— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) April 29, 2017

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      Sad, but true!

      • Laurels and limitations

        it will become the new norm.

  • berttheclock

    This 5th round is solid so far. Excellent players flying off the board.

    • Laurels and limitations

      the depth of quality players this year is unreal.

  • Laurels and limitations

    I’ve seen the A-10 in action a few times, not much can make you feel better than being on the correct side of one of these bad-asses.

    Here is the selection by Airman Bryan Nixon from Whiteman Air Force Base of Michigan WR Jehu Chesson. pic.twitter.com/FWqje7y8Xy— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) April 29, 2017

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      Fill me in, did we trade back up into the 4th?

      • berttheclock

        Gave up the 170 and 180 in the fifth to Minnesota to move up.

        • PaulfromnorthMO

          WOW, do we owe the Vikings for some reason I’m not aware of?

          • Laurels and limitations

            Dorsey ain’t playin’ this year. If he wants someone he goes and gets them. I like this newly revealed character aspect of JARD, a lot.

          • berttheclock

            He is showing more Belichick this year.

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            Ain’t no BPA this year, the man is targeting players he wants.

          • Laurels and limitations

            100% agreed.

          • ladner morse

            Yes… but… once he gets to his trade location… he is taking the BPA.

            He drops the mic.

          • Laurels and limitations

            not yet I hope, Kc still has picks remaining.

          • tm1946

            And to think – not an impact player in the bunch… pure genius. Does not count about Mahomes, we needed a QBOTF but the rest are bench riders.

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            Hope for playoffs this year, maybe a small setback in ’18, SB in ’19 with the new improved Chiefs.

          • tm1946

            Can lose a lot of games between now and then.

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            I may be pessimistic tm, and prior to last year I was an AS11 supporter. But watching our team play last year, I don’t think we will see the SB until the QB spot is upgraded. IF we are building around our QBOTF, to maybe dominate in the near future, I’m going to be ok with that. We could have lost several more games last year than we did and the games we win, we don’t dominate. I want to crush the opponents we should, not squeak by.

          • Laurels and limitations
          • Laurels and limitations

            can’t disagree.

          • berttheclock

            What the HELL do you think Hunt will be???????????????

            He will be the starter with Ware his backup and they will share carries. Why do you have such concern about the NOW? Dorsey does not and that is why I am very happy he is the GM.

          • tm1946

            WTF do you think…. RB by committee is so neat. 3 average RB’s make so much sense.

            And YES… I WANT SOME FUCKING NOW. You seem happy to think about the wonders of 2018 or later.

            We will be playing 2017+ with 2016 roster… maybe the league can give the Chiefs byes.

          • Laurels and limitations

            I have to disagree to an extent here. If you are referring to 2017 starters, yeah, but if you are looking to 2018 and beyond…I disagree whole- heartedly. The KC FO obviously feels that the current roster is strong (and why wouldn’t they?) so they are looking for players that can have a considerable impact after some development.

          • tm1946

            If you are satisfied with that while the rest of the league is trying to add talent for this year…. good.

          • Laurels and limitations

            I won’t be satisfied until KC has the Lombardi sitting at One Arrowhead drive. But in this circumstance I agree with Dorsey…the current roster is good, not great, but good enough to go places until the new crop can hopefully develop into a powerhouse. The foundation is set and Dorsey is building the rest of the structure.

          • berttheclock

            The Vikings had just picked up this pick in another trade with another team.

      • Laurels and limitations

        Bert beat me to it, he’s on top of all this.

    • berttheclock

      They used to be stationed in Oak Harbor, WA, which is north of Seattle. I remember when some top brass thought they could phase them out, but, they are so effective that they are still in service.

      • Laurels and limitations

        and have been for decades. The dummy heads in charge of the military are still talking about phasing them out but it is due more the existing stock’s ever increasing age moreso than any event of ineffectualness.

  • berttheclock

    Chesson has run a 4.4 40. What made some of the scouts question his speed was the fact he hurt his knee near the end of 2015 and was slow to get into shape in eraly 2016. By the end of the year, he was back at full speed. So, yes, he does have speed.

    • Laurels and limitations

      how is his three cone and route running though? That is what interests me.

      • berttheclock

        Well, Geez, fella………….

        • berttheclock

          Needs some work on his route tree as Harbaugh was not too interested in teaching that.

      • PaulfromnorthMO

        3 cone 6.70, short shuttle 4.09. Rated 14th WR on sparq.

        • Laurels and limitations

          and theres you have it folks. STs/development player.

          • Laurels and limitations

            and just to clarify, I’m perfectly good with this.

  • Laurels and limitations

    Crap, there went Walker to Tenn. I was hoping KC had their collective eyes on him.

    • Laurels and limitations

      oops….Indy.

      • Merlin

        I like Walker. Oh well

        • Laurels and limitations

          He was an early off-season man crush of mine, but you can’t win them all.

        • berttheclock

          Geez, it was only yesterday it seems when he was one of the first to KC on the Mocks, then Feeney, the OG from Indiana.

  • berttheclock

    Chesson’s Combine stats. 10 yard, 1.65, 20 yard, 2.6, 40, 4.47, 3 cone 6.7, 20 yard shuttle 4.09, vertical jump, 39 and one half, 11 foot long jump and 13 on the bench press.

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      Almost identical to Conley. JARD is setting up tall, fast WR’s that can leap for 2018.

      • berttheclock

        The word on Chesson is he is a hand fighter who loves to go up in a crowd and come down with the ball. He is six three. He just needs far better tree route instruction .

      • Laurels and limitations

        going to come in handy, PM trusts his arm a little too much at times. I see plenty of contested catches in KC’s future. FUN times!

      • Calchiefsfan

        I think Conley’s numbers were a lot better, 4.35 40, 45 vertical, 18 bench, 11’7″ broad jump. It looks like Cheeson’s strengths are blocking and winning contested balls, weaknesses are getting separation and burst off the line.

  • PaulfromnorthMO

    So is our next pick 183 from Pats?

  • tm1946

    Been on the road this morning…. KC radio talking heads are coming in line with – no impact players this year. Mahomes is a good one but the rest…. not going to help in 2017….we will play 2017 with 2016’s roster, basically.

    • berttheclock

      As usual, talking heads know little. Mahomes II is going to receive a ton of training from Alex Smith. Hunt, the new RB will get a lot of work. The EDGE rusher from Villanova is going to be given a lot of training, but, it would not surprise me to see him get some playing time near the end of the year. Same with Chesson. Another reason I have stopped listening to any talking head.

      • Calchiefsfan

        IIRC Chris Jones was considered somewhat of a project and wouldn’t see much time his first year. I’m thinking Reid has the same plan for Tanoh Kpassagnon, (boy I’m going to have to practice typing that!). Hunt will see a ton of work.

        • Laurels and limitations

          I agree, kinda like releasing the Kraken. I’m not going to ever type the guys name though…he’s officially hereby and forever going forward known as TK.

  • PaulfromnorthMO

    I wanted McNichols, I would have taken him as my RB is the 4th.

  • Laurels and limitations

    Here's our scouting report on Chiefs 4th-rounder Jehu Chesson: https://t.co/x4EfY3zEOd— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) April 29, 2017

    • Laurels and limitations

      He already has his Master’s degree and the scouts threw out this little tid-bit also
      He’s not a prima donna with receiver.” Needs to work his way into a role but could be ready to help quickly. “He’s a polished kid. He’s not the type of kid that will need too much time to develop because he’s smart, he’s tough, he’s got physical tools.”

      Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/red-zone/article147608144.html#storylink=cpy

  • ladner morse

    NFL: Chiefs Trade Up to Draft WR Jehu Chessonhttps://t.co/tfZwihlMF2ArrowheadOne – Laddie Morse pic.twitter.com/WjFVEqCukl— Ladner Morse (@Laddiemorse) April 29, 2017

  • ladner morse

    QB Nathan Peterman to Buffalo!

  • Laurels and limitations

    did anyone else watch them poor souls standing outside in Denver and think…”that place sucks”?

  • PaulfromnorthMO

    So we traded O’Shaughnessy away, that means we still have the two b-ballers. Maybe we can trade both of them for a 2019 7th round comp.

    • Laurels and limitations

      I guess Harris is still on the roster, but I have zero idea as to why. I’m betting he gets replaced with an UDFA.

      • PaulfromnorthMO

        Maybe one of these last two picks will be a TE.

        • Laurels and limitations

          We have an injured Kelce (healing right now), Harris if he has made it out of County jail, Ross ( who remains relatively quiet) and that cat from Dallas. I’m not sure beyond Kelce who is even going to make it out of camp.

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            I forgot the Dallas kid. I guess JARD thinks we’re set.

          • Laurels and limitations

            Dorsey and his TE corp. is one thing I will have to strongly disagree with. I miss Fasano.

  • Calchiefsfan

    So where is this years Tyreek Hill? C’mom Dorse.

    • Laurels and limitations

      Cincinnati picked up Mixon.

      • PaulfromnorthMO

        LOL

      • Calchiefsfan

        Too funny

        • berttheclock

          Burtaze and Pac-Man will be his mentors.

  • Who do we get in the 5th? Any good ILBs still out there?

    • ladner morse

      I don’t see any ILBs but there are a few DTs.

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      I am hoping for OLB and TE with our last 2.

  • ladner morse

    Chiefs should pick again around 3:00 PM Central

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      If we still have 183 Laddie, that’s only two picks away.

      • Laurels and limitations

        yup, next.

      • ladner morse

        Wow… going fast now.

  • Laurels and limitations

    Kizer looked sad in his interview over his role in Cleveland. Can’t say I blame him.

    • ladner morse

      I was thinking he looks sad too.

      He should.

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      He got drafted into the NFL, grow up.

      • ladner morse

        I know. Sorry… now you have to make hundreds of thousands and millions possibly.

        • PaulfromnorthMO

          Hard to feel sorry for any of them.

          • ladner morse

            I’m just so glad Kizer is not a Chiefs player now.

          • Laurels and limitations

            some people really wanted him. I just don’t see Cleveland as a place where a QB can be groomed.

      • PaulfromnorthMO

        I mean for Kizer to grow up.

        • Laurels and limitations

          lol, we’re good. I knew what you meant.

      • Laurels and limitations

        lol, I’d be kicking and screaming like a 3 year old if Cleveland drafted me. I wonder how many draftees debate not answering their phones when Cleveland is on the board during the draft.

        • PaulfromnorthMO

          I remember how Eli was all pouty when he was the number 1 overall pick by SD. I’ve hated the SOB ever since.

          • Laurels and limitations

            Didn’t Elway do the same thing?

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            Yep, that’s another reason we all love him so much. He refused to play for the…..Colts, IIRC. Better check with Bert on that.

          • Laurels and limitations

            where IS Bert?

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            DK, maybe nap time. It is lunch hour out west, though.

          • Laurels and limitations

            he said the sun was out earlier too. That means all the tween vampires are up in the hills and the uninfected can walk outside without fear for a bit. Worst part of the PNW, all the transient vampires.

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            LOL

  • ladner morse

    LB Ekeme Eligwe

    • Laurels and limitations

      Who!?

  • PaulfromnorthMO

    We got a LB, who is he?

    • Laurels and limitations

      nobody knows

      • berttheclock

        Frank does, but, he is absent at the moment.

    • Calchiefsfan

      PFF says “Ukeme Eligwe struggles to defend out in space, but is capable of playing the run inside. He ranked 17th among inside linebackers in the draft class in pass-rush productivity with 11 total pressures.”

  • ladner morse

    Ukeme

  • ladner morse

    Eligwe

  • ladner morse

    He’s a LB

    • ladner morse

      Ranked 505 overall by CBS Sports

  • Frank Rodela

    Inside or out?

  • Laurels and limitations
  • PaulfromnorthMO

    6-2 239 ILB from Georgia Southern, dismissed from FSU.

  • Laurels and limitations

    watch at 38 seconds, he catches better than 3/4 of the resident KC receivers, lol.
    https://youtu.be/xZCxBb2gTkE

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      Special teamer and role player!

  • berttheclock

    He had a very good Pro Day where the Chiefs had scouts attend. Highly rated LB in HS and went to Florida State for two years. Dismissed over rules violations which have never been disclosed.. Recently, Frank and I talked about him after his Georgia Southern Pro Day. Another player who will need work from Gary Gibbs, but, worth the pick. I have read he can drop into coverage.

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      Will he play inside or out?

      • berttheclock

        Might be wrong, but, I thought he had played inside in the past. He is six two and weighs 234. He ran a 4.58 40 at his Pro Day. I’ll try to check how he was used at Georgia Southern.

        • Laurels and limitations

          I see you survived the undead, that’s a good thing.

          • berttheclock

            Peterman to the Bills, eh? I just had to chill for awhile.

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            If your cooled off, we need your expertise, who did Elway refuse to play for?

          • berttheclock

            Wasn’t it Baltimore?

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            That’s what I was thinking.

        • berttheclock

          I was wrong. He was listed on their 2016 depth chart as the outside on a 4-3 defense.

          • Laurels and limitations

            people are seeing that he was used all over the place. Toub has a new shiny toy to play with it seems.

          • berttheclock

            Happens a lot in college where a coach realizes who his best player is and allows him to free lance. In fact, Nicholas was used in some very strange areas in college including being placed inside on the D-line.

          • Laurels and limitations

            factual.

      • Laurels and limitations

        looks like he’s an outside guy. He played both OLB and DE in college.

        • Frank Rodela

          Highlight tape below looks like some inside too

          • Laurels and limitations

            don’t doubt that.

          • Frank Rodela

            Like the coverage

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            Versatile, we like versatile.

          • Laurels and limitations

            Toub LUVS him some versatility!!

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Like the selection of Eligwe good athlete with upside. Another DJA type player.

  • Frank Rodela

    Where did Butt fall?

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      On his gluts

      • Frank Rodela

        Nice

    • berttheclock

      Denver.

      • PaulfromnorthMO

        CBS tracker is showing Butt to Denver and Kittle to SF, is that wrong?

        • berttheclock

          Yes, I typed too fast. Earlier, I said that Kittle will fit in the Bay as he is more of a tweener type, FB/H-Back/TE. I had wondered how Reid would have used him had they drafted him. Draft Tek had the Chiefs taking him.

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      Denver got him. I think pick 1, r 5.

      • Frank Rodela

        NOOOO

        • berttheclock

          Don’t worry. They will misuse him.

    • Laurels and limitations

      Denver

  • Heilios

    Sorry I’m late guys,had to work today.what did I miss?

    • berttheclock

      You were traded to ……………………

      • Heilios

        Not to AA! Not AA! Too many trolls!

        • Laurels and limitations

          LMBO!!

  • Heilios

    Has Dorsey been trading around again?

  • Heilios

    We drafted a receiver in the 4th???

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      Yep, and a LB in the 5th.

      • Heilios

        Who?

        • PaulfromnorthMO

          Ukeme Eligwe

          • Heilios

            Is that a real name or did you just smash your keyboard?

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            I would tell you but……….

          • berttheclock

            He was born in the Ivory Coast. His parents brought him to the US when he was two. At the time he was in the Ivory Coast, there was a great deal of killing going on by a very brutal group trying to take over the government. They spared no one.

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            6-2 234 from Georgia Southern. ran a 4.58 40

    • berttheclock

      Yes, Chesson.Six three who had a better year in 2015. Hurt his knee heading into 2016 and tailed off until near the end of the season. Mayock feels his best work is ahead of him.

  • Heilios

    Now the big question is who will Dorsey sign as UDFA

    • berttheclock

      Calls will begin in about an hour.

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      Prior to the draft, the mothership had 73 players on the roster. It looks like we’ll draft 6, so we have room to sign 11 to fill up the 90.

      • Laurels and limitations

        13 when both Spiiler and Harris are released.

        • PaulfromnorthMO

          Unfortunately, I think they’ll both go to camp.

          • Laurels and limitations

            Boooo!!

        • berttheclock

          Will Albert Wilson be their get away driver?

          • Laurels and limitations

            Lol, nope….he’s WR#2 on the depth chart.

    • Laurels and limitations

      they’re a-comin’!!

    • berttheclock

      You really like these “Into the air, junior birdmen, into the air, upside down” types, eh?

      • Yup. My alma mater. I have watched both play. Steelhammer can hit. Robinette can catch, but they are a run first, second,…., fifteenth kind of team.

        • berttheclock

          Interesting that Pat and I have been watching the 2nd season of “Baskets” on HBO. During the episodes, the Academy keeps running commercials trying to recruit.

    • Heilios

      I would want steelhammer just to be able to say “dang he hammered him!”

  • Heilios

    Ok I just saw Hunt’s video. SO MANY BROKEN TACKLES!

    • berttheclock

      College PFF says it was 98 last year.

    • Laurels and limitations

      that is his specialty.

    • berttheclock

      As I posted much earlier, Ware will love the amount of rests Hunt will be able tp provide for him. This will help keep Ware much fresher.

      • Laurels and limitations

        yup, and that is badly needed. Ware plays tough, but so do defenders.

      • PaulfromnorthMO

        If we need Hunt for that, then West’s days should be numbered.

        • Roswell Incident

          I would think so. But the way we went through RBs last season, depth is good.

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            But we only have room for a certain number on the 53. If both Ware and Hunt are bruisers, maybe Sherman will be gone.

          • Heilios

            Doubtful. Sherman is a monster. More than likely it will be West as much as it pains me to say. I’ve always liked him.

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            But there are a lot of cap dollars to Sherman for limited plays.

        • Laurels and limitations

          if Reaves is healthy, maybe. Thing is, Ware, Hunt, and Reaves all play very similarly. Where is the lightning to the Thunder?

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            Spiller, lol

      • Roswell Incident

        I’ve seen people complain that he’s too much like Ware. As far as I’m concerned, if we can sub Ware out and put a fresh “Ware.2” in, that’s awesome.

    • Roswell Incident

      And from what I’ve read, good vision. We need a guy that can hit holes (of course, first we need to create them, but I’m hopeful the integrity of the line will pay off).

      • berttheclock

        He appears to be a bit slow to start, but, that more to do with reading the blocking. What sets him apart is how he explodes through the hole. Not breakaway speed, but, he will move the chains.

  • PaulfromnorthMO

    How about Rehkow in the 6th.

    • berttheclock

      Good plan.

      • ladner morse

        🙂

  • PaulfromnorthMO

    Wow, Hodges fell all the way to the middle of the 6th. It wasn’t that long ago some of these experts were calling him a first rounder.

    • berttheclock

      Yes, but, the amount of TEs taken must set a record. Pundits said that group was deep and I still have hopes Dorsey will sign Jacob Hollister from Wyoming as an UDFA.

      • PaulfromnorthMO

        I wonder if he’ll still sign Fugate?

        • berttheclock

          If Stave is released, having one on the PS is not a bad idea. Now, he will not get many reps. However, there were other teams interested in him, so, trying to stash him on the PS might backfire.

  • Laurels and limitations

    Ugh, my internet is horrible. It used to be so dang good but as with everything else these modern days, the provider’s service has been severely diluted.

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      Do you have fiber optic?

      • Laurels and limitations

        not an option here in the boondocks. DSL is about as good as we can get. Nope, the root of the problem lies in that the provider outsold their coverage and killed the bandwidth with no feasible way in which they can provide good service. You can rest assured that the price of this crap didn’t decrease though.

        • PaulfromnorthMO

          Up here in the middle of nowhere, our little local company came in and put fiber in all the surrounding burgs. It has been kinda nice. The fiber went in last fall.

          • Laurels and limitations

            we were supposed to have that a couple of years ago when the big companies put fiber optic into town but it died from there. I’m going to hopefully find another provider but it’s hard to find one with the correct abilities here. Paying 100 speed price for 1 speed service is just plain wrong,

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            You have options? We have our little local company or no-one. I guess for internet I could use hughs-net or something like that, but I’ve never heard good things about them if there is a choice.

          • berttheclock

            Google and other companies are starting to back away from fibre op. I believe if they had the chance to do it over again in KCK, they would pass. They were supposed to come into Portland, OR to install it and scared Century Link into trying to beat them to it, but, suddenly, they decided it was no longer the way to go. Far more problems than they realized at first.

          • PaulfromnorthMO

            So far mine is better, faster with fewer brownouts.

  • ladner morse

    Chiefs Draft Linebacker/Special teams Ace Ukeme Eligwehttps://t.co/fuPG8WKsUXArrowheadOne – Laddie Morse pic.twitter.com/0qIsTsKRzp— Ladner Morse (@Laddiemorse) April 29, 2017

    • Roswell Incident

      There we are: Toub’s thumbprint.

      • Merlin

        Is that a Toubprint?

  • berttheclock

    Washington just picked up a very good wide from Georgia Southern. He had an excellent Pro Day.

    • PaulfromnorthMO

      I just saw that. Davis was a late round WR I would have liked, but after picking a WR in the 4th, I doubt we double up with only 1 more pick.

  • PaulfromnorthMO

    Elijah Qualls just went to the Eagles. Some of us were looking at him in the 3rd.

    • berttheclock

      He could tough inside.

  • PaulfromnorthMO

    And with pick 218, the Chiefs select Safety Leon McQuay.

  • berttheclock

    Leon McQuay III from USC, Safety.

  • And we still need a CB. Or, is the FO/CS big on our current lineup there?

  • berttheclock

    McQuay is truly a head scratch type who really makes me wonder which Chargers’ or Raiders’ scout brought this player to Dorsey’s attention. Yes, he is six two and has speed. He can fly to to the ball as a hybrid safety/corner, but, he is very inconsistent in field awareness and a slew of missed or broken tackles.

    • berttheclock

      But, he is a Tommy Trojan.

    • Roswell Incident

      ST player?

      • berttheclock

        Toub can only have a few. He is not a good enough tackler for solid ST play.

  • berttheclock

    This wraps up a long draft season. Now, on to the selection of the UDFAs. However, I must say something about my true thoughts concerning this draft and I will only say one time. I have been a good team player and have kept my criticism of some of the moves by Dorsey to myself. Now, that said, I do like some of his picks, but, not all of them. When, the Chiefs just missed going forward in the playoffs, I never thought it was the fault of Alex Smith. I felt that critical injuries had hurt the team to the point where we did not have a great pass rush and were not able to stop strong running attacks. In addition, our O-line was pushed backwards by the Steelers and the Pats.. However, we were so close to going forward. Therefore, I wanted to see the offensive line strengthened, the defensive front toughened, new additions to the LB corps and more quality on both the corners and the slot. I thought Dorsey would pick up more help in the RB area, as well.

    That said, I really do not think trading up for the QBOTF and giving away several picks to do so were in the best interest of the Chiefs. But, the Alex Smith haters have prevailed and all are gloriously yelling “Yippee” and giving Huzzahs to Dorsey. I really feel Dorsey listened to Andy Reid and went into a panic mode. I, also, feel he could have used the picks to really fix the major problems I cite above. However, he did not and I will have to live with the results.

    I really feel he could have done so much better than he did. But, all of that said, I will remain quiet and just stay with backing the team as best I can even though I know in my heart of hearts that Andy Reid will still mess up royally calling plays and end up with his normal “Mea Culpas” to the point that the Eagles’ fans who kept saying, “You’ll never win it all with Andy” will be proven correct.

    Damn it all. We were that close.

    • Merlin

      This is very much a draft for the future, not next year. I think you are being too pessimistic. I don’t see this as a panic move. I see this as an ultra-confident move. Is it warranted? Time will tell. .

      • freshmeat62

        Unfortunately, for some of us, they can’t keep drafting for the future. I’m 72. I was 25 when the Chiefs won SBIV. That’s a freaking lifetime of waiting till next year. I was thinking last nite, that if Mahomes makes it as the Chiefs QBOTF, it’s a pretty good chance he will be the last QB I see playing for the Chiefs. That’s rather sobering! So w/ that, I’m going to get a beer.

        • tm1946

          You old geezers (I am only 70), worry to much. We have Mr Dorsey and Reid + Alex Smith and …. some other guys who will do more than they have ever done in past years…. think you are not appreciating what we have here. WE actually took 10 draft picks, added the 1st for next year….for this bunch of guys.

          • I agree with this statement in the bottom line analysis. Yes, I wanted at least one OL but look, our OL was #14 ranked(PFF) and it should improve. It has experience for depth for example, Fulton and Reid and they are both familiar totally with the playbook and have been Chiefs starters. That is goodness. Logan in the middle solves the Poe loss, again my appraisal, and we still have youth behind that plus additions. I am good on the front 3 as such.
            So for me? Hunt is getting half the snaps right away, Ware and he mix it up for the opponents and keep fresh. We have the Wrs already, adding 1.

          • tm1946

            I am betting you will not see any more than a play or two before the 5th game. These kids are not ready, way to many experts say this is a futures draft…. might not like it but betting they are closer to right than the sunshine, always hoping for the best to happen.

          • I’ll take that bet vis a vis Hunt. I agree with the other 3, who will get S/T times. I think the LB will begin to get snaps if they like what they see. DE? he is a monster and I think they will fit him to snaps by the midpoint. WR? Nah. We didn’t draft Mahomes for 2017.

      • tm1946

        Not so sure, more talking heads are saying – no impact player, as in not one. We will send out the 2016 squad and hope the walking wounded are healed and game ready…. isn’t that asking a lot?

        I understand the QBOTF but to say our 2016 squad is so strong we do not need a starting RB but RB by committee, Ford is a stud, and the CB opposite Peters better be something better than last years, but the same guy. Then there is Harris at TE. And MLB…. if DJ is not himself from 2015…. sort of screwed.

        Time will tell but for whom the bell tolls is more relevant.

        • Laurels and limitations

          RW and DJA both came on strong last season, and with both DJ56 as well as JML the ILB corp. is not in that bad of shape. Quite to the contrary, it might be on the rise as long as the three young guys continue to develop. If Logan is half the player he is touted to be the d-line should actually be able to do their job this year- especially if all the young guns continue to show up. I gotta disagree about the impact player statement also, Hunt and TK could be players that absolutely take the competition by storm THIS season. On the flip-side, the rest of the players I do see as future guys but what a future they might create. PMII could very well prove to be the guy for the foreseeable future and how many time have we all lamented the New England situation where Bellichic and Brady are constant staples, the glue, of the organization. KC might very well have that now in Reid and Mahomes.

          As for the talking heads, not a single one of those hacks had any inclination as to how the draft was going to sort out. Their yays and nays are about a meaningless as all of their mock drafts. Nobody, and I mean nobody can grade a draft until the players either develop or fail to do so and that takes years.

          • tm1946

            Dead on…. so why are we here?

          • Laurels and limitations

            gluttons for punishment?

          • Roswell Incident

            Our priorities are out of whack and we either don’t have enough else to do or what else we have to do isn’t highly motivating?

          • mostly the Chiefs are getting a “B” due to the trade up in the first round and the loss of the 1 pick in 2018. Otherwise, I am reading some very positive comments, varied and various.

            HUNT IS THE STARTER in my view. He will be an IMPACT player out of the gate.

            Logan will be an improvement over Poe, period. Poe played at just over 50% of his value of the previous year in 2016. His money and the risk due to his back was absolutely not worth it. The remaining exposure? Well, Howard is gone. but we still have guys that can get into the rotation of the front 3. Missing component? Again it is the good fit for a NT #2. I think you are going to see contributions this season from TK and McQuay Both and of course Hunt but the look is to 2018 and beyond. Like Bert I had my view of the draft which obviously was not shared by Dorsey, though I cannot see it as a flop, I see it as a very good draft with high ceilings & btw: Maybe we have a guy to go trade for Kendricks though now I think that is not even being considered. I do like Bert’s view on this.

        • We have a LB. He may or may not help in 2017. I think he is a talent and with a weight pgm he will put on a few pounds and be one of the quickest hard hitting LBs in the NFL(or Dorsey completely mis-picked him).

          Hunt will start and he is very good. breaks tackles big time and doesn’t fumble(1 in 885 carries). He is a great fit for the KC offense. We won’t look back. He probably makes West a tradeable commodity.

          Now that said, reading about mcQuay, he has all the speed needed to be a safety or CB in the NFL and is a good athlete. it is suggested and I am reading more on this today, that his ability would encompass packages with Sutton’s defense, into the corner or slot more likely, so the Chiefs may be using him to special purpose, move him to the slot, but he can play outside too. He needs coaching up. He comes from an NFL Pedigree. His grandfather was an RB in the NFL, his demise was due to a heart attack at age 45. He did the trojans good in 2016, all-Pac-12 Hon. mention, with 50 tackles, 4 for a loss, broke up 6 and intercepted 2, though he did miss 3 games.

          Zierline wrote: “….McQuay isn’t an easy player to slot. He has the athleticism, ball skills
          and speed to play the high safety role, but his inconsistent field
          awareness is a concern. McQuay’s issues with missed and broken tackles
          open concerns about playing him near the line of scrimmage. If he tests
          well, teams may see McQuay has a hybrid corner/safety….”.

          Now that fits Sutton’s style and he matches what Dorsey looks for: 6’2″. Look at it this way: He will get his shot in the slot and can match up with TEs. That is a plus, can still can add some muscle weight an be fine at 185-188. He will get play right away on S/T for Dave Toub. I can see him working into the slot and getting time presuming his weakness in the awareness problem are coached out of him. He may get a lot more snaps as the season progresses, I understand he is very coachable.

    • freshmeat62

      I was going to wait until tomorrow to do this, but since you’ve primed the pump…

      Ditto!

      30 minutes before Shaun whats-his-name on NFL stated he thought the Chiefs had one of the worst drafts, I was pretty much thinking the same. I don’t think they did anything to improve themselves for a SB run next year. Oakland improved their secondary, but other than that I’m not that impressed w/ the other AFC West teams drafts either. So maybe we lucked out a little there.

      I’m glad they got Mahomes. I’ve always liked him best of all the QBs. I was hoping though that if they did get him it would be a 2nd rd. He’s not going to help at all this next year. I think 2 1st rd and a 3rd rd was too much for someone that is a project.

      Hopefully Kpassagnon can be this years Chris Jones and help the defense. While Hunt may turn into a decent RB, I don’t see him as the type that will make us forget Jamal Charles. The rest of the draft picks I don’t see any that make the Chiefs better.

      I too wanted to see LB’s and o-line depth, a CB, and a TE.

      Our linebackers scare me to death. We are counting on DJ and Houston coming back to the level they were 3-4 years ago. If they don’t then this team doesn’t stand the proverbial snowballs chance. Hali cant put a rush on by himself. And ‘F’ix ‘O’r ‘R’epair ‘D’aily, I don’t even want to talk about. Last year w/o Houston the Chiefs went into the bend don’t break mode of defense. But that isn’t going to win for this team. W/ their offense being average at best, they need a dominate defense.

      I think the d-line, barring the injuries they had last year is probably pretty good. The secondary I think is probably OK, but I would like to have seen another CB, for insurance if nothing else.

      W/ those 10 draft picks they started out w/ Thursday nite, I was expecting a lot more than what they got. W/ the tough schedule they have this year, I don’t see a SB run. If I had to predict right now I’d say 8-8,maybe 9-7 at best…but no playoffs.

      Very disappointed!

      • tm1946

        Reid is good for 10 wins most years, he figured that out…. here and in Philly. I will stick with that prediction… once we get to the playoffs (if raiders do not run us out of the playoffs) we get our butts kicked by legit playoff teams…. but all is good, we have a resident genius GM and Guru HC.

  • freshmeat62

    Stevie T., DT, from USC just went to TB.

    I’m heartbroken!

    • berttheclock

      Dorsey just took the wrong Tommy Trojan.

  • Laurels and limitations

    reading a lot of negativity concerning this year’s draft class, and while I can understand that straying from the norm causes some concern- the norm is a ceiling that must be transcended. JARD understands this, and that is why they drafted for the future instead of the immediate. The norm was already in place, Reid can trot out the exact same team as last year and we can expect similar results= close but no cigar.

  • Delaware Chief

    My first impression of the draft,without studying each pick to a great extent,is that the picks were somewhat questionable. If JARD feels that Maholmes is the man,then I am all for it. But the other picks were very iffy. They are certainly players with a lot of potential,but did they move the needle for next year,not so sure about that. The Chiefs were very close to going all the way last year and I don’t feel that they addressed the needs especially improving at stopping the run and even blocking better up front to get the running game going better. Time will tell,but right now I am a little down on this draft