Chiefs Losing Trend Compounds Fan’s Frustrations

 

 

 

The Kansas City Chiefs were good hosts to the Buffalo Bills on Sunday, and served up a healthy helping of triumph. Again. K.C. is now 1-and-5 in their past 6 games after beginning the season at 5-and-0.

 

While the defense only allowed 16 points to a Bills team that appeared to be hitting on many cylinders, the offense continued their woeful ways as witnessed by the stat line for QB Alex Smith: 23-of-36 for 199 yards with 1TD and 1 INT… a very key INT with the offense driving for the go ahead TD with time winding down in the 4th quarter. Add a couple of sacks of Smith for negative -18 yards, open receivers that Alex Smith missed and throws that were off target completely… and you have a renewed QB controversy with Chiefs fans across the nation calling for Smith’s head… but more, calling for a change at QB with hopes that the team will be inserting this year’s first round pick, the strong-arm QB Patrick Mahomes II.

 

A bit of irony to this loss is that the Chiefs traded away the 27 pick in the 2017 draft to the Bills for the rights to the 10th overall pick where they took Mahomes, while the Bills took CB Tre’Davious White, who intercepted the pass at the end of this game. But Chiefs fans are not interested in irony at the moment… they want to know why the offense is so abysmal?

 

The Chiefs have no answers for why this offense is looking increasingly worse:

– At the beginning of the game Alex Smith threw long to Tyreek Hill which landed out of bounds at the 50 yard line, while Hill was running straight down the numbers. Still, he missed him by a country mile.

– The pass to Albert Wilson AND Tyreek Hill who were both standing in the same spot in the left flat was Keystone Cops all over again, but not very entertaining. Certainly not a lol moment.

– 2-of-13 on third down conversions (a 15% efficiency rate).

– A motion penalty on Center Mitch Morse, of all people (I’m still not sure how that’s possible).

  

 

An even bigger problem for the Chiefs was their lack of a running game. Alex Smith was their leading rusher with 35 yards. The team had a total of 55 yards rushing. I mentioned yesterday that the Chiefs would need to mix up their play calling and that rarely happened. They called a running play on 1st Down, 3-of-the-first-4 times they touched the ball. All 3-and-outs. In fact, the Chiefs seven drives of first half looked like this:

 

  1. 3-and-out
  2. 3-and-out
  3. 3-and-out
  4. 3-and-out
  5. 3-and-out
  6. 5-plays-and-a-FG
  7. 1-play-kneel-down

 

That’s right, five 3-and-outs in a row to start the game. Predictability is becoming Andy Reid religion. Many Chiefs fans are also crying foul on their kneel down at the end of the half too. Why, when you have the fastest man in football — Tyreek Hill — who previously scored on a “long pass” (actually it was more of a long run than a long pass) now known as a “Hill-Mary” against the Cowboys… why would you not give him a shot again?

 

That’s just another, in the many mind-numbing questions facing this offense.

 

The “Start Patrick Mahomes Now” Bandwagon

So, why not give Patrick Mahomes a shot? He certainly must be better than this. Right? Not if you listen to ex-Chief and brother of Mitchel Schwartz, Geoff,

 

 

 

 

Geoff points out the real snag in the “Start Mahomes Now” push… the Chiefs are still leading the division. Now, in my mind, that may be a good reason to go to Mahomes… but I’m sure this Schwartz is right when it comes to sharing insight into how the coaching staff feel about a change at QB right now. Then, Reid said this after the game:

 

 

 

 

I don’t want to give the impression that if the Chiefs changed QBs then all their offensive woes would be over. Far from it. The blocking up front has not only had trouble opening holes for RB Kareem Hunt but Alex Smith has gone a long time… since I can’t remember when… since his jersey was kept clean.

 

There’s just no getting around the fact that you can not have your QB hurdling defensive players to get to the first down markers on a regular basis. Especially at your own 15 yards line. I can understand a goal line leap… but when your QB is your leading running back for the game, there’s big trouble in little China.

 

The problems with the Chiefs start at the top. Clark Hunt punted on John Dorsey and went for a five-yard gain (a 5-year contract) with head coach Andy Reid. Why is that important? Because he now has no immediate out with Reid. Are you going to fire a guy who you just gave $7.5M? Now, I’m not saying it’s time to do that, but if the team continues this trend….

 

So, why even talk about going a different direction than Andy Reid?

 

 

 

While Nick Jacobs makes some important points about what is ailing the Chiefs, I don’t think the organization knows what accountability looks like.

 

 

 

A lot of fans will be focusing their attention on the “Start Mahomes Now” movement, but there are other aspects to the offense that needs addressing. Unless Andy Reid and his staff come up with real solutions and real accountability… you can expect nothing to change.

 

If nothing changes, everything gets worse. That was apparent in this loss. The offense which has reportedly been addressing their issues since the Bye Week… has gotten worse, not better.

 

Sure, K Harrison Butker broke Pete Stoyanovich’s record in this game and has now made 23 straight FG attempts for the Chiefs all-time record. Sure, ILB Reggie Ragland had an excellent game vs his old team leading all Chiefs with 9 tackles including 3 tackles for loss. Plus, it looks like he’ll be a star for the Chiefs one day. The defense also held the Bills to 16 points, well below the Chiefs 22 points per game allowed average prior to the game. However, none of that will console a fan base hoping for so much more from what looks like a top ten talented offensive roster. WR Tyreek Hill and TE Travis Kelce and RB Kareem Hunt… had 89 yards receiving… combined. It goes without saying, that’s not maximizing your talent! 

 

I’m personally unhappy with Andy Reid’s post game answers. Concerned, is another word. Consider this post-game conversation:

 

Reporter: Just like in the fourth quarter there wasn’t a lot of hurry up, there was a lot of going back to the huddles.

Andy Reid: “What was the score?

Reporter: 16-10. 

Andy Reid: “Yeah you get a touchdown you’re right there. We had plenty of time. When was the interception? You look at the interception there was plenty of time of on the clock, that wasn’t the problem.”

 

“When was the interception?” ??? What kind of response was that from Reid? Was he really that… unaware? Fans have been saying this, “That something’s wrong with QB Alex Smith”… but I think there’s something off about Andy Reid. I can’t say I disagree with friend and writer, Stacy D. Smith,

 

 

 

 

AFC West: A Division Up For Grabs

Both of the Los Angeles Chargers and the Oakland Raiders have 5-and-6 records which puts them one game in back of the Chiefs. The Chargers face the Browns, Redskins, Jets and Raiders with a head-to-head game vs. the Chiefs. The Raiders face the Giants, Cowboys, Eagles and Chargers and they also have a head-to-head against the Chiefs. With games against both of their AFC West foes in the next five weeks, the division is wide open.

 

What comes next, is anyone’s clue. Next Sunday the Chiefs head back to MetLife Stadium in NY to face the Jets. The Jets scored 27 points against the Carolina Panthers yesterday who scored 35 points against their defense. What looked like an easy “W” on the calendar for K.C. at the beginning of the season, now looks like tough game… and the final results for this season are wide open.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • HOMER!! Dave

    There wasn’t anything positive about yesterday’s performance by the offense. The word abysmal is not damming enough. Reid, Smith, the O-line all need to own up to some of the credit but more and more tape is coming out showing Smith missing opportunities- as in multiple opportunities for the umpteenth week in a row. I’m tired of Reid’s play-calling also, but let’s give fair credit to all those involved.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      An interesting note about play-calling. Most coaches will tell you that screens are not in their offense to gain a bunch of yards, but to keep the defense honest. If the defense is cheating their coverages, selling out to stop the run, blitzing too much, or only concentrating on a couple of threats, the screen game can burn them. When the screen game is the most effective part of your offense, it tells you that the defense is constantly playing a ‘bad’ scheme and getting away with it. You can generally only get away with that as a DC if you know that a QB won’t target anybody outside his first couple reads.

      • tm1946

        Preaching to the choir… could you send this by email to One Arrowhead?

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      The first half offense was beyond abysmal. The opening drive of the second half was a nice drive. There was some good stuff happening later in the second half but we became too one dimensional. Out routes and screens, Alex was staring down one read and not even looking elsewhere.
      The O-line was weak, Fisher whiffed a bunch.

      • HOMER!! Dave

        Fisher looked bad yesterday and his left-side mate Fulton wasn’t much better. To be honest though, I didn’t pay as much attention to them as I did Smith.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Schwartz is one of the worst follows on twitter. I used to like his tweets because they were informative but the guy acts like all-seeing, knowing everything about every little thing. He’s a blowhard.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      Very knowledgeable guy. I learn from his stuff, but he’s definitely got a bit of an ego.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Hehe, every time someone brings up how well Buttkicker and Colquit are doing the first thing that comes to mind is WHY they are both having to kick so much.

    • tm1946

      Check back on the Nick the knife days…. all we had were kicking specialists and a lot of losing games. We had years when the current Browns would have been a step up.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      It would have been really nice if Butker would have had about 3 more FG’s yesterday!

  • Chiefly Bacon

    For anyone who’s wanting to judge Reid’s scheme over Smith’s execution of that scheme, I highly recommend Seth Keysor’s piece. Keysor has been a Smith apologist in the past, and says as much in his article. Nobody has watched more tape than Seth on Smith, except maybe Andy Reid. See what he has to say. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/11/26/16702708/what-the-chiefs-should-do-with-alex-smith-and-patrick-mahomes

    • tm1946

      Might be a case of we (fans) are about done with this edition of the Chiefs. Reid is not going to change and staying around for years to come, so…. who is next? Sutton, his bad defense has limited bad team from burying us 69-0…..Clark Hunt is going no where…. Veach just go off the bus…. sort of leaves Alex – the odd man out. I am not saying Alex is not to blame or headed for the HOF but he pretty much just does what Reid says… sort of a puppet?

      • Chiefly Bacon

        Thing is, Reid is scheming up plays that get guys open. Smith is not taking advantage. I understand Reid’s loyalty to Smith, given his past accomplishments, but at some point you have to decide your QB is not good enough and try something else.

        • HOMER!! Dave

          ^THIS^, so much ^this^. More and more plays are being shown to the public (read: us) via All-22 and other such sites every single week. Alex Smith can still be defended, but it takes a lot more work in order to do so.

        • ladner morse

          On good NFL teams, they only change QBs… about as often as you change a car air filter. In college, they change QBs… like seasonal clothing. In high school… like they change underwear.

          Point is, Reid kept a guy like horrendous OG Mike McGlynn way longer than anyone else believed possible so, you know he’s going to be even more stoic and slow to act when it comes to changing QBs.

          Now, I’m not saying that he shouldn’t change QBs right now… or that I’m not in favor of doing so… I just think we need to be realistic about what’s going to happen moving forward. The expectations for the Chiefs to win each week is enough to drive me crazy… much less adding onto those expectation that they should change QBs. Just ends up being very disappointing.

          Keeping our perspective, and finger on the pulse of how the fans of our team are feeling, outweighs my own desire to have the team change… generally speaking.

  • tm1946

    Sounds like Clark Hunt bought into the snake oil Reid has been selling year after year – 10 wins and sometimes a little extra in the playoffs once in a while.

    Need to apologize, wife got on me…apparently, I have complained about the wrong direction Dorsey had been taking the Chiefs since the Ford not starting/Hali done but getting another contract time period. Also I thought the Chiefs would not be very good this year with a bad draft/no money/no free agents even after the firing of Dorsey…. then I got caught up in the 5 wins and young Hunt’s running….Sorry guys, lost my focus and with the aid of my wife’s “rolling eyes”… the Chiefs are just about where I thought they should be.

    Guess I should be content/happy but it does not feel that way.

  • freshmeat62

    I don’t start Mahomes, nor do I replace Smith w/ him during a game, unless Smith gets hurt. QB isn’t the problem…normally. Although yesterday Smith was pretty bad, and I’m not counting the obvious screwups where Hill and Wilson were in the same spot, and where Hill ran straight and Smith threw to the sideline.

    This team has bigger problems, and I think most of it has to do w/ coaching. First off they’re playing w/ no emotion. It’s ‘hoo hum’, go thru the motions, and then the next play, go thru the motions. When is the last time that o-line pushed the opposing defense backwards? I can’t remember. It’s like the opposing coaches have been able to figure out how to adjust and stop the Chiefs, but Reid and company are unable to do the same.

    Yesterday Reid said he wanted to use Hunt more in the running game. That would be nice, but what the heck is Hunt suppose to do when there is no hole, but a mass of tangled bodies strewn where he’s suppose to run. The first few games this year they made some holes, but now they just get pushed around. Are they just too weak? is it the blocking schemes? do they just not give a damn? Why can’t they adjust?

    I know a lot of people are high on Toub as a possible head coach, but when is he going to figure out it doesn’t pay to try and return a kickoff that is into the endzone. How many times has the returner gotten past the 25? Not many! Seldom do they make it even to the 20. And then about half of those have a penalty that moves the ball back to somewhere around the 10 yard line.

    Noticed Kpass playing a lot yesterday. He did pressure a couple of times, but he looks pretty gangly (sp check says that’s not a word) and unsteady on his feet. I think he needs to put on a few LB’s of meat this off season, but then this whole team need to do that. They just look weak!

    Peters looked like he got the message that he needs to try and tackle as I saw him actually try to stick his head in and stop a runner a couple of times. But then he gives up a TD, and look rather lackadaisical when he missed on an interception.

    This whole team is out of sync. And now, and for the next 5 years, Reid is going to getting a lot more of that money that grandpa Hunt made in the oil business years ago.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      You hit the nail on the head aa bunch of times. The O-line looks weak, especially Fisher. Our “big” guys are getting pushed around by LBs. I do think that’s OL coaching, we’ve been this way for 5 years.
      It’s hard to run the ball when the defense stacks the box. The entire first half, the Bills had 6-8 guys either stuffing the run or pressuring Smith. I’m not sure if that’s been happening every game but Reid needs to plan around that. Bert mentions play action, and that would help even though Smith isn’t the best play action QB, IMO.
      I’ve been thinking the same thing on KO returns, we almost never get to the 25. That’s costing us yards every time another team kicks to us. And what about our punt returns. Hill never has room to maneuver after the catch, the blocking is sub par.
      After rewatching some of the game this morning, I believe if Peters would have been half a second quicker, he would have had the int. I think he laid off to not get called for pass interference. On the TD, Peters just got out ran, he isn’t that fast comparatively.

      • mnelson52

        You mentioned STs. Bills had 124 return yds. to KCs 0. excluding kickoffs (pretty much difference in the game). Toub has been good every year for a long time, so I doubt every team in the league suddenly figured him out. That just leaves the lack of talent on the field as the problem.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      If you watch most teams, you’ll see that the attitude comes from the QB and works it way down. Bellichek doesn’t chew WRs out Brady does. Homgren doesn’t chew WRs out, Rogers does. Andy Reid had a chance to talk to the entire offense at half-time and lit enough of a fire under them to get them to go out and put together a scoring drive. Smith has that opportunity every time they go into the huddle. Bottom line, Smith doesn’t trust his WRs or OL, and the feeling has become mutual. OL never knows where Smith is going to be, which makes blocking tough, WRs never know where the ball is going to be. I won’t say that Smith isn’t trying, dude puts his body on the line, but Smith is not getting better at the most important thing QBs do: passing.

  • berttheclock

    Yes, I read Seth Kysor’s breakdown. However, what he fails to mention is the lack of motion called by Andy Reid, he fails to mention the lack of play action called by Andy Reid. Plus, he puts far too much emphasis of the 2015 game between LSU on the road at Texas Tech. He raved about the great play by Mahomes II. Geez, he threw 4, count ’em 4 TD passes. But, two of those came in the garbage time 2nd half when LSU was running away with the game. They put up 56 points to TT’s only 28. He fails to mention the fact Mahomes II had to throw the ball 56 times and only completed 28. He fails to mention the fact the average yards per pass was only 6.6 whereas the LSU QB threw for an average of much closer to 10 yards. He did throw one INT. His favorite target was Jakeem Grant, a small, but, very fast wide out and returner. I had wanted Dorsey to draft him, but, Dorsey opted to take White ahead of him in the 2016 NFL draft. Grant will, probably, face the Chiefs when Miami comes to Arrowhead. He has not done much as a receiver for them, but, he has been a very effective returner with one TD to his credit.

    Geez, if you are trying to run the ball against defenses which are stacking the box against you, you might need a far better offensive line to open holes for you. Kysor puts no blame on the O-line of the Chiefs. Consider this, yesterday, the Chiefs only ran for 55 yards, 35 of which were by Alex Smith. The Bills ran for 104 yards with their QB running for only 27. Yet, many say the defense of the Chiefs played very well. Yes, the D did stop Buffalo several times early in the game, but, the Bills kept getting better field position each and every time to the point, finally, they were close enough for Taylor to hit a crossing TD.

    As to being able to run the ball better, perhaps, the man few KC fans wanted to see come to KC because he might be a problem in the locker room was Richie Igconito, who is a beast at LOG. Do the Chiefs have such on the team to open holes?

    I said it after the inept draft and before the season began. I only went from predicting the Chiefs to go 7-9 to a timid view of them eeking out a possible 9-7 season. I still had absolutely no faith in their advancing very far in the playoffs and I still hold to that position. With Andy Reid and Sutton in charge, this team will go nowhere but down.

  • PaulFromNorthMo

    There were some good things in this game, but almost all on the defensive side. Terrance Mitchell had a good game at RCB, that kinda raises the question why he was ever replaced with Acker/Gaines. I guess if we are only keeping one of the three for next year, we have an answer.
    The ILBs aren’t in as dire straights as we have been thinking. Ragland is really coming on, what I see wrong there is he is spending too much time off the field. Sutton’s sub sets are still hurting us, but if Ragland and KPL continue to improve we should be able to stay in our base D more.
    Logan had a pretty good game, but we still need improvements on the DL. Jenkins doesn’t show much and RNR is kinda hit and miss.
    I’m not at all impressed with Murray, at this point we may need more depth at safety than corner for next year.
    I don’t know what to make of the O-line, I do know it’s asking a lot of 5 players to block 6 defenders. Fisher is not an above average LT, but with the deal he got from Dorsey, he isn’t going anywhere.
    Reid, at least from what I have read and heard, likes to start each game with so many scripted plays. I think the rest of the league has figured out his script. On offense, we are way too predictable at the beginning of games.
    Alex Smith missing open receivers isn’t anything new. We, or maybe just I, have been talking about his lack of field vision for the past two seasons. It’s just who and what he is.

  • drwillez37

    A good way to have accountability is having your job hang in the balance. But that doesn’t seem to matter to AS11 but I said this at the beginning of the season that no one in the organization was expecting the start from Smith and took Mahomes because of the lose to the Steelers in the post season. Everyone knew AS11 is done after this season and the team wasn’t drafting fpr 2017 they drafted fpr 2018. The year this team WILL become St.Patrick’s.. (because he is our savior)

  • HOMER!! Dave

    This is definitely on Reid….he’s letting defenses stack up in the box but truth be told: Stacking up the box is easy when there is no need to protect against the deep threat.

    Then and now.Kareem Hunt's Week 1 and Week 12 #NextGenStats carry charts pic.twitter.com/ZDOIY6Znhq— Matt Harmon (@MattHarmon_BYB) November 27, 2017

    • Jeff Morton

      We don’t get him outside anymore. Not sure why.

      • HOMER!! Dave

        I kinda thought that was happening more and more through the year but I just figured that maybe Hunt was a North/South runner that was not fast enough to get to the edge. I hope I’m wrong.

      • tm1946

        Had to figure DC’s would load the box to stop the run and let Alex’s arm win games. Then you have Reid running most stuff horizontally instead of down field (is Kelce still involved). Our OL and passing game stink and for whatever reason is not getting fixed against some of the worst teams in the league… what do you think will happen against better teams or AFC West teams looking toward the playoffs…. we get our butts kicked but keep to retain the services of Reid for several years.

    • HOMER!! Dave

      huh, the chart didn’t show…lemme see here. Huh, can’t get it to work. If you can’t see and/or to lazy to follow the link don’t @me, lol.

    • drwillez37

      It is Reid 110% he’s the reason the team plays with no emotion and no heart. Our teams play is a biproduct of his bad coaching. I swear that play sheet has only names of restaurants and then a line of appetizers then a line of entrées and all he’s doing is weaving what would be his ultimate meals.

      • HOMER!! Dave

        lol, but I’m not buying all that. I and many, many, many others have seen a lot of missed opportunities left on the field, and this dates back multiple seasons. Reid is exasperating, but I also think he plays to his player’s strengths, and that Smith doesn’t have that many strengths to exploit.

  • Jeff Morton

    Unless something changes (play calling duties, OC, QB…), and I don’t think it will, this team should lose out. I’m not sure they could beat the Browns. Seriously.

    • HOMER!! Dave

      KC can beat the Browns, they’ll sit everybody but the Scout team and coaches. Bray will feast.

      • tm1946

        Joking asside, I honestly believe it would be hard to find a team in the NFL and most of the major college teams who could not stop the Chiefs offensive attack…. it is that bad. Now we could win 9 – 6 games but this offense is lost.

        • HOMER!! Dave

          Not sure that the “offense is lost”, but I DO believe a key cog is misaligned and the trouble rolls downhill from there.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Nice little article from PFF. Leave a lot of stuff out, but hits on some of the particulars. MOAR STATS!!!

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-whats-wrong-with-the-kansas-city-chiefs-offense

    • Chiefly Bacon

      The $ quote: “Smith hasn’t been the only problem, but he has been by far the biggest, and unless he picks up his play back to that early part of the year, the Chiefs are in deep trouble.” Funny how the people who watch the most film all come away thinking that Smith is a major part of the problem. 😉

      • HOMER!! Dave

        they almost, to a person, agree that Smith is a major problem.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    So, Reid employs a WCO that predominately works to stretch defenses out horizontally (even though the vertical game was working so well for 3-4 games early on this season). The Bills, ran a ton of 5 effectively stretching the defense out FOR Reid/Smith and they STILL couldn’t find a hole.

    Reid noted the Bills playing predominantly in their nickel package, regardless of the #Chiefs' personnel, and they were bringing an extra guy in the box. Said they have to execute and beat it.— BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) November 27, 2017

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      The Chiefs ned to execute and beat the opponents D. Wow, novel idea.

      • HOMER!! Dave

        I know I was aghast with the complexity of the scenario.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Hehe….BOOOOOO!!!!!!!

    Reid: "Alex is my guy."— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) November 27, 2017

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Anything else would be a total surprise. I’m still on the pony cart that says play Smith the rest of the year.

      • HOMER!! Dave

        not disagreeing with that. Yesterday I was resolute that Smith should play out the year. Today I am worried that Smith will pass on his bad habits to Mahomes. How’s that for being flippy-floppy?

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          With those two, I see two totally and distinctly different types of play. I don’t think one could play like the other, no matter how they tried. That’s why I think we should finish this year with Smith, I can see major changes to everything in 2018.

          • HOMER!! Dave

            I’m betting that in 2018 the Kc offense will not be comparable to 2013-2017 in hardly any manner. I just have high hope it’s for the better.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Amen to that!

    • tm1946

      Another un-answerable question…. one for the ages…. why?

      • PaulFromNorthMo

        If Mahomes goes in and lights the world on fire, Reid has to admit he was wrong on staying with Alex. If Mahomes goes in and flops, Reid has to admit he was wrong for making a change. No win situation.

      • HOMER!! Dave

        the hellifIknow.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    I’ve seen a number of people complaining about the lack of motion. It’s true, Chiefs are much more successful when they use motion. Here’s why: Chiefs use motion to identify coverage schemes against man defense. They use little to no motion against zone defenses, because it doesn’t trigger adjustments by the opposing D. Basically Chiefs succeed when they use more motion, because they only use more motion against man defenses. The offense, this year, has been great against man defense, but terrible against zone. Understand that the problem isn’t lack of motion, it’s playing a zone defense.

    • Derek

      Thank you I’ve been saying this since we couldn’t move the ball in the fourth quarter against the Raiders and that has continued to be the case week in and week out and when a bad defense like Dallas has no problem running zone against us it is on the qb not the coach to make the decision to beat it. When Mahomes is in fact our savior and we are a top 5 offense in 2019 for the entire season and not just for 4 games a year, then you can all delete your negative accounts and blind protection of the qb. When mahomes makes our online look competent you will all owe every lineman an apology. Still though, fire Andy Heck 100% behind and a new guy in for Bob Sutton

      • HOMER!! Dave

        Not disagreeing one bit about Heck, he’s bad. I’m 50/50 on Sutton due to certain personnel.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Alex Smith's last 28 drives: 14 punts, 5 interceptions, 4 field goals, 1 TD #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/k7eGUvtHRp— Clay Wendler (@ClayWendler) November 27, 2017

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      That would be pretty impressive is he was the QB of the Browns.

      • HOMER!! Dave

        a very bad comparison as far as franchises, but the Browns likely would have benched Smith by now.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          Maybe not if they had won a game!

          • HOMER!! Dave

            lol, there is that.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    On the game-deciding INT, Alex threw it outside while Hill curled inside. CB had outside leverage on Hill and safety was moving towards Kelce. No idea why throw went outside. Also, Kelce is open immediately, should be good for 1st down. Really, really rough play for Alex. pic.twitter.com/TAMW3vyO7X— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) November 27, 2017

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Yeah, and Kelce know it immediately, he might have even scored on that play.

      • HOMER!! Dave

        Kelce was pissed on that play. When he throws his arms up it was all but written on the wall for me. Reid, Smith, Nagy- maybe the combination of all three is becoming malignant instead of benign.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          The play call was good enough, the decision on where to throw the ball was Smith’s alone, IMO. The safety was cheating toward Kelce just prior to the pass, but Kelce was behind the LB and I will take my chances every time with Kelce one on one against a safety. Smith had his mind made up pre-snap where he was going with that pass, and he was wrong.

          • HOMER!! Dave

            not denying that, that toss was on Smith alone. I was just thinking that maybe Kelce is getting fed up with the offense all-together.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            I was more under the impression he is fed up with not having the ball thrown his way when he is wide open. I’ve seen those reactions from him several times on unsuccessful plays. But he seems fine if the play works, even if it’s a teammate getting the ball.

          • HOMER!! Dave

            Good point, I had not taken that into consideration.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Andy Reid’s full quote when pressed about a potential QB change from Alex Smith to Patrick Mahomes. pic.twitter.com/hTcLqHm0Nx— Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) November 27, 2017

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Lol, Chief’s Kingdom today….

    I'm so glad the Chiefs have 3 home games left so they can lose tons of money and ticket sales— Chiefs_All_Day (@Chiefs_All_Day) November 27, 2017

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      That will all change after they beat the Jets next week.

      • tm1946

        Near as I can tell, there is not a single game left to play seem in the bag. Not sure if the team will even wear uniforms, might show up in blazers and pass out footballs or beach wear and just sit there… sort of like they have done recently.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Welp, looks like Tamba is trying to hold the fort together….

    pic.twitter.com/3QH3t3SLpa— HAGAKI 日本にチーフスファンは? (@PonGanFun) November 27, 2017

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Not a very impressive picture for the 8.5 mil we’re paying him.

      • HOMER!! Dave

        Not impressive? Alex Smith has flames coming off his shoes from fleeing a clean pocket, FLAMES!!, lol.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          OH, my bad, I thought that was smoke from thinking which yard marker to try to hit throwing the ball way.

          • HOMER!! Dave

            dammit, you keep throwing rain clouds on my silver linings, lol.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Hey, at least will still have a sense of humor!!! Not all is lost.

          • HOMER!! Dave

            That’s true, my friend, we must maintain our humor. Not much else we can rely on right now. Well, Ragland and Dirty Dan perhaps.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Well, I gotta take off, have a good day.

          • HOMER!! Dave

            see ya bub, but there goes my reason for being lazy. Have a good day.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Defenses have no respect for Alex. That makes it hard on the OL. I mean, look at this. pic.twitter.com/IYMq6uJhU8— Clay Wendler (@ClayWendler) November 27, 2017

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Yep, stuff the run and scare ol’ Alex Chickensmit into thinking he’s gonna get hit. Surefire way to beat the Chiefs.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Dammit, now Schwartz goes and makes perfect sense. It’s so much easier when I all I have to do is label the guy a blow hard and ignore him, lol..

    I've seen this mentioned often about Kelce's comments on Mahomes looking ridiculous in practice. Those are scout team reps. Do you know how many scout DL I've played against who'd be all pros if you watched practice but can't play in a game? https://t.co/ZyjOnyUFAE— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) November 27, 2017

    • tm1946

      ridiculous good or ridiculous bad?

      • HOMER!! Dave

        ridiculous “good”, but we have to remember it is all practice stuff. We know nothing until the live games hit.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    To the pit of Smithery! Dilly Dilly https://t.co/q6xKhYt6P3— Nick (@Njakey) November 27, 2017

    #Chiefs HC Andy Reid announced that Alex Smith will stay the starting QB vs. Jets in Week 13."I don't think they are going to play the way they have and I think they are going to figure it out. That locker room is full of talented players & a good coaching staff." –@3rd_Goal pic.twitter.com/gs6hkLK2tZ— SiriusXM NFL Radio (@SiriusXMNFL) November 27, 2017

  • HOMER!! Dave

    I’ve been waiting for this article since Schwartz mentioned it earlier today…it’s worth a look.

    https://www.sbnation.com/2017/11/27/16706030/kansas-city-chiefs-offense-alex-smith-pat-mahomes-kareem-hunt

    • HOMER!! Dave

      That said, GS seems to be at odds with himself in his own article. In one paragraph he will say that Kc needs a QB that will stay in the pocket and read defenses- then in another GS will point out that Smith is not trusting his pocket Then in another sentence GS will point out that PM2 is not a scrambling QB and that is a bad thing. Make up your mind GS.

      This wasn’t the only point, there were a few others. Thing is, GS is trying his best not to point fingers at anyone while saying what Kc needs to do in order to save the season but everything he points out is contradicted as to being possible in his article.

      Is Mahomes the answer? Hell if I know, but at this point I am completely done with Smith and want Mahomes to start. Even if that means deactivating Smith, and activating Bray as the number 2.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    wait, you mean Veach WASN’T the instigator in Dorsey drafting Mahomes!? I’m shocked, shocked I tell ya!

    p.s. this also means that Smith is Reid’s guy for just right now. Patience is a virtue.

    Texas Tech coach Kliff Kingsbury told me he didn't talk to John Dorsey once. https://t.co/h1gb4Y3s8D— Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) November 27, 2017

    • tm1946

      Dorsey had a rep of not talking to coaches about his dream players, he got the info from scouts or his own observations and that was it…. no need to talk to anyone about anything. How much Mahomes was Reid or Dorsey, I have no idea but bet more than a little cash… both had a hand in the wonderment of all things Mahomes and Alex Smith did not come into the equation…. proof? the last draft was about the distant future…. Mahomes sits, KPass get 3 -4 plays a game, and the rest, if they play at all, are on Spec. Teams…. losing games half way thru the season and not one damned draft pick is worth time on the field.

      • HOMER!! Dave

        everything we know about how ANY player in KC getting picked up is heresay. There is no proof, fact, or fiction. It’s all just something we talk about as if we know anything at all.

        • tm1946

          Actually more than a few talking heads have said Ford was a reach, was probably should have been a 3rd round pick and most “knowledgeable” people knew he was not a 1st for any reason but Dorsey had made up his mind who he wanted. Just saying a first year GM who drafts any kid out of college and doesn’t talk to college coaches will make mistakes… ones we cannot afford.

          • HOMER!! Dave

            Yeah, I can get that. Every GM out there makes mistakes though, BB in NE included.

            Truth be told, I was never too high on Dorsey in the 1st place. Reaches with the 1st rd. picks, contract extensions to over-the-hill players, etc, etc, Good riddance as far as I’m concerned.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Lilja, and undersung hero for KC, speaks about KC’s line.

    "They're certainly not helping matters. I think everything starts there and they set the tempo." – Ryan Lilja on the #Chiefs offensive line struggles.— 610 Sports Radio- KC (@610SportsKC) November 27, 2017

    • HOMER!! Dave

      and let’s be honest here, Lilja was a helluva lot better O-line than GS.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Andy Reid’s team has lost 5 of its last 6, looked beyond inept, collapsed into a bad division race, and Andy just keeps saying “We need to do a better job” while changing nothing. Am I in Philadelphia?— Mike Welch (@RealMikeWelch) November 27, 2017

  • HOMER!! Dave

    The Chiefs have waived TE Ross Travis— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) November 27, 2017

    • tm1946

      What a stretch…. he is another “project” player this team falls in love with… for some reason, they have not talked to me about.

      • HOMER!! Dave

        he’s been on the squad for a couple of years. He was a project that didn’t quite pan out.

        • tm1946

          If you are winning, with a loaded roster, a few all pro sprinkled here and there, you can waste roster spot on a project…. we do not really qualify as a dynasty.

          • HOMER!! Dave

            I get that, but I also think that the FO thought they had an intact roster in place so that they COULD go after a project or two. Welp, they were wrong, lol.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      Hallelujah!

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Hear that KC, “forward”, not backwards…..

    Success is based on your ability just to keep moving forward! https://t.co/izJETCNqIp #successtip #motivation— JJ Birden (@jjbirden) November 27, 2017

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  • S Holt

    Reid has no accountability. Smith has happy feet. O-line can’t block anyone. How many bubble screens can be called in one game? Why can’t the QB coach show Alex how to step up in pocket while keeping his eyes downfield? This team is hard to watch. Also, why aren’t players pissed off after the games? No emotion at all. That’s scary.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    I mean you can pick a side vs cover 2 you want to throw to. It doesn't matter they're both open. Buf taking away the flat daring Alex to beat them throwing down the boundary. pic.twitter.com/RUJN346aWW— Joe D (@pulseofdachiefs) November 28, 2017

    • Jeff Morton

      Ugh.