How Chiefs View Themselves: Deductions From The Draft and Practice Squad

Actions speak louder than words. This is especially true in the NFL, where tight-lipped teams fear giving their opponents even the smallest advantage. For fans, seeking insight into their franchise’s point of view, the draft and the practice squad offer much clearer pictures of Chiefs priorities than any mumbled platitudes from press conferences. Through a careful examination of Chiefs’ moves, we can get a pretty good guess of what they thought, before the draft, and what they think now.

Chiefs Draft Patrick Mahomes: While a variety of positions have been taken on this move, I’m not seeking to debate the wisdom of this choice, merely explain the reasoning behind it. Chiefs looked at Alex Smith and saw a QB who wasn’t worth a second contract. This is not as much a knock on Smith, as a statement about where the QB market is. QBs like Matt Stafford and Derrick Carr, who’ve been good, but haven’t won anything of significance, are netting huge deals, around $25M a year. Smith’s record, with the Chiefs, would have given him a lot of leverage in contract negotiations, especially if Chiefs didn’t have a viable option behind him, which they didn’t. Even if Chiefs had expected Smith to be as good as he has been, which nobody saw coming, they would have still had major reason for concern. Chiefs are near the bottom of the league in cap space and Smith, this year, is making $16.9M. He’s scheduled to make over $20M next year, and, on an extended contract, would like earn even more than that. Chiefs decided that they needed a viable starter behind Smith, and the only way to get one, in time to know whether they needed to extend Smith, was to trade up and get one this year.

Chiefs Draft Tanoh Kpassagnon: Chiefs fans weren’t just surprised by the spelling of this pick, they were a bit confused by it. Chiefs had already drafted a guy who wasn’t going to start this year, then turned around, and drafted another developmental prospect. What this pick reveals, is that Chiefs knew they had a pass rush problem. Quality edge rushers are hard to come by. If you look at the guys who get 10+ sacks a year, they’re almost all first round picks. Once the Chiefs had made the decision to draft Mahomes, they knew they wouldn’t be touching a polished pass rusher till 2019. Rather than settle for a guy who could be just ok now, they decided to gamble on Kpassagnon who has the physical traits to be something special, but needs some development. Physical freaks, like TK, tend to go in the top 15 picks, if they’re ready to play. Chiefs decided to go for a high risk/high reward investment over a safer investment in a Frank Zombo type player. Chiefs were basically going to either go pass rusher or QB in the first. From a salary cap standpoint, they made the judgment that Alex Smith was more likely to break the bank than Dee Ford.

Chiefs Draft Kareem Hunt: With their first two picks dedicated to guys who may not play right away, Chiefs needed to hit their third pick out of the park. Statistically, Smith plays much better when Chiefs run the ball more, so Dorsey selected Kareem Hunt. This was one of those rare picks where they were able to secure the best player available, at a position of need, who was also an instant starter. This was basically Chiefs lone “this year” pick. Maybe this shows confidence by the Chiefs in their depth (or perhaps arrogance), or maybe it shows that Chiefs didn’t really view this roster as a championship team. Either way, fans will question if Dorsey and company could have done more to win now.

Chiefs Draft Jehu Chesson: With Wilson a FA next year, and the loss of Maclin, Chiefs felt the need to invest a pick in a WR. Chesson offered a solid STs player from a West Coast Offense, who could be ready to step in, in case of emergency. This was mostly a pick for the future, with slight insurance for the present. Chiefs clearly felt good about their starting WRs, but wanted to add more depth.

Chiefs Draft Ukeme Eligwe: ILB was an obvious area of need for the Chiefs. Dorsey didn’t seem to place a high priority on the position though, as he never spent more than a 4th round pick on an ILB. This year was no exception, as Eligwe came in the 5th round. While he hasn’t seen the field, except on STs, Chiefs seem to think highly of him. It’ll be interesting to see, now that Veach has taken over, if Chiefs continue to draft ILBs in the bottom half of the draft, or if they’re willing to spend some serious capital to get more talent on the run defense.

Chiefs Draft Leon McQuay III: This was kind of a weird pick, as Chiefs initially tried him at CB and then shifted him back to safety. Perhaps scouts thought he could transition to CB, but coaches disagreed. Based on pre-draft evaluations, it seems like Chiefs reached on McQuay and this was a pick to fill a need. Since Chiefs looked stacked at S, before Eric Berry went down, I’m guessing that McQuay was supposed to turn into an outside CB. The fact that this really didn’t seem to be a good fit is concerning, because it makes you wonder if coaches and scouts weren’t on the same page. Perhaps this was one of the communication problems that Dorsey had. It wasn’t the first CB he’d drafted that the defensive coaches couldn’t find a spot for.

Practice Squad WRs: When evaluating the PS, it’s important to remember that these are also members of the scout team. Scout teams try to duplicate the opposing defense or offense that the Chiefs starters will face. While Chiefs are carrying 3 WRs right now, they’ve also been missing two starters. Many NFL teams run three and four WR sets most of the time, so Chiefs need enough WRs on the scout team to duplicate that. That being said, WR still seems to have been a major focus of the Chiefs this off-season, and the type of WRs Chiefs are pursing this year, is a bit different then in the past. Chiefs seem to be mostly interested in bigger WRs with good hands. This could be in preparation for Mahomes, or simply show that Chiefs feel they have greater needs for outside WRs than slot WRs. That makes sense, because Hill, DAT and Wilson are all good in the slot, if they need them there. Both of Chiefs starting outside WRs, right now, are only in their second year.

Practice Squad RB George Atkinson: Atkinson shows what Chiefs value in their bottom of the roster RBs: kick return ability. Atkinson is pretty much a slower Knile Davis, who might be slightly better as a RB. While fans may be concerned about Chiefs RB depth, Chiefs are evidently not that worried, as they are only carrying a single PS back, in Atkinson, who is mostly a KR or short yardage back.

Chiefs Practice Squad TE Orson Charles: Charles did double duty, in the off-season, as a TE and FB. He represents more of an emergency depth option than a serious investment in the position. Travis and Harris have been slow to develop, but Chiefs seem content to stick with them, for now. Don’t expect major changes at TE any time soon.

Chiefs Practice Squad OL: Chiefs have had two OL, at times, on the practice squad, but cut down to one to add CB Will Redmond. Damien Mama is the lone OL on the PS and plays OG or C. The fact that Chiefs are willing to roll with no OTs on the PS, shows they like their depth at T. Fisher has been ok, Schwartz is elite and Witzmann is a solid option to swing to either spot. Erving hasn’t looked great thus far, but Chiefs continue to develop him, and he has some upside. If Chiefs have to make a roster cut, later on, it could come from their OL group, but keeping extra bodies there is wise. NFL teams are desperate for any kind of help on the OL, and even Chiefs’ worst lineman, Jordan Devey, probably wouldn’t clear waivers right now.

Chiefs Practice Squad Secondary: Everyone knows Chiefs have problems in the secondary. So do they, as they are keeping two CBs, in Keith Reaser and Will Redmond. Both of those guys are smaller CBs, and might be better suited to play nickle than on the outside. If I had to put one outside, I’d put Redmond there. He’s a good coverage player with solid instincts. He’s a willing tackler, even if he doesn’t always have the lead in his shorts to bring guys down. He looks like this year’s candidate for the Marcus Cooper/Jamell Flemming/Terrance Mitchell treatment. Leon McQuay appears to be the lone safety on the PS, but Chiefs could also be giving him some looks at outside CB. Wherever they plan on playing him, they need to unleash the strength and conditioning coach on him first, dude tackles like Cairo Santos.

Chiefs Practice Squad DT Rickey Hatley: Chiefs unfortunately lost Daniel Ross right before they had to cut Roy Miller (good riddance). After that, they signed Cam Thomas to the main roster, and Rickey Hatley to the PS. Chiefs have shown an increased interest in bigger DL, because of Sutton’s two DL sets. They’re also searching for a permanent answer at NT after losing Poe and signing Logan as a stop-gap.

A few things about the team have come into focus. Chiefs could foresee some of their issues, like ILB, but others, like CB, have caught them by surprise. Being excited about the practice squad is usually a bad thing, because it means you don’t trust your starters. The one position I would say that Chiefs are still in denial about is TE. It’s clear to fans that the #2 and #3 options aren’t good enough, but Chiefs aren’t searching very hard for replacements. It’s good to see that Chiefs invested in the pass rush, but championship hopes could rest on TK developing faster than we have any right to expect him to. Chiefs have some decent depth on the OL, but they need to put together their best group and get them healthy. Alex Smith can’t do a lot without a viable run game, and Chiefs don’t have much behind Hunt. It’s all on the OL to provide him with better opportunities. Inexperience at WR has hurt Chiefs a lot, in recent weeks, the return of Albert Wilson could actually be a lot bigger than people realize.

Bonus Thought: Any time I get cocky and predict a decisive win, Chiefs seem to forget to show up. This week, for reverse psychology purposes, I will say that I’m very nervous to face the Giants. A team who has nothing to lose, but still has done nothing BUT lose, except to the hapless Denver Broncos. Giants might be terrible against the rest of the NFL, but they are dangerous in the AFC West. Reid and Sutton need to bring their A game in this one. Go Chiefs.

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  • Homer Dave

    I’m not so sure that the FO believed the roster was actually a Super Bowl contender going into the 2017 season. I’m sure they believed they had as much chance as other teams if they could get some lucky bounces though. With the firing of Dorsey and some of the comments from The Clark’s concerning being built for the future it looks to me as if the team started some type of rebuild that should be classified right betwixt a “reload” and a roster overhaul.

    I’m not sure what is going to happen with the coaching staff next offseason, but I can almost guarantee that we are about to see some beloved players jettisoned in order to get younger, build a new foundation, and get the salary cap under control.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      Yep. I think that’s pretty accurate. We’re likely to see the departure of Derrick Johnson, Tamba Hali and Dee Ford in the near future. Houston could be gone as soon as 2019, but it really depends on if he can stay healthy.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      I think the FO considered the roster as much a SB contender this year as much as the past two seasons. In single elimination tournaments, lucky bounces almost have to happen, or more importantly, unlucky ones can’t happen.
      I don’t think we’re looking at an overhaul, but any time a team is moving on from it’s QB to the “QBOTF”, which we obviously are preparing for, you’re correct in that it’s more than just a reload.

  • tm1946

    Another good read to start a morning…. mostly because I can see it, do not agree but can see it.

    What is the why behind it all? Management must operation with a view towards the future and distant future. But why did anyone think there was enough on the roster to win it all (that is what they are supposed to do every year, isn’t it?). To spend one pick on this year’s production and give away next years #1 all for several years away potential?

    OK, past that, we have 6 wins and can coast into the playoffs barring a total collapse. Just doubt this was part of anyones plan. But anyone dying to face NE or Pitts in the playoffs? I sort of thought the object of the exercise was to improve on last year to go further and get better every year. I could be wrong.

    • I’m kind of sure that the Front office had a view of this teams talent in the face of an NFL where parity is assured — it’s a good team with a good roster. Even the Pats have struggled but the are steady at the same time. Not the same Pats thus far. Eagles are the surprise. Pederson is showing he knows what he is doing.

      Back to the Kingdom: I would far have preferred drafting 3 starters in this draft which I believe could have happened, and we might still have been able to draft a QB in the process(Peterman, for example, who will start this week).

      That said? It’s a competitive team. What I am not seeing is the “fire” among the players, or at least it hasn’t burned as brightly as seen by their play. Leadership? Whatever. I still think the Chiefs will win 11 games. I had picked 12 but that will be difficult now but might could still occur. They win the division, so each game is crucial to get a bye and a home playoff game. Ransom is correct to worry the wart vis a vis a flat outing against the Giants. Pedal to the metal now.

      • tm1946

        Fire….. some say Alex got fire in his system by arrival of Mahomes (I do not subscribe to that), so if the team did not add starter threats with last draft, because the team had such a good roster (again, they could believe it but I would suggest not it), maybe the “good roster” players are not worried enough about keeping the old check rolling in, no one to take their place….. true or not… maybe.

        • Al Smith is playing as I knw he could.

          1. TE – Travis Kelce (Always a weapon, top of the NFL)
          2. RB – Kareem Hunt it would be a lot more ef
          2a RB – Ware – has been solid, he is missed. (See #2)
          3. WR – Hill — can get over the top, wild speed, great hands and great feet.
          4. WR – Conely — unfortunately knocked out of the season.

          4a. WR – Robinson – new, breaking in but making plays. length and toughness over the middle, able to contest the ball every time it is thrown his way. They wanted to break him in a lot slower, but had no choice and I think he is becoming a threat. See #4
          4b. WR – Wilson. Dang it, I wanted him fired and this season he is playing for the future contract and has done very well for what I consider to be the #3 WR or #4.

          5. QB Al Smith. You mentioned his play? I think having hill as a tool makes a huge difference.

          Those are the basic ball handlers. You could add West and Thomas as well.

          Pretty good when compared to most other teams in the NFL. Weakness? TE#2 who is better this year, not dropping the ball – Harris. TE#3, breaking in, Travis. Still, a weakness. Overall though, if the OL does it’s job, the Chiefs do indeed have top quality starters, even with Conley out, even with Ware out (as long as Hunt isn’t over used).

          I agre with the comment about (rebuild – But it isn’t the skilled positions. The focus to get PM cost the Chiefs the ability, for example, to get a quality CB to play opposite Peters. Ditto ILB/OLB. Hunt was a great selection, Dorsey knw what he was doing but you can’t say that you, nor I expected what we are seeing — even with the OL.

          So that gets to the next part, the retool. They must draft to both the OL/DL We need LBs. We need another corner….Or 2 or 3.

          • tm1946

            If you retool – you have to use the draft or free agency…. might look forward… not going to happen before 2019… no draft pick (certainly not enough) and with cap issues no money for free agents. Personally I think Dorsey did an 50/50 job and if you want to go from bad/sad to elite… that was not near good enough.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      There are basically two options:
      A. Chiefs were arrogant and thought they had enough talent to win it all this year, without any major additions from the draft. This could be a reason Dorsey got fired.
      B. Chiefs didn’t believe they had the talent to win it all this year. So they began the rebuild now.

      I think B is most likely. Chiefs thought they had enough talent to make a run, if everyone stayed healthy, but they knew they didn’t have the depth to be a serious contender. By loading up on ‘next year’ guys, Chiefs prepared themselves for the more dramatic rebuild that’s coming next year.

  • Whatever the reasoning behind the picks, it appears assured that the only pick where Dorsey and Co were drafting a starter was with Hunt, who was not on my radar, vis a vis, he was a lower consideration in the draft and all I knew was he had great talent and balance and did well in a “non-nfl conference” so to speak.

    The rest is “history”. The others are future/development picks and that includes Mahomes.

    None of this means that Dorsey did not have a plan to pick up a player or two, from F/A Signings etc. Problem was, he didn’t last long after the draft. He had shown the ability to find the right talent to add to the Roster.

    Now, here, Veach has made moves that I favor, which I listed as: Redmond, Erving, Ragland…. I am hoping Redmond gets his feet under him and can play soon. We need help at CB–now. I thought Mitchell was going to be better than he has shown. OTOH, I am aware that what happens opposite Peters is totally targeted for obvious reasons, no matter who is at the position. Someone has to step up to the task. Adding Nelson back in helps — inside. Safety without Berry isn’t okay either. That shows just how much Berry did for the Chiefs(not that these guys are bad, it’s just Berry is excptional).

    I wanted Veach to add a solid DL who was good v the run — ie, add a 1 yr contract to bolster the run D. Didn’t happen.

    • ladner morse

      Good morning sir. I agree with much of what you’ve said here but I think that Hunt could also have been a future pick because — and don’t forget — they had no reason to believe that Spencer Ware was about to go down. I think that if Ware was healthy, then he would have gotten the lion’s share of rushing touches this year.

      It’s hard to speculate but Reid’s been known to sit players who appear to be better and if that was the intent… then it also appears that this draft was almost completely designed to feed-the-future.

      Now, if that was the volitional approach I’d be wondering if “cap wriggle room” was really such a concern that they felt they needed to plan for future years instead of going for it now? A solid DB of any kind could have really helped right now.

      • It’s morning at 8:03, up since 5. It’s chilly but not cold. my toes are though.

        Your last comment is totally on point. If thy were drafting for now? They could have 2 defensive starters, Hunt and even still drafted a QB. Of course, Al Smith is my QB and I prefer to see him stick around for 5 seasons. Like that. I also think Dorsey knew what he had in Hunt, and Reid also, so it was proly a Ware Feature, break in Hunt slowly and develop a 1-2 punch. At least that’s my take. Dorsey knew what he had in Hunt(my belief).

        I have said many times that the Chiefs, drafting to defense, could have had a starter to place opposite Peters, obtained a starter quality ILB and maybe even an edge rusher, or swap priority and player, a QB and/or RB. They could have traded up to use picks and save cap. Or traded down to get out of round 1 money. Sure: Cap space consideration had to be in the plan.

        No one could have anticipated Berry’s injury or Ware’s. What we saw last year and this, is that the defense was in dire need of quality players and 2017 was rife with them. I think, if they worked it right, 3 of the 4 defensive needs could have been solved. Of course, Logan’s acquisition helped cover Poe’s departure except few players could take the plac and do what Poe did. Logan isn’t bad at all. It’s just not the same ability and play style.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      I hope you’re right about Redmond. Do you have a clue as to his health status? I think Logan has done a pretty good job. This biggest difference between him and Poe last year is that Poe never came off the field. As of right now, this year, Logan is credited with 32 tackles and Poe has 20, both with 1.5 sacks. As far as run D, I think that is as much Sutton’s scheme as personnel.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      Chiefs added two DL who were noted run stuffers. Bennie Logan and Roy Miller. Unfortunately, Miller proved to be a piece of trash who’s been cut.

      • Homer Dave

        and here we go again…how do you feel about Hill? Hill’s offenses were just as egregious for all we know. Both players were properly vetted by the regime. The only difference in the two players is date of offense and talent level.

        • Chiefly Bacon

          Piece of trash is probably too strong. I hope Miller comes out on the other side improving himself.

  • berttheclock

    What makes this past draft even more suspect is the fact Dorsey did not address the strength of that draft class which was defensive backs. He appeared to put far too much emphasis on the few late season games by Mitchell and did not add any quality to fill the roster. In addition, he did not address the fact both of the lines of the team, offense and defense, had to pushed backwards in the crucial playoffs. Al Davis used to say you built your team to win your division. I believe that with the parity of today’s NFL, you should build your team to win in the playoffs. Just racking up regular season games may well look great on the resume of the HC, but, it does not bring the team any closer to the coveted Lombardi Trophy.

    Next year’s draft has been suggested by many pundits to be the equivalent of the notorious 2013 draft class. Few stars are out there. But, there will be quality to add in the 2nd tier and, also, find some needed depth in the 3rd tier. The first round will be dominated by QBs. Not all are that good, but, the cream will go early. However, GMs are hungry to add QBs in the hope some rival might not beat them to the punch. If Veach is going to build through the draft, it will be in the 2nd and 3rd tiers. However, one thing should be noted about that 2013 draft class. If that draft could be re-done today, an UDFA from that draft and one who was cut after his first camp and re-signed by the original drafting team, would, now, be a 1st rounder. He is Thielen, the wide out of the Vikings. Went completely unnoticed by the teams when he came out of Minnesota State.

    One last point and it concerns Veach. He was the one who brought Mahomes II to the attention of Dorsey. But, from various reports, it looks as though he was involved with the scouting of USC players. If so, what did he see in McQuay III, who was noted by many scouts as having tackling difficulties in college and Mama? If he was involved, that means his ability to spot talent is extremely limited and does not bode well for finding 3rd tier talent in the draft.

    • Added observation: Several ILBs out there before this started, could have been obtained. 2017’s draft must add a quality offensive lineman and look to CB, ILB and DL> My view at this point. As I noted below for Laddie, obtaining PH hurt th ability to field a much improved defense in 2017. I think getting PH was Dorsey’s contribution to the future but who knows until he takes the reins, whether he is average, a bust or a future HoF’er. (And Peterman is getting the start Sunday(he was my pick if you recall).

      • ladner morse

        I’m pretty sure that the Bills are wanting to see what they have in Peterman before the end of this season… so… they can decide if they will need to go into the 2018 NFL Draft looking for a QBOTF… or not.

    • ladner morse

      Hi Bert. While I agree with much of what you have stated here… using the McQuay and Mama examples to say that Veach’s ability to spot talent is “extremely limited” is an over reaction. Please name one talent evaluator who hasn’t mis-fired.

      The more that year go by and I try and evaluate the talent potential in each draft… I realize that so much of it is a crapshoot. Sure, they’re paid to know and paid to correctly evaluate the talent in front of them… but… the reality is that no one knows… until… after all is said and done, meaning, the player performs or does not perform. I was sold on Jon Baldwin. Turns out all the talent in the world is no substitution for focus, drive, and the personal commitment to develop your own talent. Those last three are what talent scouts have a tough time isolating when visiting with a prospect. Apparently, Jon Baldwin had —
      all the talent in the world — but none of those three.

      So… I missed big time on the evaluation of a prospect. And so, I move on. Now, I’m beginning to believe that talent evaluators are like DB coaches who tell their DBs, “As soon as the last play is done, forget about it.” And really, they have to do that because they must live to make another move… and as soon as they do… move on and make another move. I guess that they’re hoping they get a high enough percentage of those decisions right. And many of them do… until they’re unemployed. How may scouting evaluation teams stay in tact for 30 years? Not many. Gil Brandt… and… and… and… ???

    • Chiefly Bacon

      I wouldn’t fret too much about Veach’s scouting ability based on a single 7th round pick and an UDFA. Mama is the only OL left on the PS, that’s something. We’ll learn a lot more about Brett Veach once he has a draft or two under his belt. Two moves he’s made that are already paying dividends, is the trade for Ragland and the trade for KPL. Both showed up nicely in the Cowboys game, once Sutton finally started scheming for them properly.

    • What would have happened if the Chiefs indeed had brought in Kendricks? I still think Veach would have acquired Ragland. A draft as you laid out for defense(and myself), with the skill players we have, The Chiefs would be really rolling(sans piss poor play-calling). Of course, I think we need to bring a quality ick for the OL each season as well. 2018? No #1, no #7. Veach is going to have to give up a spot and trade back if he can.

  • PaulFromNorthMo

    Great article Ransom, I agree with what Laddie said below that if Ware had remained healthy, he would have been the starting RB. I think Dorsey hitting the 3rd pick out of the park was partly a lucky swing.
    I’m still not sure about Kpassagnon, hopefully he’ll get a few more snaps in the coming weeks, talk about raw. The potential may be there but at some point it has to be realized. Maybe that will start to happen in a big way next season.
    I like your thoughts on the WR’s. With DAT and A Wilson in the final year of their contracts, we could be going to taller, bigger guys with good hands that can go up and secure a pass, assuming we have a QB that will actually throw a contested ball.
    Veach has already made some low cost moves that could pay off pretty well with Ragland, P-Lewis and even Erving. I believe as of right now our biggest weaknesses are CB and pass rush. Unfortunately there are 31 other teams that place a very high value on those two positions, making improvements there a hard task.

    • ladner morse

      Yes… CB and OLB… hard to fill those needs. I’m beginning to wonder if Houston is worse off than we may have thought. Could his being asked to drop into coverage be a move to not place any more stress of a freshly repaired knee that can’t take the rigors of drive blocking a RT into the QB?

      I have had, as noted before, three left knee operations over the years. Each time, the doctor reminds me that an activity like jogging places 400-to-500 pounds of pressure on my knees with each lunge I take while running. He was going off of the stress chart, at that time. Now, we know that for every pound that a runner carries… FOUR POUNDS of stress is placed upon their knees. A magnitude of four. WOW!

      Can you imagine how much stress is being placed on Justin Houston surgically repaired knee when he rounds the corner and is essentially holding the weight of a RT on his back (and knees)… or when he attempts to drive block a RT straight back into the QB?

      I’m sure the Chiefs coaches know all of this… and it may be a reason we are seeing JH drop into coverage as much as we do.

      • what game was it that everyone came away with the impression that JH was dropping a whoppiong number of times into coverage? Seth Keyser went through the game film and there were 6. That said? I don’t know. Houston has 7.5 sacks right, or more. Getting 15 is tops. Those that get 20 in a Season have had fortune shine on them. Too, Houston has had Ford or Hali Opposite. Ford is injured, Hali’s knee had swelling. Having the Hali of old on th opposite side benefited Houston. Constant edge pressure. Hmmm. now then, the pass rush was imposing because of that, the 3 amigos, down to one–think about Howard’s return and this DL–oh well. Something wasn’t right about Howard, his injury and release so we proly don’t know the story behind it.

        • Homer Dave

          “what game was it that everyone came away with the impression that JH was dropping a whoppiong number of times into coverage?”

          yeah, the hot taek of Houston dropping into coverage a majority of the time was debunked. The problem is that every single time anyone, anywhere, sees Houston drop into coverage they have adverse reminiscences of Houston on Antonio Brown. It’s a valid fear.

      • PaulFromNorthMo

        Very good points Laddie, maybe that’s why we’ve been seeing Houston taking more snaps on the right side of the D. It seems more so late in games.

        • Homer Dave

          Sutton was moving JH50 around a lot in the last game(s). Overloading the R/S seemed to be his favorite in that regard.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Whichever game Kpass played in(maybe the last one?), I noticed JH50 playing several snaps from the D right. Zombo was on the left until Kpass came in.

          • Homer Dave

            I caught that also. The first thing that came to mind was the question of whether Sutton saw a weakness to exploit or if he was trying to cause a spark. I settled on the answer, both.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      Thanks. CB needs to be a major priority. Chiefs should look for opportunities to sing OLBs in FA. It’s really tough to find good ones in the draft, if you’re not near the top.

      • Homer Dave

        yeah, KC spent like 3 draft picks on the Secondary just 2 years ago. That philosophy worked well, one of them didn’t even make it out of camp.

        I have never looked it up…but I truly wonder how many swings-and-a-miss other GMs have in their draft class. Not busts, those are all to common, but draft picks that never even see the field e.g. Russel, that FB from KSU, Hogan, etc. etc.

        • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

          In the last 20 years
          16.7 % of the players never seen a single snap with the team that drafted them.
          37% were deemed useless
          15.3 poor
          10.5 average
          12.3 good
          6.9 great……and 1% legendary.

          One thing those stats don’t tell is if certain GMs have had more success than others.

  • Homer Dave

    I would like to trade our entire Secondary for Tennessee’s. There is not a single ball coming anywhere near them that is not being severely contested. I’d keep Nelson though, he’d stick.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      How does their pass rush look?
      Even the best CB’s can’t cover a WR forever.

      • Homer Dave

        great point, and very, very true. Big Ben is getting harassed every time he wants to hold the ball for more than 2 seconds and the pressure is starting from the inside of the d-line and working it’s way outside. It’s beautiful, lol.

  • Tazmosis

    Before the season, most of us were led to believe, mistakenly, that the Chiefs had one of the deepest rosters in the NFL. Dorsey and the coaches must have thought it as well. Look at this roster. Two backups at tight end that can’t play. Talk about developmental players. We lose Conley, and now Wilson is hurt. Our WRs are sad. And so it goes. As for the D, DJ, Hali, Ford. You gotta be kiddin’. Our D-line is no better than in 2016. As for the secondary. Well, what can I say. We have Peters, and then…..Peters, and also……Peters.
    Andy needs to get this back on track, on both sides of the ball. If not, well the season could become an embarrassment, and soon. I am not saying that we won’t blow through the rest of this weak-ass schedule. But we ain’t beatin’ the Steelers or the Pats.
    BTW, as I am printing this, I am watching Pittsburgh just completely destroy the Titans.