Eye in the Sky Report- 5.29.17

Eye in the Sky Report

2017 Kansas City Chiefs

By John Cooney – Senior Staff Writer for Fantasy Football Mastermind




The Draft is about a month past and it is a good time to review the picks while catching up on some OTA looks and off-season goings-on.


The Chiefs’ draft went down like this after all moves and trades were completed:


1.10- QB Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech, from Bills (trade)

2.27- DL Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova

3.22- RB Kareem Hunt, Toledo, from Vikings through Dolphins (trade)

4.33- WR Jehu Chesson, Michigan, compensatory pick – from Vikings through Eagles through Browns (trade)

5.40- LB Ukeme Eligwe, Georgia Southern, compensatory pick – from Patriots (trade)

6.27-  Forfeited: Tampering (Jeremy Maclin)

6.35- DB Leon McQuay III, Southern California, compensatory pick










So, out of all the prospects the Chiefs officially worked out or met with, only QB Pat Mahomes was actually selected and no other prospect officially listed by the Chiefs were signed as undrafted free agents. So much for that pre-draft undertaking on my part.




Patrick Mahomes II


As is usually the case in my annual mock draft for the Chiefs, I had the right position in the right round on one prediction and nailed the exact player in consolation fashion, as an either/or and off by a round. I did have the Chiefs taking a QB with their first pick but guessed on Deshaun Watson being the arms and legs Coach Reid would covet. Turns out QB was the right top choice, but Pat Mahomes was the target GM John Dorsey traded up for. Let me say I am thrilled with the aggressive action taken to call out Mahomes’ name. Of all the QBs in this draft, Mahomes was my “wish”, but I never thought the Chiefs would spend the collateral needed to get into position to pick the Texas Tech machine. This is Coach Reid’s KC version of the Donovan McNabb selection when he took over in Philly. That was a successful marriage of Coach/QB and I think we are about to experience an 8-10 year run of exciting Chiefs’ football AFTER the Alex Smith era.




Tanoh Kapssagnon


The player I kinda got right was 2nd rounder Tanoh Kpassagnon of Villanova. Kpassagnon is a huge DE/DT that is just scratching the surface of his immense talent and still has room to grow; he’s currently 6’7-290. I had the Chiefs tabbing the big D-lineman in the 3rd round in the event Trey Hendrickson was not available. Turns out KC’s draft brass didn’t wait for either to be available in the 3rd and pulled the call-out trigger in the 2nd round. Again, he has some cleaning up to do and maturing that must follow in his play, but his physical tools are outstanding.




RB Kareem Hunt


Already making a lot of OTA noise is 3rd-round RB Kareem Hunt from Toledo. He’s been impressing and working hard to do so. Catching the eyes of on-field beat reporters, Hunt has already been projected to be the Chiefs’ top rusher and receiver out of the backfield.




Completing the Draft and UDFAs


Mr. Dorsey didn’t attack the secondary in the draft as I anticipated but sure bought into it post draft. The Chiefs didn’t select a DB until the 6th round, choosing DB Leon McQuay III. McQuay isn’t even a CB, a position I felt KC would target early. He’s a safety, most likely at a strong position inside. Post-draft the Chiefs signed another strong safety type, Jordan Sterns out of Oklahoma State. CB was addressed with the inking of 3 undrafted free agents; Ashton Lampkin (Oklahoma State), JR Nelson (Montana) and Devin Chappell (Oregon state). This translate to the staff being happy with the advancements of CB Steve Nelson and a projection the Phillip Gaines will round into top form for 2017, opposite Marcus Peters. Staying on the defensive portion of the draft, KC used a 5th round pick on Ukeme Uligwe of Georgia Southern. ILB is a morphing position in the NFL and teams are no longer putting a high draft value on the interior LB spot, opting to draft swing-type LBs with athletic tools to mold into what the team might need inside. Derrick Johnson is coming off another major injury and is hitting age 34, so ILB had to be addressed. I threw out the name of athletic LB Elijah Lee, but the Chiefs grabbed the 6’1-235 Uligwe.


KC gave up a couple of draft picks this season in trades with the Bills, Vikings, and Patriots, and lost a 6th in the Jeremy Maclin tampering snafu. With the premium now placed on each draft opportunity due to the scarcity of draft slots this year, it baffles me that the Chiefs threw away a pick on WR Jehu Chesson of Michigan. He’s a lunch-pail type, but I just fail to see the upside here. My “throw away” comment is justified somewhat by the post-draft signing of not 1, not 2, not 3, but 5 WRs, in addition to drafting Chesson. I thought North Carolina’s Mack Hollins would have been an ideal selection on the 4th and could be the Eagles, still with KC ties via HC Doug Pederson, jumped on the very underrated Hollins before Mr. Dorsey had a chance and the Chiefs just went with the nest WR on their board at that slot. I don’t know, but Chesson is no Mack Hollins. Heck, I would have preferred Chad Hansen (Cal-4th after KC pick of Chesson), Shelton Gibson (WVA-5th), Stacy Coley (MIA-6th) or Noah Brown (Oh St-6th) over Chesson. And where does he fit in after Maclin, Tyreek Hill, Chris Conley, Albert Wilson, Travis Kelce, rookie RB Hunt and Spencer Ware? We’ll see.


On the OTA front, Jeremy Maclin admits his 2016 was a mess… no kidding! Maclin vows to right his 2016 wrong. He did have injuries and handled some undisclosed off-field issues (family?) that appeared to be major distractions. Maclin should be better this season for sure, but he isn’t needed as much as prior to last season. The wonderful surprise (to some) of WR Tyreek Hill has helped deepen the WR unit for the Chiefs. Albert Wilson was re-upped and this just may the year uber-talented Chris Conley takes off. If there is anyone that carries the “I’m Due” sign on his back this pre-season, its Conley. Alex Smith accepts the drafting of Mahomes and knows full well 2017 is still his. I don’t want to see Mahomes take a snap in 2017, and I don’t think Coach Reid wants to see the QB of 2018 in there either this season. With that said, Mr. Dorsey best do something to create a cushion between Smith and Mahomes in the way of a viable veteran backup QB Currently all that separates the starter and the rookie are Tyler Bray and Joel Stave. YIKES for 2017 if either of those flawed passers are at the helm for any length of time. The big question is who… the free agent waters are filled with Bray and Stave types. Austin Davis isn’t a bad option.


Okay, who is Kareem Hunt? The Chiefs’ 2017 3rd-round selection is a RB that played 4 years at Toledo. Though not a swift runner, Hunt is quick in space and sees the field well. He compiled 782 career carries in college, netting a very impressive 6.3 yards a carry. The 6.3 YPC is quite an accomplishment as this is an average usually related to speedy tailbacks that break the 40-yard dash under 4.5 seconds. Hunt’s Combine 40 was a very average 4.62 and his efforts to improve that number at his Pro Day workouts resulted in a slightly better 4.6-forty. Key for KC fans is Hunt’s 10-yard split; he gets going rapidly at 1.59 seconds. Again, quicker than fast, but he plays fast with the ball in his hands. Not only is Hunt a heady rusher, he morphed into a prolific pass-catcher in his final season at Toledo. After snaring just 9 and 11 passes in years 2014 and 2015, Hunt exploded with 41 catches last season. That pass-catching ability was surely a trait that attracted the Chiefs, as Coach Reid likes throwing to his backs. Hunt also has a keen nose for the stripe, scoring 44 rushing TDs in 4 seasons at Toledo. So, is all the early talk about Hunt taking over feature duties in the Chiefs’ backfield warranted? Sure. Spencer Ware is a solid all-around back but he’s far from sudden. Charcandrick West brings pop and speed, but so far has not shown his coaches he can withstand extended play. And, GM Dorsey spent a 3rd round pick on a RB, in a market that devalues the position still. If there is one position that can play immediately in the NFL with success, it is RB. Hunt is a well-seasoned collegiate rusher with proven all-around ability. Young legs behind a solid O-line in a conservative offense sounds like feature back material to me.


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  • berttheclock

    Picks two and three are outstanding. The others are mostly a swing and a miss, including the first pick. Dorsey ended up giving away far too much for a so-called savior.

    BTW, Andy Reid had little to do with drafting Donovan McNabb in Philly. He did not have any authority in drafting in 1999. It was Joe Banner, who was in charge of drafting and he over rode the fans desire to take Ricky Williams with the 2nd pick. However, even though the Philly fans were highly upset over Banner taking McNabb, McNabb proved to be the best of the first five players taken in that draft. Couch was a bust as was Aliki Smith. Ricky Williams proved to be very problematic and he was surpassed by Edgerrin James as a star RB.

    As for that so-called “QB whisperer” effect by Fat Andy, it was the work of both Doug Pederson and Brad Childress who really honed McNabb. After that, McNabb’s career in Philly was largely up and down. He could really throw TDs in games, but, he could, also, throw costly picks such as their one SB game. That led to the huge dispute by T O over his saying McNabb had cost them the game. After that, McNabb was up and down until he left for the Vikings to be reunited with Brad Childress. But, after going 1-5 with them, his career was over.

    Andy Reid never really developed his successors with the Eagles, either. He did have some production at times from both Jeff Garcia and one other backup, but, even Kolb had major problems which led to Reid being fired.

    • ladner morse

      McNabb was 92-49-1 in Philly as a starter.

      “Andy has been there, and he’s done that. He understands what’s best for you, and he’s going to put you in the best situation possible. So, it was the early part of year two when things started to click and I knew everything that was going on around me. That’s when I started finishing… sentences. I knew what he was thinking, I knew what he wanted and knew what he expected.” ~Donovan McNabb

      “When you look at the defense, don’t look at the whole 11 (guys out there), schematically, look at one guy, and that one guy will tell you what they’re doing. It’s overwhelming if you’re really trying to digest it. You’re like, ‘OK, is it cover 4, cover 3 or cover 1? Is it two-man? Andy was great at simplifying it. That’s what he does.” ~Brett Favre

      “He’s in a perfect situation. He’s 21 years old, he’s a true junior … he is nowhere near a finished product, mentally … and certainly, he’s not a finished product physically.” ~Jon Gruen on Mahomes

      I have a deep-seated respect for Andy Reid and prefer that he not be called disparaging names. Especially a name that is offensive to those with weight problems … like my own sister who has lived her life with thyroid problems.

      • berttheclock

        Similar records do not indicate similar successes. Montana was a come from behind leader and winner. Don’t just look at the overall record of McNabb, but, look at what happened in his only SB appearance, when, he threw TDs, but, in the 4th quarter, he threw picks which cost his team the win. That was the major reason for the T O diatribe against him the following year as T O called him out for blowing the game.

        • that’s all emotion laden stuff from TO. I never liked the man. Yeah, DM threw TDs and picks. Okay. Who was he playing for? What was the play called? was it forced(I think McNabb did that). Don’t recall both picks though). Bottom line? Mahomes can only be judged by his predisposition, his talent and the question is, can he fulfill it or not. For the NFL? My choice ended up being Webb. We’ll see.

        • ladner morse

          I doubt you’d want to cite Dan Marino’s Super Bowl stats to judge his overall value as a QB. How about Marino’s 8-10 playoff record? McNabb was 9-7 in the playoffs.

          However, I would rank Marino in the top 5 QBs of all-time. Although I won’t list McNabb in the top ten… citing playoff records to establish a QBs worth is probably not as relevant as most fans would like to believe. Although, if you are responsible for repeatedly taking your team in length-of-the-field game-winning drives to win the biggest games (like Montana did) then I can understand the GOAT moniker. However, that requires an excellent team surrounding a QB that can put their QB in the place to make such big game drives.

          • I wouldn’t rank McNabb anywhere near the top 10. But Laddie’s observation about Marino is also apropos. Sort of like what Phil Rivers does in Today’s NFL.

      • One thing for sure, I like Gruden. He knows what he is doing and does it well after he has left the coaching ranks for big bucks and TV. Andy is still coach, and that is say that Andy is one of the top coaches, overall, for W/L record. He knows how to motivate. He is good at teaching. OTOH, he is far over-rated as a QB coach and here I am taking into account how Favre feels about him and so on. So I am going to poke fun at the discord about Andy and his cheeseburger — the burger monster is, in my view, a truly great coach. I have my complete disagreement with him about play-calling and that is a fact. I believe that Andy’s grandiosity gets in his way and that is how I judge things by the offense and flow of the games. For me? He wastes talent and calls plays that do not lend themselves to getting the teach into synch, if you will. All of us can second guess him but I can sit at Arrowhead or watch TV and I say to myself so many times in a game — now why the F did he call that play? Why is Hill running wind sprints behind the line o scrimmage. Why is AS/11 not throwing to Conley. It just is astounding to me that he cannot watch his own game films and see what his play calling does to the guys on offense. But that is me. I disagree as well on Andy making the call on player selection for the draft or signing as well(see the other frame of reference with Bacon). But do I want to fire Andy? nope. And I like Cheeseburgers too.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      When you decide to make a personal vendetta against someone, you end up making silly arguments sometimes. In a good coach GM relationship, there is collaboration. No decent GM would take a QB without consulting his coach. No head coach will leave the development of a 1st round QB soley to his QB coach. Reid has a QB coach he likes a lot now in Matt Naggy. Indeed Naggy has done a great job with Alex Smith, but Reid remains clearly involved in that process. As he was involved in coaching Alex Smith when he first came in and with Mahomes now.

      I’d challenge you to find a head coach, in the modern era, who has successfully developed two great QBs. As the old saying goes, you can’t polish a turd. Even the best coaches have to have something to work with. Bellichek is widely revered as one of the best coaches, but it’s also worth noting that he found Tom Brady in his first year and hasn’t needed another starting QB since. Pete Carroll and Mike Tomlin have only had success with one QB each. Mike McCarthy had two star QBs, but he inherited Farve, so you can really only credit him with Rogers. John Harbaugh hasn’t done much with anyone, but Flacco. Tom Coughlin got Eli in his first year as a head coach and never looked back. There’s actually an argument to made, that if Reid CAN develop another star QB, he’ll be one of the best at coaching QBs in the league.

      • This point is taken, but I am going to put it to you this way. You are a GM. Your career hangs on the picks and their success. Andy wants player A, but comes to head v John’s choice player B. John is certain that the choice should be B, but A is pretty good too. Does John take player A? Or certain that B is the better player and his scouting staff concurs, which player is taken? I am sorry but my career hangs on the pick and it is my bread and butter. I take player B, even with all the input from the HC and his staff. We don’t know what went on but we know the process as it has been identified by Hunt, Dorsey and Reid. Reid’s input comes late in the process and Dorsey makes the decision. It can be the advise of Reid and his staff, say Reid and Nagy, for example, weighs heavily in favor of Player A. Dorsey and Co go back and do another film study deeply on that basis. They still come out with B. B is the selection if it were me and I believe that that would be how it came out if there was a difference of views. Nor do I believe there would be hard feelings about it between the two men or their staff.

        • Chiefly Bacon

          I’d say that’s true of just about any position but QB. Can’t give a coach a QB he doesn’t believe in. Look at the Osweiler situation.

          • Which means that the HC and GM have to work together, but it doesn’t mean that Andy makes the call. Those functions are separate and distinct and each is subordinate in a separate chain of command from Hunt. Dorsey’s job is one thing, Andy’s another. Andy doesn’t scout, Dorsey does and he has a hell of crew for doing it. It doesn’t mean that Andy doesn’t study film. The decision lies with the GM. Now, it could be that they have worked out that x, y, and z are not the right guy. A and B are. then they work together of that i am absolutely sure. In the end, I am GM? I make the call. period. I live and breath that part of the biz and Andy doesn’t. When Andy did, he wasn’t that good at it and his coachings suffered because of it. He has stated this several times since arriving, that Dorsey is GM and I am not. Dorsey doesn’t get involved in the daily grind of coaching but he is ever present. I am sure he gives his views on things when asked and probably some when not asked. On the field? Andy makes the call. It’s designed that way. There will never be a controversy because of it. Both men know their roles. Now that said? I would say they are both blessed to have each other. If Andy overruled on Player B, I Believe that John Dorsey would be all ears.

            But bottom line? Dorsey makes the call on this.

      • Merlin

        Bill Walsh. He developed Montana and Young.

        • ladner morse

          Steve Young was traded to the 9ers.

          • Merlin

            Sure, but he struggled in TB IIRC.He became a great QB under Walsh. Are you not going to credit GB for developing Farve when he was traded to the from Atlanta?

          • ladner morse

            Naw… he became great in the USFL… hehe

          • Merlin

            LA Express baby!!!!!

          • jimfromkcj

            Talking about Coachs and QB’s. Am I wrong, but is joe Gibbs the only coach to win more than one SB with two different QB’s?

          • Merlin

            No Parcells won two, one with Simms one with Hostetler

          • jimfromkcj

            I was wrong, Gibbs won three Super Bowls with three different QB’s Doug Williams,Mark Rypien and I believe Joe Theismann who won one and lost one. So Gibbs was in 4 super Bowls. Still the reason I liked him was that he played a brand of football from his Don Corell days with a massive power blocking off line and a big running back who could pick up yards in Riggins, Byner and Rogers and some sure handed receivers who could make them pay deep if they filled the box to stop the run. The one thing I actually like about Reid and Dorsey is that they have put together a huge off line that could be really good with the right kind of coaching. But if they insist in playing a zone offense it will be a terrible waste. We should try to get the off line coach that was here when Vermiele was here. Smash mouth football is possible with these guys. I think I mentioned before that I was buying some garden seeds at the Planters seed company on the River Quay and there was the huge guy ahead of me in the check out line. I am short and I came to just above his waste. He was wearing cut off pants and his calfs were about the size of my thighs and arms like an ape. I can’t say positively that it was Fisher as I don’t make a fuss over celebrities and didn’t say anything to him. I like my privacy and treat them like I would prefer being treated. Have run across any number of Chiefs and Royals over the years and have never butted into their space. But I would bet it was Fisher. but we have an off line now that has the size that I have been hoping for forever and the only thing that can keep us from having a great team has nothing to do with size.

          • berttheclock

            No, the league folded before he ever played. So, he went to the Bucs in a supplemental draft for players from the folded league.

          • Merlin

            Steve Young played for 2 years in the USFL and threw for over 4000 yards.

          • berttheclock

            Thanks, Merlin. Yes, he did play for both the ’84 and ’85 years. I had forgotten that fact as the league folded so quickly. So, I wonder how much of the $40 M he received. But, one thing about his leaving for Tampa Bay is the fact the former “Guru” of USC never was able to transfer any of his college magic into trying to run a pro team.

            One other thing about that original signing was how badly Don Klosterman was treated by Georgia Frontierre after he went to work for the Rams. Klosterman had been a close friend of his late husband and Georgia hated him for that fact. She made sure he was kept in an office far away from any team activities. So, the “Duke” was shunted sadly away from any power and evaluation of any Rams’ player. I still believe few fans of the Chiefs know enough about how he and Wells were the two men largely responsible for building the Super Bowl team of the Chiefs. Klosterman fell on his sword for Lamar Hunt and few have given him the proper credit he so highly deserved.

          • Merlin

            I agree, Klosterman was a very good talent evaluator. .

          • freshmeat62

            Both the Chiefs and the Royals were lucky to have some of the greatest talent evaporators in their early years. Klostermen w/ the Chiefs, and Cedric Tallis w/ the Royals, who made some fantastic trades for the likes of Pinella, Otis, McRea and many more. I think both Klosterman and Tallis became too big for their respective bosses.

          • berttheclock

            BTW, Favre spent five years developing in GB under the leadership of Steve Mariucci and Pat Shurmer, as Andy Reid was their TE and assistant offensive line coach for those first five years. Andy Reid only worked with him as his QB coach for Favre’s 6th and 7th year with the Packers.

          • berttheclock

            Yes, indeedee do from the Tampa Bay Bucs. But, did you know who first signed him to his first pro contract? None other than Don Klosterman, who was largely responsible for drafting the main body of the Chiefs only Super Bowl win. Don signed him to a $40 M deal (of course, that became moot when the LA Express folded quickly).

        • Chiefly Bacon

          Good one, but you’re also looking at a LEGENDARY coach AND one whose last year of coaching was 1988. Very different era of football.

          • ladner morse

            Plus… Young wasn’t inserted until 1992… years after Walsh left.

          • Merlin

            Young came to the 9’ers in 1987 and Walsh last coached them in 1988. So Young had two years under Walsh and played very well during those times.

      • berttheclock

        Since you mentioned Harbaugh coaching Joe Flacco. I will suggest you look up every single trade up for a QB in the NFL draft in the past 20 years and you may well find Flacco was the only QB taken as a trade up who made it big in the NFL. The other trade ups for “saviors” have mostly failed with Wentz still on the bubble.

        Dorsey could have moved this team into SB contention, but, by this inept draft and further mediocre addition of questionable FAs, he has moved this team into contention for 3rd place in the AFC West. Both John Schneider and McKenzie of the Raiders had far better drafts this past year than did Dorsey. Even Thompson who developed all three of these GMs had a far better draft than did Dorsey.

        Yes, I do have a major problem with both Reid and Dorsey as I firmly believe this past draft has set this Red and Gold team backwards. Call is a personal vendetta if you like, but, I just view it as I saw the needs for Dorsey to improve the team become wasted. I suggest you review how King, the Dub CB taken by Thompson would have helped the Chiefs far more than did taking a “savior” QB. Also, I would suggest you look more closely at how well the DT from Auburn plays this year and remember he was available at 91. This was a stud year for corner backs and defensive players. Yes, Dorsey hit a homer with Dpass, but, he failed badly in the other areas.

        • Chiefly Bacon

          FWIW that’s kinda to be expected. It usually awful teams who trade up for QBs and then fail to coach them up, or start them too early and ruin them. Usually good teams don’t have to trade up for QBs because they already have an ensconced starter. Chiefs are kind of in a unique spot, where they have a pretty good QB, but are stuck behind two AFC teams with better QBs. It’s pretty impossible to evaluate a draft this early though. If Mahomes takes two years to start, but plays like Aaron Rogers or Brett Farve, I think you’d have to call it a win. If he never gets better than Smith, it’s a loss. Similar with Hunt, if he makes the offense special, you really can’t complain about the guys they passed up. It’s really just too soon to grade the draft positively or negatively. There were a lot of good CBs in the draft several I wanted, but there’s also a lot of good CBs on Chiefs’ roster. I’ll wait to see the pass defense before I get upset about it not being bolstered.

    • tm1946

      Bert, I am of the opposite opinion… sort of. I think both the 2rd and 3rd will play but I am betting they are just guys. High draft picks but just guys. As for the rest, do not know, never heard of a single one, do not recall talking heads saying this kid is the cat’s pajamas.

      As for Reid, he wins 10 games a year…. and that is good enough until Hunt gets fed up with crappy playoff series. JUST LIKE IN PHILLY.

    • Merlin

      Reid was fired in Philly after taking on the role of Coach and GM. Performing both roles led to him being ineffective at both. I really have to ask you point blank. You seem to have a grudge against Reid. Why? You usually make great points in your posts. However, this grudge is affecting your perspective. It appears that you want to place the blame for things that go wrong with the Chiefs on Reid and credit for the successes goes elsewhere.

      • berttheclock

        The grudge I have against Reid is based on two things. I feel he was the one who influenced Dorsey into developing a “Drop Alex Smith” plan. This was not the year of the QB of the future in the NFL. Next year would have been far better. By doing so, Dorsey gave up far too much. If you check out the trade ups for “Saviors as QBs” in the past few years, you find only the trade up for Flacco worked out. This was the year of the corner back in the NFL and Dorsey could have been able to produce as close to possible two book end CBs had Dorsey waited to take King from the Dub. He could have helped solidify the defensive line by not throwing away the 91 pick. Plus, Dorsey gave away the first pick next year. I looked at how both lines were pushed backwards by both the Pats and the Steelers. I see no real push added by Dorsey to this problem.

        The second thing about Andy Reid I do not like is, while, he does have a winning record, he makes far too many play calling mistakes and has a major problem with clock management, then, just goes before the press and says his familiar “Mea Culpa”.

        He reminds me of watching George Karl and George Allen. Karl won a great deal of games with the Supersonics, but, never understood what he needed to win in the NBA finals. Similar to George Allen with both the Rams and the Redskins. Largely hype over winning during the regular season, but, a failure in Prime Time.

        • berttheclock

          Plus, I am just too damned old to have to wait to see my beloved Chiefs try for the Lombardi. I really thought with some major tweaking I might have been able to see such next year. Now, it appears to me to see all of that fading rapidly away That is why I am turning into a “Grumpy Old Man”.

          • Merlin

            If you are going to turn into a grumpy old man, can you be Jack Lemmon and not Walter Matthau?

          • berttheclock

            Well, Lemmon ended up with Ann Margaret, eh?

          • Merlin


          • I can still go for that. aside. My favorite film with her is: Magic, where she played opposite Anthony Hopkins, with Burgess Meredith.

          • tm1946

            Agreed…. I always wonder just why Reid is so exempt from criticism. We may have been junk before he arrived and he can win 10 games a year (a fine record) but a great coach gets to the SB and wins some…. Think of Grant of Vikings… he at least made it to the SB and lost them…. pretty fair coach but not above comments about not winning SB’s… Many tolerate no comment except to say how he wins 10 games and better than Pioli’s coaches.

        • Bert has echoed my sentiments about Reid’s faux pas’. That said, I still believe him to be a great HC, and would get over the top in this matter if the Chiefs could add a couple of big trophies to the case along side our single earned honor.

  • berttheclock

    Ah, the days of yore when this holiday of today was known as Decoration Day until it was changed to Memorial Day and the date for the remembrance of the fallen soldiers, sailors and airmen and women in our national service lost in wars was always on May 30.

    However, even with the new date for this remembrance, it still is the time to remember all of those who gave up their last full measure for this nation. Wear a poppy, fly the US flag and recall the playing of Taps in your own heart.

    • freshmeat62

      I would love to play ‘Taps’, but it always chokes me up! So I’ll just hum a few notes until the eye’s well up.

      • “The Long Grey Line”.

      • Andy

        The military funeral gets me. There is a roll call, and the Soldiers present sound off ‘here First Sergeant’ when their name is called alphabetically. Then the fallen Soldiers name is called…silence. His name is called again…silence. Then taps is played.

    • Ah the Poppy. Our celebration was formerly May 30, Decoration Day. The poppy is commonly worn as a sign of remberance and respect for the those who gave their lives in service of their country. It is also worn on Armistice day: Nov 11th each year, now known as The Poppy controversy rages yearly, about what it symbolizes, and where it should be worn. I won’t get into the controversy, but will state that by tradition it should be worn on the left lapel., close to your heart. The Poppy is worn above any other flower in remembrance — it grows wild in many fields of battle in France and Belgium, where some of the most deadly battles took place. It is thought they are a fitting emblem to remember those who died.

      Early use of the poppy flower as it relates to war, loss of life and remembrance:

      Flanders Field by John McCrae:

      In Flanders fields the poppies blow

      Between the crosses, row on row,

      That mark our place; and in the sky

      The larks, still bravely singing, fly

      Scarce heard amid the guns below.

      We are the Dead. Short days ago

      We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,

      Loved, and were loved, and now we lie

      In Flanders fields.

      Take up our quarrel with the foe:

      To you from failing hands we throw

      The torch; be yours to hold it high.

      If ye break faith with us who die

      We shall not sleep, though poppies grow

      In Flanders fields.

      -Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae (1872 – 1918)

      * * * *
      I can’t recall who related this story to me, but Bert brought it to my “presence” so I will relate it here, a Woman in Britain had stopped to purchase a poppy and obtain a pin with which to fasten it. She was later stopped by a man selling poppies and this is the story:

      According to one woman(Karen Lowton), she was given a great lesson in the correct way to wear a poppy by an ex-serviceman in her home town of Orpington.

      Karen said that she was on her way to a meeting in London and realised her poppy pin had dropped from her coat.

      Noticing a poppy seller, she asked if she could have a pin. Karen was
      going to pin her poppy back onto her coat when the seller stopped her
      and asked if he could reposition it for her.

      “A lovely military man selling poppies stopped me today and asked if
      he could re-position mine – while doing so he told me that women should
      wear their poppy on their right side: the red represents the blood of
      all those who gave their lives; the black represents the mourning of
      those who didn’t have their loved ones return home; and the green leaf
      represents the grass and crops growing, and future prosperity after the
      war destroyed so much.

      side story: At the time of this encounter, 101-year-old Wally Randall Britain’s oldest poppy seller, was the gent who presented the information below).

      “The leaf should be positioned at 11 o’clock to represent the eleventh
      hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month, the time that World War
      One formally ended.

      “He was worried that younger generations wouldn’t understand this and
      his generation wouldn’t be around for much longer to teach them.”

      Karen added: “I’m really pleased to have learnt some things today that I
      didn’t know before, although I must admit I’ve spent a rather obsessive
      afternoon wanting to rearrange quite a few strangers’ poppies…”

      Karen has since tracked down the poppy seller to tell him how many
      people had read and shared his story, and added: “I do understand that
      many people have their own beliefs about how to wear the poppy and what
      it means to them, but I do also think it is important that we listen to
      and remember the stories of this older generation before they all leave

      I know there is a formality to wearing the poppy on a red background with the colors symbolizing different things. I once knew what they symbolized, the red background, the poppy with a black center, a stem of green, etc. I cannot recall and my Grandmother has passed years ago. She would have told me to remind me again. I noted the WW II Service of My father and Uncles in response to Laddie. Here I should remember my Grandfather, Harold Bell, WWI, Rainbow Division. He was a corpsman and witnessed the horror and survived, aiding the fallen wounded at most of the famous sites of the American participation in battle during the last 2 years.

      • berttheclock

        Terrific post. Also, it is worn on Remembrance Day in Canada.

        • Remembrance Day (Armistice Day in the US — now it is Veteran’s Day here in the US). I often go to Osborne cemetery here in Joplin and walk among the tombs, decorated with American Flags. There is a hill side within that is all military dead. Here my father lies and many others of adjacent and allied families. Over on the the other end of Joplin is Ozark where my grandfather is laid. — David

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Agree with a lot of your assessments. I will however, differ with you on Chesson and the DBs.

    Chesson was dealing with pretty awful QB play last year and that’s a major factor in why his 2015 season was so much better than his 16 season. Further, he’s an excellent run blocker and a major contributor on STs. Those are traits you look for in your depth WRs. Chesson is an excellent hands catcher and good at catching the ball in traffic. Hollins might be better some day, but he’s just size and traits right now, not a consistent hands catcher or a route runner. Hansen comes closer to me, but I think he will struggle initially with press coverage, where Chesson is already good at fighting through contact. The guy I really wanted was Josh Malone, but he was out of reach in the 4th and Hunt was a better pick in the third. I noticed you didn’t mention DeMarcus Robinson, but he’s been tearing it up at OTAs, most of us believe Albert Wilson is on his way out.

    As to DB, you neglect to mention Terrence Mitchell, who is almost certainly Chiefs primary CB across from Peters, not the oft-injured Gaines. You say Leon McQuay is a safety, and he did play there (and just about everywhere) in college, but Chiefs have indicated that they plan on using him at CB. Also, Chapelle, who you have listed at CB, played SS in college and doesn’t look to be explosive enough to play CB.

    • ladner morse

      I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see McQuay used in the slot covering tight ends like Antonio Gates. McQuay’s 6-foot-2 inch frame may come in handy dealing with some biggie-sized pass catchers.

      • Merlin

        I think that is his value. I don’t think he is fast enough to play outside CB

        • Chiefly Bacon

          Could be, but Terrence Mitchell isn’t any faster. CB is all about fluidity and instincts. Speed is just icing on the cake. Not saying I think McQuay will play on the outside. I agree he’s probably a big nickle, but I think he could if he’s smart enough. Definitely would be an off man CB though, not a press guy.

      • berttheclock

        He CAN NOT tackle.

    • tm1946

      More interesting because of his indepth knowledge. We have no idea about what we have or what we may have missed on. Mr Dorsey gets credit for at least trying. What more can we expect from the organization?

      Do I like some, not so much. Do I love some, a QBOFT is very lovable. I could be a more in love if I really thought there was some legitimate support for the 2017 season and this strange (in my opinion) fascination with a RB from Toledo or a second pick that no one knew how to pronounce his name, he was so famous , but what the heck do I know.

  • ladner morse

    My sister has had weight problems her whole life due to thyroid issues. Those issues have complicated the treatment of her Multiple Sclerosis for the past 22 years of her nursing home stay.

    Having grown up in the same grade with her as a skinny and athletic kid myself… and having called her my best friend for decades… to watch and hear others call her fat has been a lifelong injustice and bitter ongoing pain I hope no one ever has to repeat. It has also been apart of the advocacy and protection I have lived my life providing a safe classroom environment for all children.

    I wish this world was a better place and have sought to make it so. I’d like our site — “our” meaning all of us — to reflect those kinds of values and compassion for one another. Please be respectful in your communications about whatever subject we embrace each day.

    Yes, today is Memorial Day and if that’s not about our personal legacy… and the legacies of those who have before us… then what is it? Respecting those who have gone before… is best expressed in respecting those who are in the here and now.

    My Best to You and Yours,
    Laddie Morse

  • Chiefly Bacon

    “Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friend.” Today we remember those who gave their lives in the pursuit of freedom. Whatever our personal views of any military conflict, we must remember, that the soldier makes war for the sake of piece. It is not what we we do, or our degree of success that defines us, but the intentions of our hearts and the sacrifice offered in the name of those intentions. In this day and age, of political division and partisanship, we must not focus on the difference in our actions, but the similarities in our intentions, so that, united in common goal, we may seek restore this broken world to the state of beauty and love in which it was created.

    • ladner morse

      My father served in the Air Corp (pre-Air Force name) as a weather man in WWII. He was being trained to use radio equipment allowing him to communicate long distance so that they could be air-dropped into rural Japan which would allow him to share critical weather info and allow the US to plan their air strikes. 85% of the weather men who took this mission prior to my father… never came back alive. Two weeks prior to his deployment, Truman ordered the Atomic-bomb be dropped on Hiroshima followed three days later on Nagasaki and consequently, the war soon came to an end… and my father was held back… and saved.

      • Uncle Norman Kay, USA, New Guinea to Okinawa(later, Korea and then Vietnam). Uncle Glenn, Mitchell Tail Gunner – 38 missions out of Africa and Italy(well beyond catch 22), so Air Corp. Dad? Ditto. 393rd Radar group, 509th Air Composite. All three are deceased now, Glenn last summer. Both flunked out of fighter Pilot training at Uvalde. They gave Dad Radar school and he then went to Wendover with the formation o the 509th, flew over the water at Cuba(photo of he, Wendell Lathrop, Paul Metro(Radar Echoes Editor) and AJ Jones at Sloppy Joes in Habana. Seriously, I miss these men. Lathrop and my Dad were friends for life and Dad and Paul Petro kept in contact until Ed’s death in 2000.

        I suggest that these men are honored by family and friends and that goes on here locally and in Frisco and Elsewhere. Norman Kay passed in Texas. Don’t know about AJ Jones but Metro was still living last I knew. I had every copy of Radar Echoes until the Tornado in May 2011 swept all that I had away. These men in that photo were commanded by Jacob Bezer–the man who returned to the states to deliver the arming mechanisms while the weapons themselves were delivered by the USS Indianapolis.

        Today, at The HOUSE Inc( we have approximately 75 Veterans of 160 clients at any one time — Veterans, disabled, Jobless, Homeless and Alcoholic and Addicted), we all, all of us this morning, honored our nation’s fallen. A P-38, P40 and 2 or 3 P-41’s flew over the compound. Kewl Day. — David.

    • tm1946

      Excellent write up. Sometimes even veterans forget. But we are in a different era, now. Not better or worse but different. At 70, you accept it or else. Like Gen. MacArthur said about a different generation – old soldiers never die, they just fad away.

    • freshmeat62

      John 15:13

  • berttheclock

    With this Memorial Day long week end, TCM has been showing many older war movies. So, it was a delight to see “No Time For Sergeants” once again with Andy Griffith. I wonder how many remember Andy’s great radio account of his time at North Caroline trying to tell others about what he had witnessed while viewing the players on the football field. Classic take. “What is was was called football”.

    Trivia about “NTFS” was the fact Don Knotts knew Griffith in NYC and begged him for a part in the movie, which had begun as a TV special, then, a Broadway play. Griffith was able to have the writers find a part for Knotts and following that they became best friends to the point Griffith made sure he included Knotts to play Barney on the long running hit show.

    One other favorite war movie TCM replayed yesterday was “Mr Roberts”. Tremendous cast and a great movie. Fulminated mercury in the laundry room.

  • berttheclock

    As I have mentioned older movies, may I say something about “Tootsie”. There is as tie-in of a sort to this day. In the movie, Charles Durning, the late great character actor played the father who fell in love with Toosie, not knowing Tootsie was actually a man. Durning played many other roles in quality films, including playing the Governor in “Oh Brother, Where art thou” and a detective of sorts in “The Sting”. I, once, had the pleasure of seeing him live in LA playing the lead in “On Golden Pond”. But, the tie-in to this day is the fact he came off a landing craft on D-Day at Normandie. The young soldier in front him was killed and the young soldier behind him was killed. Many soldiers from that landing craft never even reached the beach, but, somehow Mr Durning made it through that day and many to follow. Pure luck of the draw, but, every time I see him in a movie role, that fact goes through my head.

    Sometimes when I am at the VA, the expression of “Thank you for your service” becomes a bit of a cliche. But, Mr Durning and all of your generation, “Thanks for your service”.

  • ladner morse

    Some names to be remembered who have passed just this year:

    • Tommy Allsup, guitarist best known for missing the plane crash that killed Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and the Big Bopper on “The Day the Music Died,” died Jan. 12 at 85.
    • “Magic Alex” Mardas, psychedelic artist, early Apple Corps. employee and Beatles “guru,” died Jan. 13 at 74.
    • Gene Cernan, last U.S. astronaut to walk on the moon, died Jan. 16 at 82.
    • Loalwa Braz, Brazilian singer known for 1989 hit “Lambada” with Koama, found dead at age 63 in a burnt-out car near Rio De Janeiro on Jan. 19.
    • Miguel Ferrer, actor in “Twin Peaks,” “NCIS: Los Angeles” and “RoboCop,” died Jan. 19 of cancer at age 61.
    • Ronald “Bingo” Mundy, The Marcels singer best known for doo-wop hit “Blue Moon,” died Jan. 20 at 76.
    • Yordano Ventura, Kansas City Royals pitcher, and former MLB baseball player Andy Marte both died Jan. 22 in separate car crashes in the Dominican Republic. Ventura was 25 and Marte was 33.
    • Mary Tyler Moore, iconic actress best known for roles on “The Dick Van Dyke Show” and “The Mary Tyler Moore Show,” died Jan. 25 at 80.
    • Mike Connors, best known for playing TV’s “Mannix,” died Jan. 26 at 91.
    • Barbara Hale, played Della Street on ‘Perry Mason,’ died 1/26 at 94.
    • John Hurt, Oscar-nominated actor in ‘The Elephant Man,’ ‘1984,’ ‘Harry Potter’ and ‘V for Vendetta,’ died Jan. 27 at 77.
    • Frank Pellegrino, actor in “The Sopranos” “Goodfellas,” died Jan. 31 at 72.
    • Richard Hatch, “Battlestar Galactica” star, died Feb. 7 at 71 after a battle with cancer.
    • Al Jarreau, Grammy-winning jazz singer, died Feb. 12 at 76.
    • Peter Skellern, ‘You’re a Lady’ singer turned priest in England, died 2/17 at 69.
    • Warren Frost, actor on ‘Twin Peaks’ and ‘Seinfeld,’ died Feb. 17 at 91.
    • Bill Paxton, actor in “Apollo 13,” “Aliens,” “Titanic” and “Twister,” died Feb. 25 of complications from heart surgery at age 61.
    • Neil Fingleton, UK’s tallest man at 7’7″ and actor on “Game of Thrones” and “Avengers: Age of Ultron,” died Feb. 25 of heart failure at age 36.
    • Joseph Wapner, real-life judge on “The People’s Court” died Feb. 26 at 97.
    • Robert Osborne, TMC host and film historian, died March 6 at 84.
    • Joni Sledge, “We Are Family” Sister Sledge, died March 10 at 60.
    • Chuck Berry, rock and roll legend behind hits “Johnny B. Goode,” “Roll Over Beethoven” and “Maybelline,” died March 18 at 90.
    • Chuck Barris, “The Gong Show” host-creator and producer of “The Dating Game,” died March 21 at 87.
    • Sib Hashian, drummer for the band Boston’s first two albums including the 1976 hit ‘More Than a Feeling,’ died March 22 after collapsing on stage on a rock cruise ship.
    • Darlene Cates, actress who played Johnny Depp and Leonardo DiCaprio’s mother in “What’s Eating Gilbert Grape,” died March 26 at 69.
    • Don Rickles, king of insult comedy, died April 6 at age 90.
    • J. Geils, “Centerfold” guitarist and founder of the J. Geils Band, died April 11 at 71.
    • Dorothy Mengering, David Letterman’s mom and “The Late Show” contributor, died April 11 at 95.
    • Bruce Langhorne, guitarist and Bob Dylan collaborator who inspired “Mr. Tambourine Man” song, died April 14 at 78.
    • Jonathan Demme, Oscar-winning “The Silence of the Lambs” director and concert filmmaker for Justin Timberlake, Talking Heads and more, died April 26 at 73.
    • Roger Moore, actor who played James Bond in seven movies, died May 23 at age 89.


    • Laurels and limitations

      Chris Cornell of Soundgarden. One of my favorite singers and musicians.

  • Like you Laddie, I had a draft of mocking the misses, and I did not even have a QB in round 1. Hunt was on my list but in round 4. Go that way or this, when I review the draft and all the potentials, I would have got my RB but had a defensive draft and if I could get Webb in round 3 or 4 I would have pulled that trigger. I see the point in trading up, but if I was to say that I would trade up it would have been to get the top LB or one of the two. Dorsey knows football and knows players so my whole concept did not come to fruition in this defensive player laden draft. So: Tonah and Eligwe are going to surprise us all I think. I don’t think Hunt is going to be a surprise. I think he will fulfill via promising talent the role which he was hired to get done, he will do it out of the gate so to speak. We will have to wait on PH. I am sure L&L is pleased as punch still.

    • ladner morse

      Yeah, I would have gone for a RB early then waited until later to take Webb if I could get him. His arm is just as strong as Mahomes and he may not be as accurate but he’s a gym rat with a lot of upside.

      • he’s also an early film junkie and that says a lot. mechanics can be resolved by the system and coaching vis a vis accuracy.