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CB Will Redmond, 23 years old, 5-foot-11

  • Drafted in the 3rd round (68th overall) by the 49ers in the 2016 draft
  • Was on my list of players I hoped the Chiefs would draft
  • Todd McShay said of Redmond prior to the draft:”excellent quickness and agility, which is why he gives up little separation in man-to-man coverage.”
  • Redmond missed all of 2016 with an ACL and is yet to appear in an NFL game.

 

Could Redmond be another Reggie Ragland? Looks like Brett Veach may have made the only move he could afford.

 

 

 

 

I can hear the meeting following the 5th game of the season now:

Andy: “Bob, I want you to suck for a few games. Don’t get upset. The AFC West has turned into a cake walk — and you know how much I like cake — so I need you to call some schemes that will make us look like we have a bad defense.”

Bob: “But why Andy why?”

Andy: “Trust me. When the playoffs come they’ll never be able to scheme for us because we won’t play the same ole sucky ball we’ll be playing. What do you think?”

Bob: “Andy, you truly are a genius.”..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • berttheclock

    Will Raymond, you say, eh? Another former HS QB, who was the QB for his high school team which was featured in the documentary, “Undefeated”. Turned into an excellent college DB. But, he tore his ACL in 2015. Then, after being drafted by the Niners, he hurt his knee in 2016 and was placed on IR. Trying to make it through camp in 2017, he injured his ankle, so, he was placed on an injury list, but, cut two months later by the Niners. So, Laddie, he has had 3 injuries in 3 years.

    Good luck with the Chiefs because when he was healthy at Mississippi State, he could shadow receivers like a glove.

    Meanwhile, the Pats improved their team by picking up Martellus Bennett off waivers.

    • tm1946

      So we signed a young former QB to be a CB to join the practice squad… but walking wounded most of career…. does this qualify as re-enforcements?

      • berttheclock

        In “F Troop”, it would.

  • berttheclock

    I still maintain that trying to predict the future of any team heading towards the playoffs is akin to being on a fool’s errand. Look at Seattle. They had begun to look as though they had turned their season around and they did pull out a win last night in Arizona, but, they lost Richard Sherman to an achilles tear. This is a major problem facing anyone trying to predict the future. Injuries could derail any number of teams heading towards January.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      I set my recorder for 3 hours and 40 minutes last night. There were so many injuries and penalties in that game I missed the end of the game.

      • berttheclock

        Gonna come down to Survival of the Luckiest.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          Yep, there were 3 Seahawks injured and ruled out of last nights game before Sherman got hurt. He was never ruled out but remained questionable to return.

  • berttheclock

    BTW, that PFF All Rookie Team is made up of 5 1st rounders, one 2nd, 4 3rds and 1 5th rounder.

  • tm1946

    If those quotes were you being a fly on the wall…. you are one sick puppy…. I like it, welcome to the darker side.

    As for the kid….is he for this year or next?

  • PaulFromNorthMo

    If Reid and especially Clark Hunt wants to make the Chiefs a contender for years to come, which I think they do with the way they have drafted, we need a change to our defensive philosophy. My first choice as DC would be Michael Barrow, LB coach for Seattle. I really like the aggressive play and especially the way they wrap up to tackle instead of just going for the hit.

    • berttheclock

      GREAT choice. In 2003, he made 103 tackles for the NY Giants. He totaled 1125 tackles and 43 sacks for his NFL career.

      What I like about his resume is when he retired from the NFL, he first went back to his old high school to learn how to coach. Then, he jumped to his alma mater, Miami, to become both a LB and STs coach.

      • PaulFromNorthMo

        We would be lucky to get him as our DC, and if we did it probably wouldn’t be for long. Hopefully long enough to change our culture on the defensive side. I would guess other teams will be looking at him for a HC before too many years pass.

        • berttheclock

          The Seahawks have already promoted him to assistant coach, as well. He is a comer.

    • ladner morse

      Don’t know if Barrow has an eye for guys who can already wrap up and tackle before they come to the NFL but the Chiefs must place an emphasis there one way or the other. Don’t know what the percentages are, but it’s been noted before that an increasing number of ex-LBs are moving into HC positions so if Barrow has that capability, I’d be in favor of a DC transition first.

      Unless the second half of the season shows a big turnaround for the D, you’d have to hope Reid has the gumption to make a move at DC this coming offseason.

      • PaulFromNorthMo

        As was stated recently (maybe by you?), Reid stays too loyal, especially to his coaches. Personally I would like to see changes at DC and at OL coach. Reid might hesitate, but other owners have forced those types of changes in the past.

        • berttheclock

          I even question Al Harris as the D-back top assistant.

          • berttheclock

            For example, prior to the Denver game, I read a report which noted 4 former DCs had evaluated the problems the Broncos were having. All of them said Siemian takes a hitch prior to throwing to his left. He had been picked off a week before by a D-Back jumping his pass to the left. So, they suggested for future games, other DBs should do the same. However, even though Denver had proclaimed they were going to go to Thomas more on the left side, Harris had Acker play off.

      • berttheclock

        Another former LB is currently the LB coach for the Texans. Remember him passing through KC after leaving the Pats? He will be moved upwards, as well.

        • Frank Rodela

          Vrabel? He is the DC in Houston now, with Crennel being elevated to Assistant Head Coach

  • PaulFromNorthMo

    It’s kinda hard to buy into that conspiracy theory when that’s been Sutton’s D all along. Bend, bend, bend and then try not to break.

    • berttheclock

      Reminds me of the tale of “The Oak and the Willow” from a French philosopher. The Oak and the Willow argued about standing tall as opposed to bending to the wind. A hurricane came and uprooted the Oak,whereas, the Willow, after bending, stood straight.

      But, for myself, at times the defense appears to have some of the aspects of suffering from “The Bends”, especially, in the areas of dizziness and paralysis.

      • PaulFromNorthMo

        Although my experience might be with a different species of Oak and a different Willow, even though the Oak may uproot and topple, it pretty much stays intact. The Willow, while bending and staying mostly upright (willows aren’t very good at standing straight), a lot of individual pieces break off and lay scattered around.

        • berttheclock

          In the PNW, high winds down many a tall fir. The reason being that there is so much moisture during the off seasons, they do not have to set long tap roots, but, tend to spread their base atop the clay soil. So, when, you see an uprooted tree, you will always see a very large outspread base, but, no tap root. Plus, once the clay gets overly saturated, the top layer can slide away down slopes bringing trees and mud. This has happened a great deal to block the BNSF’s right of way between Olympia and Seattle.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            I’ve seen a lot of very high straight line winds and even some tornadic activity, but a Burr Oak will almost never go down unless weakened by disease, or weakened by another force of Mother Nature, such as a lightning strike.

  • yeah. he was the CB I was trying to recall yesterday. Attrition. Each season is made up of teams facing attrition. Another achilles. Somone has to be looking hard at what to do to prevent this epidemic.

    The Chiefs health is on the upside going to their 10th game of the season. Aside from Berry and Conley(lost for the season), the Chiefs status is looking good.

    I like the addition of Redmond. Laddie notes he was on his ‘draft list’ as he was on mine. Don’t have a current stat report on his recovery. Would like to know that. He is not the only rookie that was hurt and released. shows great promise–as long as h is not another Sanders.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Yeah, injuries have plagued him even back at Miss St. I read where some had a late 1st round grade on him if he could stay healthy, but so far his pro career has been spent on the IR. Hopefully that’s just been bad luck to this point.

      • berttheclock

        Todd McShay gave him that rating.

    • berttheclock

      Very strange injury as he stretched out to make a tackle. Did not see how his foot had planted. Sometimes, as with Berry and others, you might see the turf give way. Several minutes prior to that play, he flew up from the outside to drop Peterson for a loss on the outside.

      • at first i thought he made the tackle and dropped, heel to his diaphram. Then I Saw him reaching for his ankle. Sad news these injuries

        • berttheclock

          Did you see several of the Wilson scrambles? Looked like the defense was trying to stop a flea on the move.

          • drives me nuts. th 4th q td broke the card’s back. I thought Stanton stayed steady. He is still over throwing but he stuck it out. lots of dropped balls.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Interesting piece by Matt Miller over at BR. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2743367-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-is-this-the-worst-draft-class-of-the-decade He says the upcoming 2018 draft class is almost as bad as the 2013 draft. Perhaps Chiefs had this in mind when they traded off some 2018 picks.

    • berttheclock

      Strange groupings for 2013. The fellows from the 1st round who went to the Pro Bowl were taken at 5, 13, 18, 20, 21, 22, 23, 27, 29 and 31. In the 2nd round, there were such as Kawann Short, Le’Veon Bell, Jamie Collins and Eddie Lacey. In the 3rd, Travis Kelce, Bennie Logan, Tyrann Mathieu, Keenan Allen, Jordan Reed and, perhaps, for some interesting moments Knile Davis.

      Miller suggests the strength of the 2018 draft will lie more in the 2nd tier with possible pickups in the 3rd tier. As he noted, QBs will go higher than many of them are worth early on, only due to the need by GMs to not pass on any QB who is breathing. So, some quality will pass into the 2nd round.

      One thing which has hurt the promise of a better draft is the injury bug has even struck college ball.

    • tm1946

      If that were the case, we could trade more picks for a CB to help this year and piss 2018 draft away.

      • Chiefly Bacon

        Trouble is, good CBs are rarely for sale. Only CB traded at the deadline was Rashard Robinson, and he wasn’t anything marvelous.

  • berttheclock

    I really hate to have to type another RIP, but, the great John Hillerman just passed away. Many will remember him as the supposed Brit owner in “Magnum PI”, but, I remember the Texas born and bred actor for playing a sheriff in Atchison, Kansas, trying to stop the O’Neal’s (Ryan and Tatum) who played characters running cons across Kansas. The sheriff chased them to St Joe. That excellent movie filmed in Kansas and parts of Missouri was “Paper Moon”. Great opening scene which was filmed outside of Hays, Kansas really depicted how flat most of Kansas happens to be.

    So, R. I. P. Mr Hillerman.

    • Delaware Chief

      Thanks for sharing that information Bert,I am a big Magnum PI fan and even watched an old episode the day Mr. Hillerman or “Higgy Baby” died as they sometimes called him on the show. Didn’t know that until I saw your post

  • Message attn! Veach and Reid — you cannot leave Redmond on the PS. He will get snatched. — end of message.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Who do we move?

      • aCKER

        • Homer Dave

          there is no one PAST Acker to play according to the Mothership. I can remember when Sutton had to play Safeties in place of CBs because KC ran out of the little guys. Let’s not get crazy here, no matter HOW much Acker sucks at the NFL level.

          • not true. Mitchell outside, Nelson inside. Bring Redmond forward. He is probably undergoing evaluation and familiarization. Gaines nor Acker are doing anything to help the defense. Hire Howard to shore up against the run. Peters, Redmond outside — that has got to be the intent of the signing. We have 2 weeks to get him ready so to speak. Then you have Peters, Redmond, Mitchell and Nelson. Back of that, Parker, Sorensen and Murray. We subtract who is not helping and add pieces that will make a difference, With steven Terrell on the active Roster. McQuay is on th PS as is Reaser(3rd yr pro). This can be done, w shore up run defense 1st and 2nd down. There is one more F/A DL out there, I think he was with the Dolphins. Top notch, but not signed. But that is bigger money. Howard knows the Def & Sutton’s schemes. He would be a huge benefit to the run defense. that’s my view.

          • I had to go looking on the other DL and there is a safety also(or 2)…. Aaron Williams, F/A S. Bills is available. Worked out with the Chiefs back in Sept. — the DL is Ra’Shede Hageman but he had dom. violence charges. Suspension lifted by the NFL. Don’t know the status on the charge. It was the Falcons not the Dolphins.

          • Homer Dave

            Lol, who is Redmond!? (rhetorical, please don’t answer). I’m not sure about Howard either, is he even healthy? Plus, KC let him go, as did Chicago, for a reason.

      • Chiefly Bacon

        Jordan Devey. OL is healthy now, we don’t need him.

      • Homer Dave

        easier to move mountains than to make a splash move right now…and mountains would be cheaper to move at that. I’m not saying that there are not better alternatives out there than what KC has on the roster but I AM saying that no one is going to be brought in and be a world beater.

    • MESSAGE TO Veach: There are two meaningful DL who are very good against the run available. Jaye Howard knows the defense, and should be economically acquired to go with our existing Front 3 plus 2 existing for dpth. Who to release? Does it matter? Phillip Gaines.

      We got Redmond. Add Jaye on 1st and 2nd down and go from there. Is there a safety worth picking up?

      • ladner morse

        David… LOVE that idea!