K.C. Chiefs and the Saturday Sum Up!

 

 

 

Hi guys, sorry for the leave of absence. I have had a lot of things going on in the past couple weeks but it is good to be back. The past week was a tough one for Chiefs fans everywhere. The way that game with Oakland ended may go as one of the worst games I can remember for a long time. We can get to that more in a bit. Here it is. Your Saturday Sum Up!

 

Hunt-ing For Records

Another week has gone by and another record for our rookie back. Kareem Hunt has been churning out yards since the first time he suited up in the magnificent red and gold of our beloved Kansas City Chiefs. With this latest outing against the Oakland Raiders Kareem has added another notch in his belt and another tally in the record books. He has become just the second rookie to surpass 1000 yards from scrimmage in the first 7 games of his career. This would have been more than enough for anyone else, but apparently Hunt wasn’t finished with his record setting ways just yet. He also managed to turn in 117 yards on the day thus extending his own record to be the first player in NFL history to surpass 100 yards from scrimmage in 7 straight games. With his current production he would be on pace to topple the 2500 yard mark by the end of the season. This is all coming from a rookie that no one had heard of, from a college that is often overlooked by pundits. I guarantee that not a single one of you, me included, would have ever thought that this running back from Toledo would have come in and set the world on fire. I have had high hopes for Hunt ever since he was drafted but nothing like this. We may be seeing history in the making. The only hope is that he doesn’t turn into a one hit wonder like Trent Richardson. No matter what happens in the future, lets enjoy the present, enjoy the ride, and watch the records pile up!

 

The Oakland Meltdown

I know, I know, I know. We have rehashed this mess time and time again. I remember the outcome of the game and being so mad about it that I had to log off before I was moderated into oblivion. After having a week to mellow out and cool down the one word that comes to mind when I think of that game is “INEPT”. Call it what you will but good teams win close games. Inept playcalling kept us one dimensional. Inept coaching allowed a clearly overmatched Oakland team to stay in a game that should have been put away long before the overtime fiasco. Inept defense allowed the Raiders to throw at will for huge chunks of yards. Inept offense would not move the ball and control the clock. We did not deserve to win that game, and if we had it would have been a gift from the almighty above. Now I know some will point to the refs and say that they were biased. Some will say that they took away a legitimate turnover, or that they saw ghost interference or holding calls. Or some will say that they blatantly ignored would be penalties that would go in the Chiefs favor. I agree, the officiating of the game was absolute garbage, both ways. I Remember thinking to myself a couple times during that game “Wow, we got away with that one”. Good teams win regardless of the officials. We were not a good team then. We were absolute garbage and I think the main reason it upset me so much was that I knew we were better. I knew we could beat the Raiders. I knew we would be leaving Oakland with a smile on our faces asking who’s next. Now we have been given a long week, almost a bye week, to prepare for the Broncos on Monday night. I can forgive our guys for the Oakland meltdown, count it up to a short week and poor execution, but if we come out with the same mess of a game plan against Denver? Well then I may be calling for some serious answers come Tuesday morning.

 

Moving Mahomes

Some one the other day sent me a link on Facebook. Like any piece of Chiefs news I get, I immediately open it up and begin reading. This link was to a Twitter post by Sporting News that said the Kansas City Chiefs should trade Patrick Mahomes. Like any stupid article I latch on with every fiber of my being. Trade Patrick Mahomes? Who would think that is a good idea? It took the Chiefs the better part of my lifetime to select a quarterback in the first round. Surely someone must be high? So who would they even suggest a trade to? THE CLEVELAND BROWNS. Wow. The only way I could ever see this trade happening is if maybe Mahomes stole Reid’s last slice of pizza and this was the only way Andy could think to punish him properly. I mean you don’t just take the last slice, especially if you didn’t even put in on the pie man. Alright some guy is spouting moronic garbage just to make himself heard. No-one on this site would ever do that…… (crickets, crickets) Ok fine I do that, on a regular basis, and twice on Tuesdays, but I swear it wasn’t me. But get this, they said we should trade our first round pick, Patrick Mahomes, for DeShone Kizer (The guy the Browns, yes the Cleveland Browns, benched in favor of his backup) and an ancient (in football years) Jason McCourty. No extra picks, no financial relief, nothing. Just a straight up trade. This guy would have had to of sat down and thought to himself, “You know what the Browns need? A better quarterback! Who is a good quarterback that isn’t starting right now? How about that Mahomes feller? He should be pretty good. But what would they get in return? How about the Browns quarterback? The poor bastard. He is never going to have a chance playing in Cleveland. But Kansas City will never agree to a straight up trade, how to sweeten the pot? I know toss in McCourty. He has a good year left in him.” That is the only way I can think that this guys train of thought would operate. So he would have to think that Kizer and McCourty are worth TWO first round picks. TWO! Now I can mash my arm stumps into the keyboard as good as the next guy but no way in hell would I have ever thought about that trade. Either someone has too much time on their hands or like I said earlier, maybe they were just to high to realize what they were writing.

 

There we have it guys! Thanks for reading. Comment below and let me know if there is anything you would like me to write about. As always VIVA LA JET SWEEP and GO CHIEFS!

 

 

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  • Homer Dave

    worst part is, the -trade Mahomes- wagon actually gained a little traction. Inept, obtuse, cold taek if there ever were any.

    • berttheclock

      You, of all people would truly understand obtuse, eh? Keep up the good work of picking up tweets at other places and posting them as some “great” insight.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        Come on guys….let’s not turn this place into AA…..in the words of the great band WAR

        Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh
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        La, la, la, la, la, la
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        Why can’t we be friends
        Why can’t we be friends
        Why can’t we be friends
        Why can’t we be friends.

        • tm1946

          Was a favorite of my platoon, used to blare it all the time. Irritated me more than VC probably.

      • Homer Dave

        You’re too easy bert, I truly thought it would be more difficult to make you go all defensive. Bend, don’t break, buddy.

  • berttheclock

    John, I happened to suggest trading Mahomes II at this site. Now, where did I come up with the idea in the first place? I was sitting at the bar of Dee’s Bar in Portland speaking with a friend of mine. He is from Garnett, Kansas and has been a Chiefs’ fan since the time of Aaron Brown reeking havoc against Joe Kapp in Super Bowl IV. He happens to be chemist who graduated from K-State.

    I mentioned the possible trade of Alex Smith at the end of the year and asked him which team might deal with the Chiefs for him. He shocked me by replying that Mahomes II should be traded instead as Smith still has quality years ahead of him and the Chiefs could find his replacement further down the road.

    After thinking about this, it started making legitimate sense. The trade up for Mahomes II cost the Chiefs far too much money which really hurt the Cap. Plus, it denied gaining players the Chiefs really needed, especially at corner back and/or LB. Yes, picking up Hunt was a home run for Dorsey. But, Dorsey really hurt the Chiefs by trading away the 91st pick and the important 1st next year. The Chiefs are aging at crucial spots and need to rebuild. The loss of the first pick will dent that important moves. So, trading a young Mahomes II for high picks would be very beneficial. Without that, you will have a young gun slinger trying to win with a defense heading south. This is a complete team concept and no young gun slinging QB is going to ever lead a team to victory on his own.

    At no time did I ever think about trading Mahomes II to Cleveland. Plus, I never much of Kizer in the first place as he demonstrated serious mechanical flaws in college.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      “The Kansas City Chiefs reportedly will entertain trade offers for starting quarterback Alex Smith after the 2017 season, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.”

      Well I guess that’s that………It will be a sad day for me when Alex is no longer a Chief, I’m not sold on Mahomes like most seem to be, I’m worried he is going to be an INT machine.
      Bright side is he and Robinson seemed to be finding a connection….I suppose that bodes well for the future.
      I rewatched the preseason Chiefs/Titans game a couple of days ago……..I know he is still young, but I shudder at the idea of him leading this team.
      Oh well as Bobby V once said, Que Sera Sera.

    • ladner morse

      Garnett Kansas eh?
      I knew it had to come from the Kansas side of the border. Hehe

    • Heilios

      Now I will say this Bert. I would certainly entertain offers for Mahomes. Because at the end of the day it is a team sport and if we could greatly improve the team by moving one player then it should be considered. What was really laughable was moving Mahomes for Kizer and a 30 year old defensive player. But if we could recoup a 1st and a mid round pick plus a player who could contribute right now at an elite level we would be remiss not to consider it. I get that the Chiefs have been on a first round QB drought for years but with how Alex is playing we could keep moving with him for the foreseeable future. Quarterbacks now are playing into their 40 s. Smith knows the offense and finally has stability in coaching. This could go of for the next 5-8 years with him. Anything is possible and we very well could go to the big game with Smith at the helm with some defensive help. The question is what trade would work to make us more competitive now and push us over the top for a super bowl run now.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    There’s a reason big trades rarely happen in the NFL. Talented Veterans who teams are willing to move on from are usually near the end of their contracts, so, if another team wants them, they can just wait. Talented rookies on cheap contracts are rarely traded because they are the lifeblood of NFL teams. Frankly, if you’re looking for a reason to believe Chiefs made the right move in trading up for Mahomes, look no further than Philly. Their move up for Carson Wentz is paying off in a big way.

    • tm1946

      Only…. Wentz played rather quickly, they did not have an Alex in front of him, and with a new HC, willing to lose some to gain some…. Not sure Mahomes is like Wentz is a good comparison.

      • Chiefly Bacon

        Wentz played quickly, but he wasn’t really good till his 2nd year. If Smith had been playing the way he’s played this year, maybe Chiefs don’t draft Mahomes, but that’s hindsight bias. Before this year, Chiefs had a QB who looked like he couldn’t win the big games. The last time he actually looked cut out to win a SB was when he had Kaepernick breathing down his neck.

        • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

          Your last line is a very good point.

        • tm1946

          No one is breathing down Wentz’s back. They just do not compare to me.

          • Chiefly Bacon

            Exact comparisons are hard to come by in a diverse world. I could point to Rogers sitting behind Farve, but GB didn’t trade up for him. I can point to the value that a rookie QB can give to a team with Wentz or Russel Wilson, but neither of those teams had established starters. The point is, having a talented rookie QB can often drive teams from good to great.

          • tm1946

            But you never know until they do it. Right kid, wrong system. Right kid, wrong coach, wrong kid, wrong team….. Archie Manning seemed to have it all and look at his career. Suspect it happens all the time at most positions.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Carson Wentz reminds me more of Alex Smith than Patrick Mahomes as far as motions, decisions and tendencies.

      • Chiefly Bacon

        Seems like Wentz throws deep a lot more than Smith. Also willing to make more risky throws.

        • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

          True….I would have to confirm, but I think Alex is the last QB standing with no INTs.

  • tm1946

    Do not blame the KC Star for the trade idea (really?). I had read it before on the internet, yahoo. Original thought is somewhat limited this day and age.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    The Texans owner comments, during owners meetings, bring up one of my pet peeves: people not understanding how analogies work. For example, if you say “finding a good man is like finding a needle in haystack”. It doesn’t mean you think good men have anything in common with needles. Or that ordinary men have anything in common with haystacks. You are comparing relationships not the individual components of the analogy. While it was unwise to use the “inmates running the prison” analogy in today’s society, it should in no way imply that the owner thinks of the players as inmates.

    • tm1946

      Multiple answers – by me -.

      Owners, really rich guys who seem dumber than a bag of hammers sometimes.

      Players, went to college but doubt many could pass a entrance exam or paper if they could not ball.

      But that is enough political for today. Got real concerns because I have spent a lot of free time over the last 40+ years with the NFL and not sure how much more is coming.

      • Chiefly Bacon

        NFL definitely has some complicated issues to deal with, and fans of various political affiliations seem loathe to cut the NFL much slack. Can’t make everybody happy.

        • tm1946

          38 degrees this morning, I could be a lot happier if I could play golf today without wearing a parka…. still going to play anyway but could be a lot happier.

          • freshmeat62

            38…I wish! It was 28 here outside Knob this morning…but my tomatoes still look alive! Yeaaa!

          • tm1946

            My wife has decided my garden is done…. we turn green tomatoes into relish….

          • freshmeat62

            Me too, piccalilli.

          • tm1946

            Better Homes and us call it vegetable relish – probably tastes about the same.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            I was wearing an Oakland A’s short sleeve Tee at 5:30 this morning out here in Ca….lol
            The weather is the one thing that makes putting up with all the other total BS out here on the West Coast bearable.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            Ah golf…….such a love/hate relationship I have with that enjoyable wretched sport!

          • tm1946

            Bad shot – I hate golf
            Bad Shot – I hate golf
            Good Shot – I love golf
            Bad shot – I hate golf

            or

            Toby Keith’s Shitty Golfer – on youtube (or whatever it is called)

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            Haha! Perfect analogy.

          • tm1946

            Stole the top from a picture over the men’s toilet in the club house. The song is just me.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            Something in my swing causes me to pull left…….I don’t slice, just nice straight pretty shots into the left rough.
            I don’t get why. I’ve tried stepping up on the ball with no luck.
            Only my woods…….I can pitch with my irons nice and straight.
            It’s frustrating.

          • tm1946

            Loosen back hand…take your front arm and make the club shaft match the straight line of your arm (your front arm is straight). I go right, not slice but right… that helps me. On fairway woods, might be using a baseball swing. Have a partner look how you draw back the club and follow thru. Suggestions, probably mean nothing but it is worth what I charged you for it.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Over the last 17 years, an Andy Reid led team has drafted a QB in the first round one time. This year. I don’t think Reid has any thought of letting Mahomes go. The last time Reid drafted a QB in the first round was 1999. Donnovan McNabb.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Just out of curiosity, doesn’t McNabb count?

      • Chiefly Bacon

        There have been 17 drafts since 1999. If I said the last 18 years I would have included McNabb. Basic point is, it’s been a long time since Reid drafted a QB in the first.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          Gotcha, that one slipped right by me!!

          • Chiefly Bacon

            No worries 🙂

  • PaulFromNorthMo

    On draft day, I wasn’t in favor of drafting a QB. Like many, I was wanting to shore up our defense. But what happened is now water under the bridge, we have a QBOTF and I would bet about anything that he is here to stay,
    I have changed my stance somewhat and I’m actually looking forward to Mahomes playing. Even as good as AS11 is playing this year, there are a number of instances where his limitations show. The first drive against Houston is the one that really sticks in my head. We have the ball in the red zone on 3rd down, Smith is standing at about the 22-23 yard line with a defender coming at him. Smith has an open throwing lane to a wide open Kelce in the end zone. Smith throws the pass falling back, and the ball hits the turf at the 2! We settle for a field goal.
    A QB with a strong arm, like Rodgers, Stafford, Wentz or Pat Mahomes completes that pass for a TD.

  • freshmeat62

    I was upset w/ the drafting of Mahomes originally, not because I didn’t think he was good, because I thought he was probably the best of that class, but because I too thought they gave up too much to get him. This years class was suppose to be so much better.

    Well, after watching several games this year involving USC, Okie St, UCLA, and Oklahoma, and watching Mahomes in preseason, I now think Dorsey made the right choice. Of the 4 mentioned above Baker Mayfield, to me, looks like a winner. I know most have him rated below the other QB’s, but this guy reminds me of Prescott at Dallas, and Wilson at Seattle. The others don’t impress me. OK the UCLA win over TX A&M was impressive…I’ll give that.

    Every preseason game Mahomes played, he had command of the field, and made plays. Now some are going to argue that these were preseason games, against mostly 2nd and 3rd string players, but I argue that the college QB’s mentioned are playing against college players. Not players that have been selected to be possibly good enough to play professionally.

    Now when I first saw bert and others come up w/ the idea of possibly trading Mahomes, I didn’t dismiss it w/o giving it a little thought. If the Chiefs could get their draft picks back, and maybe a little more, ehhh maybe. But after considering what is available this year compared to what I saw of Mahomes, I’ll keep Mahomes. I think this kid is going to be really good. Also several of us here have been saying how well Dorsey/Reid, and I assume Veach was involved also, did in drafting in the later rds.

    Now I would like to know who wanted to make that Cleveland trade so that when I see his byline, I can skip it and won’t waste my time reading his stuff.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      Well said!

    • tm1946

      Something called “Sporting News” on internet, Yahoo. Caused such a stir has been deleted…. according to internet KC Star. Could not find it again.

  • Heilios

    I am actually just happy that we are having a lot of comments and posts regarding my article. I know many are outright against moving Mahomes and some are against moving Smith. I actually like both and was very happy with Smith coming over from the dumpster fire that is San Francisco. The question we have to ask ourselves is what are we willing to do to win the super bowl this year? Will what we do this year affect us becoming repeat champions? Would you trade away Mahomes to win the next Superbowl? What about the next 3? Its all about give and take. Would you rather hold Mahomes and trade Smith to a QB needy team for future picks or trade for defensive help now and roll with Patrick for the rest of the season. With the trade deadline approaching it is possible we see a move in the near future. If I had to bet though I would expect us to stand with our current quarterbacks and Mahomes isn’t going anywhere, we may look for some defensive backfield help though. I am not firmly against moving Mahomes but it would have to be for something that would put us in the position to win right now. What do you think of a trade, and who would you want to add?

    • There are some things that just gnaw at my kraw(sic?). I have heard for 4 years that Smith is no good. I have disagreed. I have known in my heart, with the right personnel, that Smith would be “this good”. I was not one of those “fans” who insisted on a 1st round QB. I think the move that was made to bring Mahommes in was too costly. We had needs and I voiced them: OL, RB, ILB, OLB, CB. And now we are seeing what it is costing us with Berry going down for the Season.

      I am a defense first type guy and other than getting the right Offensive lineman, and an RB, my view needs were defense. I think the resulting play last season and this is showing that we were exposed. I think Dorsey was correct about Jamaal Charles, a KC favorite. But he gave us nothing for 2 complete seasons.

      In this 2017 draft, we obtained a QB that was not going to take over. We gave up picks that would have crucially solved problem areas, as noted by my list of exposures. Hunt was an Excellent draft pick. None of exposures have been covered with other picks. I thought, well Kpass would work himself into the play scheme. He hasn’t had a shot at it. Eligwe for the spot in the draft, appeared to me to be a good Choice. Chesson and Mcquay? Bottom line though is after Hunt, no one is contributing where our exposures are. They were low level picks. Not only trading up this season’s picks, the Chiefs gave up their 1st round 2018 pick.

      None of us are in the clubhouse and we don’t know how and who influenced the pick of Mahomes. Dorsey was though, the GM and responsible for the choice.

      Note here, I haven’t said that I am against PM. I just think it cost us too much.

      After week 8 we should have Nelson ready to go. I believe he can take over one role or another(outside or slot). That will help a lot. But we are not getting the job done as effectively with the Front three and for whatever reason, the defensive scheme. I could list things that I have seen but it would only be spot judgements.

      About loss 2: The NFL is an aerial game. The officials give calls to the offense to promote that(I believe this, I really do). At the end of the game, there was a call against our CB. Now cannot recall whom. The receiver initiated the contact and the flag threw. Then Oakland scored. That is one thing that is glaringly missed by most. If that flag is not thrown, there is only one more shot and it was from something like the 5 or 7 not at the goal line. That call hurt the most in my view. They still could have scored but it would have been more difficult. I am not blaming the loss on that one call. KC did not stop the Raiders and should have done. What is missing? too many factors come into play. Too many thoughts: DJ is not making plays. Houston either, Ford has turned out to be a league average OLB. Hali is out. Berry is out. Two OL are out. The front 3 is not as good as I thought them to be? We are missing a solution at the corner opposite Peters. Gaines has made no progress and cannot shut down a slot receiver. And so it goes.

      Other teams have suffered injuries and fortunately, The Chiefs have 5 key players returning(Ehinger is already back, West, Wilson, Nelson, Morse are available. Dadi and Hali are active Roster/Pup. Losing Akeem Hunt hurt but he is active roster and not on the injury list. West(Concussion, Wilson(Knee) should be contributors at the very least. Spiller seemed ineffective to me and is gone again.

      This is the same for every NFL team just about every year. Adding Erving and Ragland I thought were good moves. These haven’t paid off big time but with people healthy, it will be important as they mold their play to that of the Chiefs. At least solid depth. Witzmann seems to be the same case and has kept Parker E. out of where he was. Fulton has served well at center but we need a full blown Mitch Morse.

      We need guys healed up and the Chiefs need to march on. I think at this point, we can have good hope for the remainder of the season. My overall take based on John’s notes and the team status. It is a team game and we are getting a lot healthier starting now.

      • big oh? Forgot the trade idea. I would trade Al Smith or Patrick Mahomes if it gives us immediate help. It can’t all be future stuff. I am not in favor of it being Al. He is my QB.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      For the draft capital that we gave to move up to draft Mahomes and then trade him away before we even see what he is capable of seems ludicrous to me. Alex Smith is playing the best of his career and will surely surpass 20 TD’s for the year. 20 TD’s for only the 3rd time in his career. To me, that’s an average QB. There are a lot of excuses for his average numbers, changing OC’s, injury shortened years, lack of consistent coaching, etc. But other good QB’s go through these same situations and consistently perform much better.
      Alex may have turned a corner in his career (at the age of 33, really?) or he may have just peaked this year, only time will tell. He could have 5 more high end of average (great for Smith) years left in him. But on the other hand, Mahomes could have 15 “better than Smith” years as a Chief, again only time will tell.

      • PaulFromNorthMo

        BTW, TD’s per season isn’t the only thing in consideration, just the only “stat” I mentioned.

        • Homer Dave

          hehe, I LUVS me some “stats”.

      • Homer Dave

        it’s like buying a new race car and not driving it because you want to preserve the re-sale value. “ludicrous” is an apt term.

  • Heilios

    Btw Smith is only 33 years old. He could easily play at a high level for another 7-8 years.

    • Homer Dave

      or he could regress again as soon as next year or even game. Palmer, Rivers, Brady, Manning, and Brees are the only QBs with as much time in the league as Smith. The results of longevity in the league are arguable.

    • Top stat for me: W-L record first. Smith is in the top 5 of the NFL QBs on that stat alone. We’ve gone thru the sSmith is terrible so many times that it becomes useless to discuss it because we have done so very many times and it is two sides of something that cannot be resolved without Smith winning a super bowl. As I have noted, I like PM. That is not my issue at all. My issue was the Chiefs had exposures on the defense side of the ball and we did not get a starter in the mix due to draft PM.

  • freshmeat62

    I mentioned this the other day, but I wonder what Smith’s draft value will be at the end of the season if he can maintain this efficiency? I mentioned him packaged w/ one other player, that I think combined would be worth a 1st rd pick to the right team. That other player is Peters. I honestly believe teams are going to catch on to him and his value will start going down.

    • freshmeat62

      wish I could stick around for replys but have a date w/ my grandkids for lunch.

      • Homer Dave

        Grandkids take the precedence. Little farts, gotta love them.

    • Heilios

      Peters is a decent corner. Not elite. If he would actually put his heart into playing he could be one of the best to play the game. Until he decides to start tackling, pursue receivers, and quit only going for the strip he will only be a decent ball hawk. Quarterbacks are going to start throwing heavily in his direction because they will know he will only intercept 1 in 20, the other 19 times he won’t try to stop the receiver from bolting downfield.

      • tm1946

        Interesting about Peters, his head does not seem to be in the game this year. Still our best CB and we will not have the cash to sign him to a new contract, even if he wanted to stay. No idea what is going on but there is an undercurrent that takes from his on the field efforts.

  • Homer Dave

    hehe, who knew that spewing off something 10 seconds before I went to work today could turn into something so much fun!? As much as I hate to admit it sometimes, I find myself to be fun, just plain fun.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      I knew you were a bad seed….lol

  • Homer Dave

    Oh shiznola! here I go again

    An Andy Reid led team hadn't drafted a QB in the first round since 1999 (McNabb) till 2017 with Mahomes. Safe to say Reid was impressed.— ChieflyBacon (@3GravyCats) October 28, 2017

    • Mahomes isn’t my issue. Not drafting to the defense is. I look forward to PM taking over in the future. I believe Dorsey knew what he was doing. That draft choice was Dorsey’s not Reid’s. That is not to say that Reid’s input wasn’t great influence. But recall: All the statements by Reid himself and Dorsey indicated that the draft process ownership was the GM, NOT Andy Reid. Reid stated he wasn’t involved in the process of vetting and building the draft board. He stated once that it was not his bailiwick. His input came, along with the staff in consultation with Dorsey.

      I have stated before that I think the internals of how Dorsey was booted involved the disagreements btw Dorsey and Reid. That’s opinion of course. But if what Hunt, Reid and Dorsey stated, The choice of drafting Patrick Mahomes was Dorsey’s. And again, I have no problem with Mahomes. I have a problem with not drafting players early to get their talent on the field immediately. That is why I don’t like the QB choice that was made.

  • Homer Dave

    not that he has been extraordinarily effective this year but this is worrisome…..

    LB Justin Houston did not practice for today because of soreness in his knee. But the Chiefs expect him to play… https://t.co/jRRIfTnQTe— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) October 28, 2017

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      It kinda makes you wonder just how many years Houston has left. I would already be planning on eating a little dead money and NOT having him finish his contract.

      • Homer Dave

        12.7 in ’18, 7.1 in ’19 and 1.5 in ’20. Ouch, let’s hope he heals quickly.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          Yeah, I would say that we’re keeping him at least through next year. The 7.1 doesn’t scare me, we ate more than that for Maclin, although his is spread over 2 years. I would rather go that route than chew up the cap space for a player that’s not productive (like Hali).

    • tm1946

      Calf (also reported), knee here….. at some point he will be the poster boy for do not give big contracts to most players….