K.C. Chiefs and the Sunday Sum Up!

Listen up fellow Chiefs fanatics! Today I am proud — no privileged — to introduce you to an all new weekly piece brought by yours truly to your desktop or phones in the bathroom (Really? You are reading my hard work while sitting on the porcelain throne!) This article has one point: to bring all of the minor and important factoids related to our beloved Chiefs. Let the Sunday Sum Up begin!

 

 

With the 10th pick in the 2017 draft…

The powers to be at 1 Arrowhead Drive shocked the NFL world by bursting onto the scene in the first round of the draft. Leap-frogging over 17 picks from number 27 to number 10 in a blockbuster trade with the Buffalo Bills to select PATRICK MAHOMES II (PM2). In exchange for a first and third in the 2017 draft and our first pick in the 2018 draft, we have F-I-N-A-L-L-Y broken a terrible streak. Not since the 1983 draft has Kansas City even considered bringing in a quarterback from the first round. For 34 long, long seasons we have been mired by middling play from one of the most important positions on the field.

 

Up and down years with no franchise QB in sight has become commonplace on the battlefield at Arrowhead. Sure Montana came in for a couple years, Green showed up, Cassel even had a decent year, but some of the best play has come from the uber conservative Alex Smith. Smith is a capable quarterback who will not put your team in a bad position but, will never rise out of the ashes and carry you — on his own — to the playoffs. In comes PM2 who has the arm, accuracy, and skill to not only lead but, to excel in the passing game. Only time will tell if this trade will pay off but we can all say one thing: at least Dorsey has the stones to take a chance. He took the risk and hopefully we will all bask in the reward of excellent QB play for years to come!

 

 

John Dorsey the Mover….

In previous years, the news coming out of the war room had always been ‘Best Player Available’. This year, that mantra was thrown out the window. Where before the Chiefs would normally stand pat or even trade down to acquire more picks the top brass opted to package multiple picks and move around. Every view into the draft room would appear to show Dorsey on the phone presumably with other GMs. When their selections were finally announced everyone in the room would brighten up and be all smiles. This draws comparisons with the front office of one of the most successful franchises of the decade: the New England Patriots. Coach Belichick has shown little regard for the outside world when drafting his players often deciding to pick only… who he wants where he wants. Building through the draft is key to the success of any organization. We have all seen that the upper echelon of the NFL — including the Patriots — are relatively quiet in free agency, choosing to draft and develop their own talent instead. They allow their aging and more expensive talent to depart as free agents and pick up their replacements in the draft. Dorsey expanded on this idea and appears to be running with it.

 

Derrick Johnson on the way…

Derrick Johnson has been one of the best to ever roam the turf at Arrowhead. After a second ruptured Achilles-tendon,  we had to ask ourselves if he would ever be the same. If recent news is anything to go from, he will be back as good as ever.  DJ said recently, “If I’m not 100 percent at camp, there will have been some kind of setback, I’ll be back hitting or dodging some blocks.”

Those are bold words from someone who couldn’t even walk. DJ is the ultimate competitor and it would stand to reason that he would not sit idle during his rehab. If these words were to come from anyone else it could be met with a certain amount of suspicion. Number 56, in my opinion, is speaking nothing but the truth. Just watch his workout videos and see for yourselves. He WILL be ready and he WILL DOMINATE!

 

Sunday Sum Up: Bonus tidbit…

Jamaal Charles has yet to sign with any team this offseason leaving the door open for a fantastic reunion. He has showcased his surgically repaired knee in multiple videos working out. It would be hard to imagine him wearing anything but red and gold. Here’s hoping he can return home and spend the rest of his decorated career the way he started: as a Kansas City Chief!

 

Well, there you have it guys. The first of many Sunday Sum Ups. Comment below and as always VIVA LA JET SWEEP and GO CHIEFS!

 

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  • ladner morse

    Fun read John! Keep up the good work. So glad you are a part of the AO writer’s team.

    • Heilios

      Thank you so much for the opportunity! I love being a part of this wonderful community!

      • larry mckinney

        Great having your stuff to read!

  • ladner morse

    #Chiefs' LB Ukeme Eligwe (6'2", 239lbs) ran 4.48 40-yard dash at Pro Day…would have tied him for second-fastest time at combine for LBs.— BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) April 30, 2017

    • tm1946

      Mentioned before this article was he could make a ILB. Tall enough, but can he add and still be effective with more weight? Little light for an ILB.

      • Laurels and limitations

        they say he’s not maxed out yet in the body, so there is that.

      • Chiefly Bacon

        Not super light though. Plenty of ILBs go in the mid 240s.

  • PaulfromnorthMO

    Nice article John, I agree that DJ will be back by the start of the season (although he said camp), but I’m not holding my breath for a JC return.

    • Heilios

      I’ll hold my breath for the both of us!

      • KCMikeG

        Don’t his knees have to be shot for us to not even offer him a one year incentive heavy deal?

        • Heilios

          Absolutely. Offer him a 1 year minimum contract. If he is half as good as he once was it would be well worth it!

          • KCMikeG

            Incentive heavy contracts don’t count against the cap this year either. Even if he isn’t 100% of who he was before he would still be better than West. I have concerns with Spiller’s ability to comeback yet we signed him.

          • Laurels and limitations

            I’ll be surprised if Spiller makes the 53, real surprised.

          • Roswell Incident

            I agree. With the Hunt pick, I’m thinking Spiller was brought in as vet presence for camp. Unless he shows something stellar, he’s probably cut before the end of camp so he can possibly latch on to another team.

  • tm1946

    A read I can enjoy. My only concern is age + injury, even if they come back are they going have to play at the 2015 level. Based on my age and experience, hard to heal and get young at the same time. AND…. we will need every healthy, willing body we can get…. our draft is not exactly full of instant starters.

  • Laurels and limitations

    it’s not taking very long for this new draft to grow on me.
    Watching TK rag doll Lamp was all I needed to know as to why TK was taken= dude is monster that is still growing.
    Hunt is an undersung prospect who will compliment the backfield almost immediately.
    Eligwe has the no-quit factor.
    The Jehu cat, if he is healed, will compliment PM2 in a very good way.
    Not sure about the Safety, but they say is one smart dude.

    and of course VIVA La MAHOMES!!!

    • Heilios

      It will turn out great! Viva la jet sweep!

      • Roswell Incident

        Viva la receiver screen!

        • Laurels and limitations

          oh God….

  • jimfromkcj

    Always nice to see a new face. Read that you were on call at your job. What kind of work do you do? Curious as I worked in railroad industry for 42 years and was often waiting for calls. But on to a thought I have had about Mahomes. Everyone knows I preferred Kizer and this same scenario would apply to him as well. I have two scenarios that I have mulled over and the first one is that, say Mahomes works out super and in 5 years will be demanding to be the highest paid QB in the league. Well I will remind you that the two former QB’s that he has been compared to are Fayre and Marino. They have ONE SB between them. They were two of the highest paid QB’s of their time, and their salaries precluded having enough players behind them to be a Super Bowl winner. The second scenario is that Mahomes or Kizer flop and never adjust to the NFL and are traded or let go. I contend that would be the end of the Dorsey Reid experiment in KC. There might be a third where they become the second coming of Alex Smith and we go on for another 40 years of mediocre football in KC. At 83 that is one scenario I leave for the youngsters who post here.

    • tm1946

      Even the best hitters swing and miss. Dorsey/Reid are safe until Clark Hunt gets fed up. They seem to be able to piece together 10 regular season wins and walk around saying we will do better in the playoffs next year… that will go a long way with owner. So kudos to Mr Dorsey/Reid for Mahomes, win or lose, they tried. Now their other issues may make fans crazy but they do not own a football team.

      • jimfromkcj

        tm, Pro football is a fan driven business. If the QB of the future suddenly becomes ho hum the fans will go crazy and when they start putting up signs and hiring sky banners to over fly Arrowhead and most important leaving large portions of the seats vacant, Clark will become a hands on owner again and things will change. Mind you, just enough to fill those empty seats and to pour some of the old Kool Aid to pacify the fans and we will start another round of seasons with the same old result. Lots of hope, but no substance.

        • tm1946

          How many years did Chiefs fans put up with failed systems and coaches (and GMs), until we revolted. 35+? We, fans, can dream about ____ being the answer to the SB this year…. over and over. And we take it and eat up all the crap….Reid screws up a game, say it is all my fault… walks his fat rear out of the presser and we eat it up.

    • Heilios

      I am a master electrician out of Kansas City. It has been pouring here non stop for days.

      • tm1946

        Do not work hot…. as if you did not know.

    • I cannot agree that the a miss in the draft would end the Dorsey era(he is the responsible party in the end). Poor peformance by the team might end Reids. I am not saying here that Reid is a “bad” HC. He is not. He is very good. He sucks at play-calling and his designed offense too complicated. If we go by Hunt’s statements, you will find that he values consistency and that means winning football. I contend that if you are playing winning football, the team suddenly a sum of all parts, does something other teams can’t get to. but that is me. Was Mahomes my pick? Nope. I don’t agree with it but the circumstances led to QBs being drafted far higher than they should have been or would have been if there were 1 or 2 starters out of the gate type QBoF’s. I don’t believe that there were such in this draft. I would myself, never have been onto Kizer. My choice was Webb in the end but I do understand completely Pat Mahomes. I like our RB a lot. A far underrated RB in my view. The rest? they may or may not contribute at their positions in this 2017 season. I have a feeling that they will be knocking on the door quickly. Speed, athleticism etc. It means something in the NFL and Dorsey has the eye for it(my view). I said before and again now, I am not the one to be judging talent of QBs so that you may take my view of QBs with a grain of salt or two. but if we were going to pick a QB and it was not Webb, then Mahomes became my 2nd choice. I didn’t think it would take 3 picks to get him.

  • ladner morse
  • Heilios

    Is anyone as excited about the Wyatt Houston signing as me? A great tight end out of Utah!

    • KCMikeG

      I’m still scratching my head over the WR Chesson pick. No CB or OL yet another WR? We already have talented guys that can’t get on the field or get a look if they do

      • Heilios

        Dorsey loves to draft for the future. Maybe he sees Wilson departing or perhaps he sees Maclin as not living up to his contract and could be parting ways some time soon.

        • Laurels and limitations

          Maclin’s so-so years outnumber his great years. Plus, as many people already like to beat into the blogs, you can’t overpay everyone.

        • hell, I see Wilson departing. Is’nt he gone already?

      • tm1946

        And 5 UDFA to clog training camp…. no way to get enough balls to go around. Just more of the unusual drafting this year.

      • Laurels and limitations

        he’s a polished route runner already, I’ve read a couple of reports that think he can contribute sooner than later.

        • KCMikeG

          Great hands and wide catch radius too but Robison & DAT could barely get on the field last year. So how does he?

          • Laurels and limitations

            threat of violence?

          • KCMikeG

            Or maybe if our defense would stop scoring so many TD’s there would be more reps for the offense!

          • Laurels and limitations

            LMBO, soooo true! 49% of the points last season before the playoffs were scored by STs and the defense. Is it really any kind of surprise what direction Dorsey went in the draft this year?

      • Chiefly Bacon

        Chiefs did draft a CB. While Leon McQuat III may have been listed as a safety, his athletic profile just screams nickle back and Chiefs said they’ll likely try him there first. Still I get your point, I didn’t anticipate Chiefs drafting a WR.

        • see what I know about McQuay3 below. His Grandfather was a RB in Canada and later the NFL. died of a Heart attack at age 45.

          • ooopsy….must have been another thread.

          • Zierlein wrote about him the following: “”…. McQuay McQuay isn’t an easy player to slot…he is a high degree of athleticism, ball skills and speed to play the high safety role, but his inconsistent field awareness is a concern. McQuay’s issues with missed and broken tackles
            open field and concerns about playing him near the line of scrimmage. If he tests well, teams may see McQuay has a hybrid corner/safety who can compete
            for a spot as a big cover defender in sub-packages.”

            So then reading other analysists today, I am getting it this way:

            McQuay definitely has speed and length. The knock is that he lacks field awareness.

            McQuay has the length and Height that fits Sutton and Dorsey’s deal. He has the speed. He maybe be fit to the slot which is what I am reading now from various observers. He is a safety otherwise so the hybrid type approach may be what happens in KC with him. He has a problem with missed tackles and he doesn’t get away good when at the LoS and this is apparently a knock due to the talent he faced… probably had trouble with the first move by the WR. He does have the speed to recover so I am guessing that Dorsey and Co, with the advise of the coaching staff, believe they can work the problems out with their effort working with him.

            His Grandfather played RB in the CFL and later the NFL. He retired from Football, became a minister but died of a heart attack at age 45.

    • Heilios

      I’m just imagining two TE sets with Wyatt and Kelce destroying defenses and Hill running buck wild down the sideline!

      • Laurels and limitations

        call me crazy, but this is the year I think we see the WR sets overtaking the TE sets. Maclin, Conley, Chessun, Robinson, Hill….this could get fun real fast.

    • KCMikeG

      Do you think Harris is gone then? I have high hopes for Escobar.

      • Heilios

        Harris should have been gone long ago. Escobar had high hopes out of the draft with Dallas. He needs to work a bit harder in blocking and work on his hands.

      • well, with James O. gone, I doubt it. They still need 3 and 4 TEs.

  • Frank Leggio

    TEs. Let’s go with 3-4 wideouts. Quick passes over and over. Kelce in the slot maybe. He’s pretty good.

    • tm1946

      Will get a bit crowded the first 10 yards. Alex likes those short passes, defenses can crowd the line…. add 10 or so bodies within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage + OL and DL and LBs – and Alex will have no one to throw toward.

      • Laurels and limitations

        KC will begin to transition out of the dink and dunk stuff this year, I’m betting on it as the personnel being brought in have the skillset for the more traditional offense(s).

        • KCMikeG

          Started to see it more last year too once Hill got on the field.

        • tm1946

          Come on, you are saying ALEX SMITH will come out of his comfort zone, the one designed by Reid and he has been running since he got to KC? We will go into this season with a RB by committee plan (based on roster and who they drafted). What other personnel have they brought in to change what Alex has done to win at least 10 games a season.

          • Laurels and limitations

            The personnel being fielded dictate it, and as KCMG said just before me, Reid and Smith did in fact try to stretch the field more last year with the emergence of Hill.

          • tm1946

            Hill and Kelce makes two… Maclin may be past it but has hands…. and …… a lot of fans hoping for something the players have never shown yet.

          • Laurels and limitations

            true to an extent, the long game has been absent from KC since Green left for browner pastures. Thing is, I’m not all aboard the “Reid is a QB Guru” train as so many like to proclaim. I’m on the train that believes that Reid is just very good at playing to his player’s strengths. The long ball is not Smith’s strength, not even close, but I do think the rest of the team CAN play long ball. 2017 is likely Smith’s last in KC, and while I don’t think Reid will tank the season in order to transition, I do think he will be playing towards the strengths of the majority.

          • tm1946

            So…. not sure how you transition out of dink and dunk to a longer game if the guy chucking the rock … does not chuck the rock?

          • Laurels and limitations

            don’t think it will be up to Alex. Reid isn’t going to take Alex out of his comfort zone, but at the same time Alex can’t be allowed to ignore the obvious either. Reid has said every year since 2014 that they need to open up the offense more. I can’t believe for a second that Reid meant horizontally.

          • tm1946

            I read your posts but come on, you watched any games since Reid got here? He says all kinds of crap before and after games but does the same thing every game. He does what he wants, jet bubbles, TE sweeps, short shit. Sometimes he call a long pass the first pass of the game and NEVER does it the rest of the game.

            Come on, Reid wins about 10 games a season, here and Philly, he is NOT going to change now. Please do not tell me you are one of those, if only Reid would fire himself as OC kind of guys….not going to happen.

          • Laurels and limitations

            sure he will, we saw it when Foles was in on spot duty that first game. The field opened up right out of the gate. Now, Foles is bad so there is that, but Reid DID play to his strengths.

          • you have to have plays called that have routes and primary targets over the middle, short and mid range. The Chiefs don’t do it because Reid doesn’t call it. He calls bubble screens instead and has Hill run windsprints behind the line of scrimmage.

          • tm1946

            Could be Reid does not call plays the team has little chance of succeeding at. He wants to win games and I doubt he is ignoring mid and long range passing plays to keep other teams in the game.

          • Huh. Now I was yelling for crossing routes all season and when they did them, they invariably succeeded. this would bust a WR for over the top or Kelce or both. Instead, what type of plays did Reid call? outs, flats and bubble screens.

          • Laurels and limitations

            Kelce is a mid-ranger more so than a short yardage guy, Maclin, Conley, Robinson, Hill, Chesun, are all mid-range guys also. Wilson might, might, be the only designed short yardage WR on the entire team.

          • which may be where Escobar will finally find a home and a hope that a fish will rise—er, that the player will throw a damned block.

          • Chiefly Bacon

            I think he’s saying they’re starting the process of moving on from Smith. Beginning to tailor the personnel to Mahomes skill set.

          • you ever stop to think that it is Andy Reid who can’t break out? who calls the plays they run. Who puts a red light on audibles? It ain’t Al Smith.

      • then two fakes and hill over the top

        • tm1946

          You have watched the team…. you see Alex making 2 fakes and hitting Hill over the top?? I do not. Defenses have film on the Chiefs, their tendencies are pretty well known as the abilities of their star players. Add if you look at the 2015 and 2016 offenses, this is what you will see in 2017 (we added a RB from a minor school and a WR with issues…. and that is all). I cannot see any tweaks to the offense, what we have seen the last two years.

          • I think back to 2013. but anyway, I understand your view point. My point is Reid has to call the plays. No reason Al can’t execute and that is a huge problem, going up to Hill who can make that happen, even Conley has the speed. Forget Wilson. We have JMac, we drafted Hunt. It’s not going to look the same with Al Smith this season or if it does, look for the same problem and the problem is Reid and his playcalling in my nsh estimation. I agree with L&L that the transition is to go on(I think it started when Hill came on in 2016). Reid again. COnley made some very good plays in the crunch last season. JMac will return to form and Hill can scat if Reid stops doing stupid stuff.

  • KCMikeG

    Why does there seem to be such a wide range of evaluations on Mahomes? Especially on his accuracy>

    • Laurels and limitations

      jealousy, pure jealousy.

      • Heilios

        Boom! Drop the mic!

    • tm1946

      We took Mahomes mostly because we are getting in a position where Alex is about done, money, age, and skill set. We have not developed much to support a replacement – before this draft, some really wanted Bray to be the next guy. Back to Mahomes – like any college kid without uniform support from experts, we do not know exactly what we have. So we wait and see.

      • berttheclock

        Only in the mind of Andy Reid concerning the end of Alex Smith.

        • tm1946

          You know I am not all that in love with 10 wins a year Reid, mostly because I want playoff wins also, but he seems to be getting what he can from Alex.

        • exactly.

    • berttheclock

      Charlie Casserly said what bothered him the most about Mahomes II was his decision making at times. He said that he would watch his tape and see wide outs open, yet, see Mahomes take off running . Could not understand what Mahomes had either seen or failed to see. Sound familiar?

  • berttheclock

    Trey Edmunds on the UDFA list is very interesting. He was a HS 200 meter state champion. His father was a TE for Miami and Seattle. His mother was a very good hurdler at Southern Illinois. In his freshmen year, when, Logan Thomas was his QB, he ran for 132 yards and scored 1 TD against Alabama. His career at VT was set back by injuries in 2014. Broken clavicle, broken left tibia and an injured foot. These took a toll heading into 2015 and he never was able to get his starter’s role back. So, he transferred to Maryland and with their new coaching staff began to bloom again. He says he has the speed (4.47 40 and a 7.25 3 cone) to run away from you and the power to run over you (223 pounds). He fits the FB and/or H-back role very well. He is very smart and has graduated and has already started work on his Masters degree.

    • berttheclock

      Please, please, please, do not ask me to look him up again as I can’t stand to look at those weird colored by Nike helmets and uniforms of Maryland.

    • Heilios

      Hopefully he can regain his former glory!

  • freshmeat62

    Still wonder if JARD will bring in some unsigned vet to backup AS11. Find it hard to believe that they would go into the season w/ a backup that has never thrown a pass in a game…and preseason doesn’t count.

    Also wonder if the play calling will change w/ Bray and Mahomes, to go down field more, or will it still be the same screens and short of the 1st down marker stuff?

    Also bring Charles back. He deserves it.

    • tm1946

      The Chiefs are what they are. Anyone thinking Alex will become a mad bomber so Mahomes can step in later…. not how Reid will operate. Reid needs to keep the wolves away from the door with his annual 10 game wins…. start losing and he goes. Alex cannot consistently throw deep with something that does not look like a dying duck.

      Now in the pre-season, many are hoping to see Mahomes. I do not think so. The OL cannot block/protect a short thrower like a mad bomber… you just get a bad OL. Oh, you will see him but not much…. draft notwithstanding… we have to play 16 games in 2017.

      About JC, based on what will be on the roster, if he can play…. welcome home.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      Doubt it. Chiefs don’t have the cap space. Bray will have to do for the #2. Now if he balls out in PS and they trade him, then they might consider a grizzled veteran.

      • Mahomes is very bright. Why not take over as #2 because that player works closest to Al Smith. I have no confidence that Bray will ever be an NFL QB>

        • tm1946

          Not sure that is all that reasonable…. if Alex needed to come off the field in the first qtr of the first game….guess Mahomes could just had off the rest of the game and we could lose 3 – 0.

          • I see no reason that Mahomes could not have down a good portion of the playbook and a simplified offense to command by the time the season begins. I have as much trust in this as I do Bray leading the team (so, we have witnessed all of Bray’s on the field leadership thus far = zilch).

    • last item: Why? They drafted the 3rd Rusher in the NCAA in Hunt. He doesn’t fumble(1 in 885 snaps). He can catch passes and he breaks tackles(98 in 3 years according to one source). They have the perfect RB to pair with Ware and neither man should then be worn to a nub.

  • jimfromkcj

    Just looked in on over the cap and after adding the six draftees at 465, 000 each and deducting Shanassy and taking in account the dead money. I see where we are 7,029,910 over the cap. What do you think Dorsey will do?

    • tm1946

      He cuts some veterans or gets new contracts from high dollar guys (who have declined to get involved before).

    • This is one of the things that fascinates me. It seems like I am constantly hearing of some way they can work the rules to get the team under the cap. Although there are sometimes cap casualties.