K.C. Chiefs: A Win Should Be Celebrated

 

 

 

A win is a win, right? At the end of the season, the home win against the Denver Broncos on Monday night will count the same as the win against the Pats, Eagles, Chargers, Redskins and Texans. Were there players that could have played better? Yes. Were there play calls or schemes that were questionable? Yes. Can these same questions and answers be applied to every game?

 

I think you know the answer to that one too. Yes.

 

Wins in the NFL rarely come from teams that make zero mistakes, but rather the team that makes the least amount of mistakes. For every negative that has been pointed out from Monday Night’s game, there is a positive to be found. And if you can’t find a direct positive for each negative, then go ahead and use the win-loss column in that instance.

 

Not even 36 hours after the game has ended, it has been discussed at length from many angles from multiple people that come from all kinds of backgrounds and view the game of football in different lights. I am no different in the fact that I am different than all of you in my football background and views. While I could go into the negatives; DJ looking old, Peters’ avoidance of tackling, Reid’s ability to get too cute in the play calling and re-hashing my distaste for Bob Sutton… a win needs to be celebrated, so here you go:

 

Travis Kelce played as a man among men against the Broncos. 10 targets, 7 catches for 133 yards and a celebration dance after scoring a touchdown. Alex Smith looked to his top target early and often. Fun fact: Kelce had zero catches from the traditional TE position, all 7 came from either the slot or split wide. Also, I’m loving the yellow gloves.

 

Houston did drop in coverage, something I have been against as well as some of you, but he also pinned his ears back and got after Siemian with a 14.8% pressure rate, ranking towards the top of the league for the week. He also recorded 2 sacks. Previously this season, it seemed that when a big play was needed in the pass rush department, you could find Houston covering a TE in man to man coverage. Monday Night, it seemed that he was in Siemian’s lap when a big play was needed.

 

Compared to the early part of the season, Alex Smith had an off night. With that said, even in an off night, Smith looked better than he had in the past while having an “off” night. Yes, his stat line was down. Yes, he missed a few passes that could have sustained drives and iced the night even earlier than it was. But even with the miscues, he was still aggressive, still trying down the field throws that were being opened up by the lead and the commitment to the run game. I still think Smith took a hit to the arm, or maybe his right side. In the second half, while missing on at least 4 consecutive passes that were the types of throw Smith has built his name on, he looked off. And even more so, you could see it on his face after each miss. It wasn’t the look of annoyance or disbelief we have seen before, it was a grimace, a look of pain. I could be wrong, wouldn’t be the first time.

 

Last but certainly not least, Harrison Butker (aka Buttkicker) has earned his minimal contract with ease since missing his first NFL field goal attempt. Since that first try, and miss, Butker has went 18 for 18, half of which have been over 40 yards, 2 going for 50 plus. I was worried about releasing Santos from IR when Butker was signed, but if things keep going the way they have, we will all be saying Santos who before the year is out. Butker was my highest scoring fantasy player this week in a league that I had three guys go for 20 points. For those that don’t play fantasy, over 20 points is good, a kicker going over 20 is incredible.

 

Well Chiefs fans, there you have it. Who would you give the game ball to? Am I the only one that thought Alex Smith looked like there was something wrong with him? Will the team be able to knock off the Cowboys in Jerry’s World before the bye week?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • Very good points Frank. Thanks. So, we get to sit back and watch Thurs. We have a nother win. Sunday, I said, take a deep breath. The previous article, I noted that wins in the NFL are not easy. meditate. Enjoy the time to gear up for the next contest. Again. Thanks.

    • Frank Rodela

      Thanks Dai, I’m not looking forward to the Thursday Night game being it is a Thursday Night game for one and it being the Jets vs Bills…snore. I am, however, looking forward to seeing the Chiefs play in Jerry’s World in the Cowboy’s first game without Zeke. I’m really hoping they will be a team without an identity both before and after the game

      • I think the Bills are worthy and will notch it up. It’s good to check in a see what other teams are running and their actions.

        • Frank Rodela

          Don’t get me wrong, I’m going to watch the game from kickoff until the clock hits 0, I’m just not counting on the game being the game of the week

          • the Bills made a trade for a WR also, which tells me what all the pundits had been saying that they were giving up on 2017, isn’t true. … me too(watching the game).

          • Frank Rodela

            Maybe they will throw the ball more that they have Benji from the Panthers. The Bills have a league low 196 pass attempts to this point

  • Homer Dave

    Game ball goes to Kelce in my opinion. Smith WAS off the other night, everyone who has ever played sports or any other game of skill understands all to well that even having a slight hiccup in delivery makes the difference between good and bad- the hiccups are often minute in nature, at that. Well, Kelce was able to haul in those passes from Smith the other night and make it rather easy at that.

    • Frank Rodela

      I’m not sure exactly what it was, but something was off with Smith. I’m really hoping whatever it was is fixed by this weekend. A very small part of me is hoping it isn’t, then I remind myself AS11 is on fire and PMII will get his shot in time

      • I think part of it was dropped balls. I know AL was pissed too, you could read it. Dropped balls, failed routes(guys not in position to make a catch on a scramble, playcalling–he was not happy).

      • Homer Dave

        I don’t wish for Smith to fall off even one small bit. I want him taking the team to the big dance.

    • drwillez37

      I think Alex is still running scared from the Pittsburgh game. I hate saying it but he gets in these mind sets and he looks paniced in the pocket lately. Hopefully now with Morse back and LDT should start this week, we can go back to seeing comfortably numb Alex

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Butker deserves the game ball, but Kelce is a close second. I don’t think Smith was off so much as the play selection was off once Chiefs had a two-score lead. Too many play calls for guys like Harris and Robinson, when Kelce was unstoppable. Too many run plays against a really good run defense. Still offense, played pretty well, considering the defense they were facing.

    • Homer Dave

      Haha, I hadn’t thought about Buttkicker. I still can’t vote for him though. See, if Buttkicker was to receive a game ball that might lead to kickers all over the league beginning to believe that they are actually people too. Just can’t have that man.

      • PaulFromNorthMo

        I kinda figure that from everyone here at A1, CKA’s is the happiest with Butker.

        • Homer Dave

          lost me on that one, but okay sure, why not?

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            I thought CKA’s would be ecstatic with the signing of Butker. We finally have a place kicker whose teammates actually have to reach UP to pat him on his head.

          • Homer Dave

            HEHE, gotcha!!

    • Frank Rodela

      I hate it when they have a skill position player torching a defense, and the play caller moves away from him.

      • Chiefly Bacon

        Exactly. That’s what Denver did, later in the game, to move the ball. Relentlessly targeted Acker.

        • Frank Rodela

          All of Thomas’ catches came in routes he ran against Aker. So who gets the start at RCB this weekend? Does Mitchell get back into the game, or will he watch Aker from the sidelines again?

          • It’s difficult when the targets are all on the other side of the field because opposing QBs avoid Peters. And think on it, when the Bronco’s threw to that side it resulted in an INT. That will continue. We have a Single High Safety who is solid. Our problem is scheming to cover away from Peters and that should be a safety. I did btw, welcome Nelson back. I think we will be fine with him in the slot.

            Some critique is leveled a lot at Sorensen but I think he is working okay at least in defense against the run(and fielding the same around the field). He leads the team in tackles. What’s missing? Berry’s anticipation and meeting the opposing runner at or near the LoS. You can’t replace his talent, reads and abilities easily.

          • Chiefly Bacon

            Hard to say. Mitchell is clearly better, but Chiefs must think a break will make him even better. Could see Acker again, could see DJ White, who’s been inactive all year, or Philip Gaines on the outside. I honestly have no idea what Bob Sutton is gonna do at this point.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          Don’t forget, they had three RB’s that combined for over 150 yards. And is running behind an O-line that is supposed to be worse than ours.

  • berttheclock

    Meanwhile, absolutely no game ball for young Mr Veach, who had a chance to improve the team for the playoffs by delving into the trade realm, yet, sat on his duff and did nothing.

    So, we as diehard fans are supposed to really care about team, yet, the GM cares only about his personal paycheck?

    • Chiefly Bacon

      If you want to blame somebody, blame Dorsey. Chiefs have 3.5m in cap space. That’s not enough to trade for any kind of decent veteran. This is the case, largely, because Chiefs have over 12m in dead cap space.

    • Merlin

      How did you know that Veach didn’t try? Sometimes, you want to make a deal and you can’t find a good one.

    • Frank Rodela

      To his credit, Veach did make a couple of trades when he took over the GM job this offseason

    • Not so sure there was going to be a trade available that would work. If Veach didn’t make it, I am sure it was not to our advantage though I am sure he was working at various tasks. I am equally sure he was busy at the telephone.

    • tm1946

      We were pretty low on ammo for a trade. Who could have been the player we could have offered? Gaines or Ford or _____. Next years draft pick are lean to nothing, we will need college players for starters in the future and the leftover picks will require some hidden gems.

      • and how to run an ‘otel. With missing picks as well due to PM coming aboard. I think the Chiefs need to make significant trades in the process.

      • PaulFromNorthMo

        I rewatched the end of the game last night. I didn’t keep a tally, but according to something I read Kpassagnon had 10 snaps with 2 tackles. He played on the left side of the defense (Houston spot). He had his hand on the turf about half of those plays. He rushed every down and got pressure once. Lost his footing and went down once. The two tackles were assists (my opinion) running the play down from behind. The second tackle was on JC25. It looked like he tried a spin move once but he must have warned the OT ahead of time.
        Mostly he just looked like a kid trying to go a mile a minute. I don’t think I would expect much from him until next year.

        • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

          “He tried a spin move once but he must have warned the OT ahead of time”

          LOL!…..coffee out the nose on that one.

        • tm1946

          Got him in the game, most of the rest of the draft seems to be more about the future so he fits in the mold. I still like his potential. Thanks for taking the time.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Oh yeah, me too! He’s just going to need some time and practice, IMO.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            The man is an athletic freak of nature….I our coaches can harness his talent…look out!

  • NFL players are far over paid, we know. So it brought to mind a quote: ‘Gimme, gimmee, gimmee’. The last boy scout.

  • not playing thursday: Pederson’s team, who did make a move and got another RB to add to the arsenal. They have a pretty decent pair of RBs to work with and Wentz who is play darned good football(no, I am not reminding anyone that I thought he was a worthwhile later pick) and at least two WRs worthy. Their defense is pretty tough and it appears they are going to the playoffs pretty damned competitive. Hat’s off to the Former OC at the Kingdom.

    • Frank Rodela

      Eagles are certainty the mid-season team to beat in the NFC. If they can stay healthy, and mix it up enough that teams have a hard time scheming against them, they should be the team to beat come playoff time as well

    • should mention gm Howie Roseman here and left him out. Eagles now have two backs having acquired Ajayi, not wearing down their feature back, pairing him with Blount.

      • Frank Rodela

        Add Smallwood and Barner, plus Sproles and Clement are on IR. They are going to have some decisions to make in the offseason

        • But from that frame of ref, those will be hard decisions but could also work favorably in future trades.

          • Frank Rodela

            I’m sure they will try to trade at least one or two before cut day

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    I have been celebrating this win from the get go…..I think some people fail to comprehend just how truly difficult it is to penetrate that Denver defense. Our QB had almost as many yards on the ground as our starting RB because Hunt was met by a wall immediately.
    Kelce and Smith showed up Sunday……….Smith you say?…..absolutely!
    That stat line doesn’t tell the story. Harris alone cost Smith 50 more yards and a TD on his stat line.
    Robinson another 20.
    Hill with that ridiculous INT…….in the hands of our actual QB could have cost another. (Maybe)
    Smith/Kelse co-MVP,s on offense, no question about it.
    On defense…..Houston bully’s Denvers OL and gets to Seimian which causes him to make mistakes.
    Peters strips the ball from Charles for a TD
    Houston/Peters co-MVP’s on defense.

    • tm1946

      One added factor, some have ignored, broncos QB is about as bad during that game as they come…in turn, raiders QB is not all that hot but torched us.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        True….but people wouldn’t be talking about Carr torching us if the refs call Cook down on the 1ft. line (causing the clock to keep running)…..the error gave Carr a gazillion opportunities to throw the winning TD.
        Can you tell I’m still bitter?….lol

    • more good points. Travis too. He had one crucial drop as well.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        Exactly.
        People love to be tough on Smith, but he puts up 300 yards and multiple TDs on the nighty Denver Defense if everyone does their job…………on a night when we were getting zilcho from the running game.

        • I am not one of those. The Chiefs play-calling aided the lackidaisical 2nd half offensively. Reid again. But drops by Harris, Travis and Robinson and one more, hurt a lot. Filling to an open spot and dropping in the hole to take a Smith throw was absent as well.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            A person could say…”well drops happen” and that’s true, they do, passes aren’t always placed perfect BUT…..those passes were…….that non-TD pass to Harris couldn’t have been more perfect if Smith would have ran up field and set it in the palms of Harris’s hands.

          • add the half-back pass, that’s probably 2 TDs lost.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            The bad news was the result of the play, but on a game we won. The good news is, we won’t ever see that play again.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            Haha…true

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Exactly, I still don’t like Harris and can’t figure out why we keep him.

          • Frank Rodela

            Maybe not a top-teir guy, or an early draft pick, but I hope they reload at TE (outside of Kelce of course) and get a few usable at worst guys

          • absolutely don’t understand the guy. Time to move on.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            In all honesty, it was time to move on two years ago.

          • Homer Dave

            gotta give guys time to develop but Harris is not any better today than he was two years ago. It’s crazy just how in the hell he has managed to stay on the roster. But of course, beyond Kelce, who has the FO really gone after in regards to TE?

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Maybe next draft, you know, after we get a CB, OLB ILB DT, OG, ok, maybe not.

          • Homer Dave

            lol, point taken.

          • Frank Rodela

            Then again, I said the same about Wilson last year, and he seems to have put it together. Maybe, MAYBE, Harris will figure it out. Not holding my breath and wouldn’t be mad if he was gone at the end of the season

          • it’s focus. Maybe why he played roundball at Milwaukee and not Madison.

          • Homer Dave

            hehe, placing it in Harris’ hands might be exactly what is required.

        • Homer Dave

          202 (one site says 197) yards and he threw for 14-of-31 or 45% ( or 43% depending on who you ask), the rest of the 2017 opponents have accumulatively averaged 60% vs. Denver. Smith had an off night, he’s just lucky that Kelce did not also.

  • Peter King today: Browns 0-8 manage to lose at the trade table as well.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Ineptness at its best.
      That last minute trade debacle sums up the Brown organization in a nutshell.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Because of paperwork, or the inability to stay within the frame-work of the rules. Sad.

    • tm1946

      Browns cannot seem to get it right. Used to be a fan but not sure the NFL should not step in and run it… for the sake of parity (and tv ratings) alone.

    • drwillez37

      That is one franchise I would not want my son plating for…unless I wanted him to fool any attempt at a career..I swear u could draft Peyton Manning to the Browns and they wouldve ruined him somehow. no doubt in my mind, there’s a fun research topic, How many offensive players drafted by Cleveland that left and went onto blossoming into a allpro career.

  • oh. No suspension for the Alonso hit on Flaco. Haven’t heard about fines.

    • Frank Rodela

      Shouldn’t be suspended IMO, good call

  • PaulFromNorthMo

    The Seahawks have given a 3rd in the ’18 draft plus a 2nd in ’19 for Brown, a LT.
    The Browns were going to give a 2nd and a 3rd in ’18 for McCarron. But the Browns have accumulated so many picks it’s hard to tell exactly what where those would fall.
    So if the Chiefs decide to trade Smith in the off-season, what is his worth? Maybe more than what we gave for him.

    • Frank Rodela

      I’m guessing 2 seconds, maybe a first and a fourth, if he keeps going at the rate he started the season that is.

      • PaulFromNorthMo

        How about to the Jags for Ramsey and a 3rd?

        • Frank Rodela

          Ramsey is going no where

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            I know, just dreaming!

          • Frank Rodela

            If they were willing to deal Ramsey, they could keep the third

      • PaulFromNorthMo

        Before these trades took place yesterday, I would probably have settled for a 2nd and a 3rd, both in ’18. Actually, I still would.

    • tell you what: If that is what happens? We should get a hell of lot. this is not what wish or anticipate. But the hint is out there.

  • Frank Rodela

    Buttkicker AFC Special Teams Player of the Week !!!

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Now we’re talkin’!

      • Frank Rodela

        His second award if I’m not mistaken

    • drwillez37

      Best kicker in Football!!!! Buttkicker!!!

    • drwillez37

      And we finally saw a run back for the 1st time I beleive

    • berttheclock

      Mothership says he is five kicks short of the KC record for successful kicks. But, in checking through records online, I can’t find the record. Long list of longest at various at various distances, and per career and per season, etc., but no mention of who holds the record for the Chiefs.

      • Frank Rodela

        Most field goals made, season: Nick Lowery, 34 (1990)

        • Frank Rodela

          Must be talking about consecutive kicks?

          • Frank Rodela

            Or maybe kicks by a rookie?

            Most field goals made, rookie season: Ryan Succop, 25 (2009); Cairo Santos, 25 (2014)

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            In checking, you are correct, the consecutive kicks record for the Chiefs is 22, by Succop and Stoyanovich.

  • drwillez37

    Tamba’s back…Tamba’s back!!! Tamba’s back!!!!Let’s make this push to Minnesota!!! I hot my Jets and Giants tickets!!!! LET’S GO CHIEFS!!!!

    • berttheclock

      Only to practice. The Chiefs still have 3 weeks to evaluate him.

      • tm1946

        Hello, Zombo…

      • drwillez37

        I would think that has already happened

    • tm1946

      With Ford out (bad back)…. timely to say the least.

      • berttheclock

        The tightness in his back led to KPass getting in for 2 tackles, one of which was for a loss.

        • drwillez37

          The Rova from Nova!!!

      • What report that Ford is out? Houston, Ford and Wilson(?) listed but not listed as out that I have seen. Good that Hali is back. I want to see more of Kpass

        • tm1946

          We will find out game time.

        • drwillez37

          Rova from Nova!!!!

    • drwillez37

      I think he’ll be more ready then most would think…he looks real good on his instagram pics

  • staying off topic: Division races
    1. NFCN, Vikings(6-2) look to clinch(packers have a tough road 3-4)
    2. NFCE, Eagles (7-1), look to clinch(Boys tough road(GoChiefs) 4-3)
    3. NFCS, too close to think abt. Saints 5-2, Panthers 5-3, Falcons 4-3
    4. NFCW, too close to think abt. both Hawks and Rams, 5-2, Cards 3-4
    5. AFCE, Patriots 6-2, Bills 5-2, Dolphins 4-3(But it is the Pats dammit).
    6. AFCN, Steelers 6-2, Ravens 4-4
    7. AFCS, Titans, Jags, 4-3 and Texans 3-4
    8. AFCW, Chiefs 6-2, all others 3 down in win column with 3 wins.

    • drwillez37

      What a weird season!!!

    • berttheclock

      Watch out for the Bills. They were moving upwards anyway and they added a new toy. Plus, next year with 2 1st round picks, plus, dumping the huge contract of Dareus, they will be a force.

      • drwillez37

        And dumping Rex Ryan was the most important move of all…I wish we had 2 1st round picks next year!!

      • drwillez37

        But hey we got Mahomes!!!

        • Homer Dave

          on a rookie contract which will allow plenty of room to add peoples after the 2018 salary mess is dealt with.

          • drwillez37

            I love Mahomes that was a great pick no matter how u wanna look at it. When u hear guys talking about him u know there’s something special there. We all know the ordinary teammate stroke fest, but when guys talk about Patrick there’s words that u don’t normally hear from guys. SPECIAL he makes plays that no one even triies and he does it with lazer precision

          • Homer Dave

            plenty of people out there who absolutely loath the picking of Mahomes and in some aspects I can agree with their views to a point. That said, even if Mahomes were to get the nod to start and fall on his face I would still like the idea of trying to build a team around a young QB on a rookie contract. Good players on cheap contracts allows for spending in other areas of need as well.

  • berttheclock

    A question still remains. Does Andy Reid even want Hali to play? Hali went on the PUP list September 3rd. Nelson went on the IR list September 3rd. Now, that meant for Nelson, he could not be activated until 8 weeks had passed. They did so at the end of the 8th week. However, when, Hali went on the PUP list, that meant he would have to sit out only 6 weeks. Then, the Chiefs would have 3 weeks to either activate him or put him on IR for the rest of the season. Hali was not allowed to practice until the announcement yesterday. But, he still has not been activated. Hali harbors the view Andy does not really want him out there.

    • Frank Rodela

      OR…they were just stashing him as long as possible before being forced to make the decision to keep him fresh as long as possible down the stretch

      • berttheclock

        Conspiracy theorists, you may start your engines.

      • Homer Dave

        that’s my thoughts, the FO is biding their time on order for Hali to be most effective for the playoffs. Not a playoff push, the playoffs.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          I hope you’re right, but you’ll still have trouble convincing me that’s a good use of that much cap space.

          • Homer Dave

            I’m not trying to convince you of anything in that regard. I’m unattached to the situation but I would have cut Hali 2 years ago if I had been the GM.

    • drwillez37

      This was smoking mirrors Bert…They knew we were going to make a real push towards Minnesota and sitting Hali was part of it…that probably explains the tweets during training camp…stashing ACES!!!

  • berttheclock

    Yesterday and far below, I blasted Veach for not delving into the trade market to improve the team. Now, that did come from being an old curmudgeon in and of itself or some type of Debby Downer, but, I had to suffer through the wandering in the NFL desert of the Steadman/Schaaf years, watched many of the blunders done by King Carl to not improve the defense, suffered watching Pioli pass over Richard Sherman, Jimmy Graham and Russell Wilson to take, either duds, or injury cases. Therefore, I do not really place much trust in any GM of the Chiefs until they prove themselves. As much as I liked the early work of John Dorsey, I felt he made huge mistakes in the lower rounds especially at the end of his career here.

    So, young Mr Veach is really going to have to prove himself to me as a long time fan. I have seen the great work of Don Klosterman, but, I have seen far too many blunders made after he left the Chiefs. I do not grade on any curve and I tend to never suffer fools lightly.

  • tm1946

    SUPPOSEDLY: Hali is off PUP today. But…. today’s presser with Reid – did not know anything about it, Hali was not practicing and not part of the plan, at this time. Hali, his rep, and Veach will handle their part before Reid got involved. – At least that is what (I think he said) . I got no idea what he is talking about.

    Reid said about Ford – did not practice, back problem, and a test done but no results back yet – again not comfortable (as if he cared) with that comment. In my day if there had to be more than a trainer looking at you, you had more than minor issue.

    • Homer Dave

      Tamba Hali will not practice today for the Chiefs after all. "There's nothing been done there,'' coach Andy Reid… https://t.co/t8p2Kgfr1K— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) November 1, 2017

      • tm1946

        Internet is a bit more concerned over Ford’s back and suggests Hali take his place…. do not believe it works that way but something to do on a cloudy day.

        • Homer Dave

          Ford’s health has been a concern for a while now. Thing is, Hali’s health is finite in it’s effectiveness unless I miss my guess. If Ford ain’t healthy it’s time to prepare to see a lot of Zombo and maybe even some KP.

          • tm1946

            If I do not have dementia, isn’t Ford due a new contract after this season? If so, he is giving away mucho dinero and staying with the Chiefs…. I favor both.

          • Homer Dave

            the FO already exercised the 5th year option but they can still opt out of it before such-and-such date next spring if they desire, iirc (ask Paul for clarification). If the FO actually keeps him on Ford is set to make 8.7 MIIIiiiilllllyuuuuun dollars next year and in no such way has Ford earned such a payday with from KC.