NFL: Week 5 Sunday Afternoon Open Thread

 

 

 

NFL: Week 5 Sunday Afternoon Open Thread

 

It’s game time for the 5th week in the 2017 season of the National Football League. In AFC West, the Denver Broncos have a Bye Week so even if the Kansas City Chiefs lose in Houston tonight, they’re still in first place. The other teams joining Denver on the sidelines this weekend include Washington, Atlanta and New Orleans.

 

Also in the AFC West, the Baltimore Ravens are visiting the driver-less (Carr-less) Oakland Raiders and I won’t be one bit surprised to see the boys in black go down like Sonny Liston rushing to collect his payoff.

 

The perfect (0-4) L.A. Chargers will be traveling back East to take on the perfect (0-4) New York Giants. In this case, the Bolts look to have a good chance at coming out of this game with their first imperfection to their record… a win. That’s my bet of the day, the Chargers will go to 1-4 by beating up a badly coached Giants squad.

 

The rest of the games look like this:

 

 

 

 

The Sunday and Monday nights games:

 

 

 

 

It appears to me that a high percentage of visiting teams could be the winners this week. What’s your take?

 

 

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  • ladner morse
    • Though still waiting for more crossing patterns, hitting Conley and letting him to fight for possession if necessary. Ditto Demarcus Robinson.

  • Well, we have to “wait for it”. Meanwhile, there are other games of import to pay attention to. When I pay attention to talking heads? Pshawwwwwwww is the polite thing to say.

    • Laurels and limitations

      I can’t even listen to them anymore…so much pure gibberish.

  • most of my last 20 or so years related to the Football Eagles, I have not been a fan. But Doug Pederson has put things together and is doing a fine job as HC. I find myself footing the bets in his favor and that of the Eagles. They can score in the air and on the ground and have a defense that is doing well. Credo’s to DP. game time coming up. it’s a tough matchup v the former St. Louis team. Meanwhile, across the State, a city in Missouri with which I find little in common and it is a dangerous place as a friend is relating to me(who is now considering a move to Dublin), AND as well, NFL Football-less again… I was sort of feeling sorry for them. Nah, tough shit. Go Eagles.

    • and the Eagles score first, first pos.

    • berttheclock

      Plus, even without Fletcher Cox, their front seven is dangerous. They have almost a perfect DE for the system used by Schwartz.

  • Laurels and limitations

    Holy PUSH OFF Batman! How in the Sam Hell was that not an OPI on Brown right then?

  • Laurels and limitations

    Both QBs in this game between Pitt and Jacksonville look like trash. The only good pass and reception I’ve seen so far should have been negated.

    Pittsburgh is beginning to not worry me in the slightest.

  • Laurels and limitations

    So, this Philly thing might be for realz…

    Wentz on third down today: 4-for-4, 98 yards, 2 TDs.— Paul Domowitch (@pdomo) October 8, 2017

  • Laurels and limitations

    Ref’s are letting AB get away with murder out there with no OPI calls.

  • Laurels and limitations

    So this Watt thing in Pittsburgh might be for real.

  • berttheclock

    Shame that two years ago, Dorsey could not find the money to retain Tyvon Branch. He can still play at 30 and is one of the main bright spots for the Cardinals. He signed with them in March of 2016 for a 2 year, $8M deal with $5M guaranteed.

  • I want to post again about the Eagles. Well prepared, well scripted, both sides of the ball. Pederson’s team is getting all over the top of the Cards. 31-7 now. Agholor just made a superior catch, avoiding tackle for a huge long distance connection from Wentz who is having a stellar day.

    • berttheclock

      Agholor has really blossomed under the direction of their new wide out coach. He and the present wide out coach of the Chiefs never could see eye to eye on anything.

      • Makes you wonder at times(both this and above), about Reid’s influence on the fit of players and the system doesn’t it? I had Nelson on my list of later round picks.

  • berttheclock

    Still a mystery as to the Kevin Hogan situation with the Chiefs. His college coach said he really fit the Chiefs after Dorsey drafted him. But, for some reason Andy Reid did not concur and made sure Hogan was given as few snaps as possible at St Joe and in preseason. Then, Dorsey, instead of trying to get anything of value for him, made him a part of the last cuts. Some have opined that Dorsey thought he would clear waivers, however, that has never been proven. Cleveland grabbed him due to an assistant coach having once worked with him and thought he might be a fit for the Browns. Why do I even mention him? Due to his becoming the backup to Kizer. Kizer had another rough outing and Hue brought in Hogan. So far, he has completed 7 of 8 for 77 yards and completed one TD pass. Also, he has run for 11 yards on one carry.

    Would he have he made it with the Chiefs, probably no considering Reid’s dislike. But, he was worth something of value and just letting drift away is yet another reason for a list of Dorsey screwing up. Dorsey still was the best to build the Chiefs, but, he really slipped in late picks recently and allowing players to get away without proper compensation.

    • ladner morse

      Sometimes I think it comes down to personalities. Dorsey would connect with a prospect and end up drafting him… then Reid would not,,, and the dye was cast. I think a lot of that went into the KeiVarae Russell situation too.

      • I was on the same page with Dorsey almost all the way. I know what was made public but I still believe the internal problem was between Reid and Dorsey and Hunt went with the former.

        • ladner morse

          Don’t you wonder what a team would look like — or how they would perform — if Dorsey was the GM AND he got to choose the HC?

          Never got the idea that Reid was supporting Dorsey 100%.

          • I think they worked okay when at GBay… but I am of a similar view — I don’t think the public display was how it played out. Which created a huge problem as you observe. Reid is a hugely popular coach, very good. I hate his offense. Period. It’s not that I dislike the WCO. Just his version. That said? Reid came out and used the pieces that Dorsey gave him in season 1. Remember the 9-0 start? The rest of that season’s results were 2-5. When they got to the playoffs against the Colts Reid apparently opened up the playbook, Smith used his feet and his arm and almost won that game. Think on that, because the play along the sideline to Bowe was about the width of Bowe’s foot or a little more from getting that completion for a first down about the 31 was it? The next three years, Reid has had the clamps on and that has pissed me off to no damned end. I hate his playcalling. I hated it at Philly. I hated his game calling when he was Philly. I bet money against his team year after year in big games. that is my view of Reid. It really hasn’t changed. He is greatly creative but his playbook is far too complicated. It takes a player of high intelligence at the skilled position s to get it down and that means you have players that can really play sitting on the sidelines. Like Robinson now. yeah< Bert knows the offense. yeah, he has speed. But Robinson has it all over the top on ability over Robinson and that is leaving a lot of talent on the bench. That is Reid. More than this: Dorsey had a great acuity for finding talent. When the draft was done, he picked up players who fit and could accomplish something meaningful each season. Reid would do with them what he wanted and that is the way it worked under Hunt. Which means that part, is what I don't like about what Hunt set up. The HC should be under the GM. I agree with Hunt, the way it was set up, to have each reporting to Hunt as "separate" but equal — because of the fact that the HC is not under the GM. I don't like it otherwise and think it sets up what I termed 'Internecine' but then you knew I viewed what happened as such. I have personal views about Dorsey's personality. He is not "new age". I am on page 1 of the same book.

  • ladner morse

    Really pulling for the Chargers. They are up 17-16 at the end of the 3rd quarter.
    I’m no a fan of any NY sports team. Plus… I’d like to think the worst of the AFC West is better than the worst of the NFC East.

    • mnelson52

      I really have a strong dislike for any NY team of any sport. However, if Giants were playing Broncos or Raiders today, I would have to pull for NY. Can’t really rule LA out yet. Seems like I remember another team recently that started 1-5 that made the playoffs and won one.

    • drwillez37

      I ALWAYS root against NY…GO INDIANS!!!

  • ladner morse

    I think it’s interesting how the 1:05 (West coast time) start to the Ravens/Raiders game is also 4:05 on the East coast.

    I don’t have the stats but have always wondered if that East coast/West coast time difference for teams that have to travel that distance has any effect on the outcome? Anyone know?

    • berttheclock

      Wasn’t it the Chargers who used to have time zone problems when they had to play on the East coast?

      • ladner morse

        Didn’t even think of that. They are really playing at 9:00AM their time.

        • Or the Rams when they were in LA. I think also that you can prove it via the 49-ers up to Joe and Steve.

  • ladner morse

    Update: the Giants have gone ahead of the Bolts 22-17 on a 48 yards pas from Eli to Odell. The extra point attempt was not good.

    Come on Philip!

    • ladner morse

      Chargers have the ball with 5:07 left!

      • ladner morse

        It’s now 22-20 Giants with 4:50 left.

        • ladner morse

          Bolts bolt into the led up 27-20! Only 1:27 to play.

    • drwillez37

      They lost all 3 of their starting receivers today

  • ladner morse

    Raven up 14-0 on the Raiders. Yupiiiiii!!!!!

    • berttheclock

      Have you noticed something I noted earlier today about the Raiders? It is the lack of both pass protection and run blocking by their very highly paid offensive line made up of veterans. Add that to a weak secondary and the Raiders are rapidly becoming the Faders.

    • drwillez37

      The day keeps getting better despite doing laundry all day and it’s raining…..and super humid!!!

  • berttheclock

    Here in 12th Man Land, we have both the Packers and the Cowboys, but, the Seahawks versus the Rams. The Rams are wearing their all blue and gold uniforms.

  • ladner morse

    BOLTS WIN!!!!!
    1-4… whooohooo!!!!!

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Looks like John called it in his predictions piece…..Bills went down

    • ladner morse

      Well……. I’m sure John meant the opposite of everything he predicted!!!!!!!!

      🙂

  • ladner morse
  • berttheclock

    When Dorsey traded up from 27 to 10 to take Mahomes II, he gave Buffalo the 91st pick. The Bills then traded that to the Rams so the Bills could move up to 37 to take Zay Jones. The Rams took John Johnson, a safety from Boston College. Just a few moments ago, when, it looked as though the inept Seahawks were, finally, going to score, Johnson raced across the field to pick off Wilson and return the ball almost 70 yards. The Rams are making the Seahawks look very inept. They moved the ball down the field at will in the early part of the game only to have Gurley seemingly score a TD by reaching out with the ball and hitting the pylon. But, the ball came loose and the refs ruled it a touchback.

    BTW, the field at the Coliseum looks absolutely horrible. Worse than any inner city high school field I have ever seen. Plus, there are a lot of empty seats in the upper sections for the game.

    • berttheclock

      Of course after mentioning Johnson, on the next series, he tried to defense the bigger Jimmy Graham in the end zone and Graham scored an easy TD.

  • berttheclock

    When anyone mentions a young player finally coming around, consider Goff, the QB of the Rams. He throws great passes.

    • ladner morse

      His passes have always been good. But when a QB doesn’t understand the rest of the QB challenges… he’s doomed. True about Goff. He looks sharp this year!

  • Laurels and limitations

    Leonard Fournette is not afraid of contact evidently…

    🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨LEONARD FOURNETTE WAVED ON THE HIT! pic.twitter.com/5MaNCZ5zMd— Big Cat Country (@BigCatCountry) October 8, 2017

  • Laurels and limitations

    Until then we’ll just be watching this… pic.twitter.com/9Tdf5Ow0zr— NFL Network (@nflnetwork) October 8, 2017

    • drwillez37

      I seen that live..and that was MEAN!!!!

  • mnelson52

    Glad Chiefs didn’t have a day game. Power’s been out and just came back on about 15 minutes ago.

    • drwillez37

      That happened here last week

  • drwillez37

    This is KC Nation!!! We are going into Houston and taking this game on the national stage AGAIN!!!! AND showing the world this team is for real aND we are coming for the SB…GO CHIEFS!!!!! WOOOO!! I’M FIRED UP ALREADY!!!

  • Laurels and limitations

    Pittsburgh is reeling right now.

    TATTOO THIS ON MY BODY pic.twitter.com/0FOGtgeBLP— Division Leader Cole (@ColeFartley) October 8, 2017

  • Laurels and limitations

    Without a holder, snapper of even a ball, rookie Harrison Butker is on the field in Houston going through the… https://t.co/4AaUKZoRZp— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) October 8, 2017

  • Laurels and limitations

    The rookie is here!#KCvsHOU #ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/dOv8PQPbqe— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) October 8, 2017

  • ladner morse
  • Chiefly Bacon

    John was right about the Bills Bengals game. Color me surprised. Bills had some impressive wins and Bengals had looked like trash thus far.

  • drwillez37

    That’s sad!!!!

  • drwillez37

    Turnover baby come on!!!

  • drwillez37

    T.O.P. check… now let’s see some points