Titans At Chiefs: Open Thread

 

 

 

Well, it’s one last fling for second and third string players who are hoping to make the roster. The “thought plickens” as they say because the Chiefs new GM is randy for some candy of his own liking and has brought in ILB Reggie Ragland and now offensive lineman Cameron Erving formerly of the Cleveland Brown. It got me thinking… with what little time I have had to do that this week will trying to move from one region of the country to another… with the “another” meaning, Kansas City. Anyway… here’s what my thinker thunk-did: are the Chiefs abandoning the “Build Through The Draft” foundational policy they have espoused to at regular intervals for the better part of 4 and one half years?

 

I like free agents and trades to acquire players with the best of them but I rememebr back about 12 years ago and the Chiefs went bought a CB named Patrick Surtain in a trade with the Miami Dolphins. It’s not his overall production I am opposed to, it’s his production compared to what they paid for him. He had 4 INTs in 2005 and 47 tackles. Not bad numbers but when you consider that the Chiefs gave up a second round draft choice and then turned around and paid Surtain $50.8M over 7 years… I’m still flabbergasted about that deal.

 

Now-now Laddie, clam yourself down… the Chiefs only gave up a 4th round pick in 2019 for Reggie Ragland and a 5th round pick in 2018 for Cameron Erving so, it’s not quite the same. Right? Well, hold your horses… or as we like to say in my family, “Hold your Morses”… because it goes a bit against the “Build Through the Draft” Kum-ba-ya number they’ve been chanting for nearly half a decade.

 

So, if the Chiefs are in earnest about their credo then we should not expect a draft pick to get cut this Saturday at either ILB or on the OL, as a result. That means, both ILB Ukeme Eligwe and Parker Ehinger… should be safe. If not, it’s a departure from the “real truth” they’ve been feeding us and if you’re truly looking for Fake News… that would take the cake… and eat it too… while we’re at the business of mixing metaphors.

 

My prediction for tonight’s game… the winner will be… the fans. If you haven’t had the pleasure of reading the Arrowhead Adventurer’s piece called, “Why You Should Go To A Preseason Game And What You Should Do When You Are There!“… then you’re missing out on both the delight of reading that article and the chance to see some Chiefs football Live and in person.

 

Go Chiefs!!!!

 

 

 

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  • mnelson52

    I hate when a game is not televised in my area. The Bengals were not televised but NFL channel had it on the next day. I managed to stay away from news and sports till I could watch the game. NFL channel doesn’t show tonight’s game till Sunday. I can’t avoid news and sports 3 or 4 days to watch the game not knowing what happened. I’m going to find out if I can get it by radio online.

    • mnelson52

      NBC has now changed their schedule to show the Chiefs. Yaaaa

  • Laurels and limitations

    Well fellas, I am officially a starving college student again in my quest to perfect the mid-life crisis. Being such, me and my beautiful wife were offered a free supper of BBQ ribs, beer drinking, and watching KC football at a friend’s house and we couldn’t say no. That being said…

    VIVA LA MAHOMES!!!!!

    • ladner morse

      Enjoy. Sounds to good to be true.

    • mnelson52

      Nothing like BBQ, beer, and KC football.
      Enjoy my friend. Although I’m not having ribs, I am eating pork steak that is very tasty.

      • mnelson52

        Of coarse mine isn’t free

    • Chiefly Bacon

      What are you in for- er- What’s you major?

      • Laurels and limitations

        I’m actually attending a Harley-Davidson tech. school. This degree and my previous degree in Underwater Basket Weaving should be monumental.

        • Chiefly Bacon

          Nice!

  • ladner morse

    Being stuck in a less than lavish hotel to watch the Chiefs game… I’ve decided to make The most of it be ordering some Mediterranean Cuisine from Green Zatar’s in Denton TX.

    Go Chiefs… and chefs!

    • berttheclock

      Denton, Texas? You mean the home of Abner Haynes? Of course, there is, also, Sly Stone, plus, a member of the Charles Manson clan.

      • mnelson52

        Quite the history in Denton. I lived there also in 1981 and 82, but I’m not famous nor have I added anything to the history.

        • Drove by there many times, trips houston to joplin. never bothered to stop. huh.

        • ladner morse

          When I moved to this area 20 years ago, Denton was one of my choices for a place to live. Have come to Denton on many an occasion and love it… especially the antique shops on the old town square.

          • berttheclock

            Hey, any school such as North Texas State which gives a degree in jazz music, can’t be all bad, eh?

  • berttheclock

    Geez, I take just one afternoon nap and Veach releases Jah Reid. What did I expect to see, the name of Albert Wilson?

    • Merlin

      So, you slept on the Reid release… not good bert, not good. We’ll all hold it against you πŸ˜‰

  • berttheclock

    So Laddie, have you begun to croon “Homeward bound, I want to be…………….”

    • mnelson52

      Home where his love life’s waiting silently for him

  • berttheclock

    Ah, the immense “pleasures” of “watching” the game via FOX Sports online.

  • berttheclock

    Meanwhile, with the LA Rams, there is a player for them I wanted to see in Red and Gold this year. He is Samson Ebukam, a LB from Eastern Washington. The Rams drafted him instead. Tonight, he has, finally, started and is able to play in his first game for them against Green Bay. Of course, the list of regular Green Bay players not playing for the Packers tonight is endless. The Rams view Ebukam as their future.

    • mnelson52

      I hate to say, I know nothing about Ebukam

      • berttheclock

        Fast and smart. The wide out Kupp drew most of the attention from scouts watching Eastern Washington, but, Ebukam was the type of young player who kept improving each and every year after learning the game. Had played soccer when, he first came to the US from Africa.

        • mnelson52

          Usually in the spring I check out the players I would like to draft. Unfortunately I was in the hospital and unable to research anything. I went in March 20th and it took 50 days to get home. I have not spent the energy to go back now to see which players I would have wanted. Well, with one exception and that was to check out QBs. I will have to say, we chose the correct person for the job. I’m excited just thinking of the possibilities he could bring for years.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Looking forward to seeing Mahomes, not so much Chiefs RBs. Word is, mostly gonna see Devine Redding tonight. Have not been terrible impressed with him thus far.

  • Frank Rodela

    Just saw Reid was cut. Inevitable.

  • mnelson52

    Travis hasn’t looked bad this year

    • mnelson52

      As soon as I say that he tips a pass to the Titans

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Not a good last impression for Ross Travis. Very catch-able ball that he could have easily turned into an int.

  • mnelson52

    It doesn’t matter to me if it is players that won’t be here Saturday, I do not want Mahomes to lose to Cassel

  • mnelson52

    Great throw and catch

  • berttheclock

    Now, who was it who said he wondered if DeMarcus Robinson was going to catch a pass? 53 yards.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Remember how I said not looking forward to watching Redding. That opinion was just solidified.

  • berttheclock

    Devine ain’t very devine, eh?

  • mnelson52

    Should have been a holding call on their tackle

  • berttheclock

    Did Chesson just make the 53? 76 yard punt return to the house!

    • Heilios

      He most certainly did. Question is who gets bumped?

      • berttheclock

        Considering DeMarcus Robinson had a 53 yard pass catch and run, the so-called backups are beginning to shine, eh?

        • Heilios

          Kpassagnon (spelling?) Is looking good so is our our new LB. Devine on the other hand hasn’t looked good all preseason

          • berttheclock

            Quick question. I am “watching” via FOX Sports Online. On that fumble at the 8, first they said it was on Devine, yet, a few minutes later, they said it was on Mahomes II. So????

          • Heilios

            I didnt see the play we were putting the kids in bed.

          • Heilios

            I thought Ross Travis was looking good so far then I saw him tip the ball straight to a receiver but the problem is one play could drop you from contention with so many guys fighting for a limited number of spots

    • mnelson52

      We’re not short on return men

  • Heilios

    That was a hell of a block! Go Chiefs!

  • Heilios

    I’ve always liked Alex Tanney. He has great accuracy with trick shots it just hasn’t translated to the field.

  • Heilios

    Excellent pass protection! Great throw!

  • Heilios

    Robinson is a lock for the roster!

  • Frank Rodela

    Just got the Mahomes bomb clip on my phone. WOW

  • Heilios

    Damn int!

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Bad decision there by Mahomes. He’s a rookie, he’ll get better, but this should quiet some of the calls to start him now.

  • Heilios

    Did he bobble the catch?

  • berttheclock

    Demarcus Robinson is 2 for 99. But, of course, there are several KC coaches who are saying, “But, Albert Wilson, woulda, coulda, shoulda……………..”

  • berttheclock

    With both Matt Cassel and Alex Tanney playing, the Titans are looking akin to being called the KC South.

    • Heilios

      Succop too

      • Frank Rodela

        And they had McCluster until last year

        • Heilios

          Just thought of that!

    • Heilios

      McCluster went there also

      • Merlin

        and Succup

  • Heilios

    Thank God for bobbled interceptions

  • Heilios

    2nd and 20 why not throw a screen pass? Next play will be a bubble screen

  • Heilios

    Man they are running all over us. Is our run D that awful?

    • Chiefly Bacon

      Titans are a power run team, it’s a major focus for their team. Shouldn’t be too disappointed.

      • Heilios

        But we can’t stop anything they throw at us.

        • berttheclock

          Anyone want to hazard a guess as to the college David Fluellen played for? Happens to be the same college one of KC’s RBs attended.

          • Heilios

            Toledo?

          • berttheclock

            Yes. Laddie is sending you his prized Kewpie Doll.

          • Heilios

            I’ve always wanted one! I don’t think Laddie has my mailing address

          • Frank Rodela

            Ding ding

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Mahomes needs to learn to read zone coverage. That’s why he won’t start this year.

  • Heilios

    Excellent interception Eligwe!

  • Heilios

    I’m waiting for the jet sweep and bubble screen

    • Merlin

      You want to keep those under your hat. You know, for the surprise factor.

      • Heilios

        Ahh I see, Reid is being subtle in the preseason πŸ˜‰

  • Heilios

    Redding is not looking good.

    • Merlin

      Not at all. I can’t even see him on the practice squad

  • Heilios

    So if Charles is cut from Denver do you see us picking him back up with the loss of Ware or do you think we roll with Hunt Spiller and West?

    • berttheclock

      I still believe the Chiefs should carry 4 RBs. I am reminded of the year Seattle and KC thought they were set come early September only to see the injury bug wipe out both RB rosters. In fact, that was the year, Ware came to be known in KC and Seattle wished they had never released him.

  • Heilios

    Damn Colquitt is good. Easy to see why he is the highest paid punter in the league

  • Heilios

    Pierre-Louis is playing great too.

  • Heilios

    Great throw through coverage

  • Heilios

    Fantastic throw to Robinson! TD CHIEFS!

  • Heilios

    Did I mention Robinson is a lock for the roster?

  • Heilios

    Robinson>Wilson

  • boom

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Great drive for Mahomes.

    • berttheclock

      But, just think how much better it would be if the defense had to fear a running game, as well.

  • berttheclock

    This is the Demarcus Robinson I thought the Chiefs were getting when he was first drafted. This is similar to his senior year at Florida.

    • ladner morse

      This is exactly who I thought he was… and for all appearances… now is.

  • robindon? ya.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Chiefs LB core has gone from a significant weakness to a major strength. Kudos to Veach.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Toub has to have mixed feelings tonight. On the one hand, the STs units have been stellar, on the other, he’s watching a lot of guys he knows he’s going to lose, play some really quality snaps.

    • ladner morse

      Like… DRob probably moves up and may get limited ST snaps… and a guy like JML may not even make the team.

  • berttheclock

    Sad in some ways that after the second half is finished, there will be many guys who may never be able to wear the Red and Gold again. Rough long road for them heading through St Joe.

  • berttheclock

    Just wanted to mention a fellow with the Titans. Brian Orakpo is not playing tonight. But, his brother has been very active in the floods in Houston taking out his boat to rescue as many as he could pick up.

    • erect new monument in Houston to the nebulous, ambiguous bubba with a bass boat.

      • berttheclock

        Rapidly off topic, but, have you read reports about how the lack of any city planning in Houston allowed known flood areas to be paved over? Reminds me of several years ago when the underground car garage for Caesar’s Palace in Vegas was flooded out. The owners were shocked, I say, shocked. Old timers could have told them the garage was in a direct flood path which had been coming down from Mt Charles for eons.

        • I am not sure that it is that simple. probably far more of import is the growth of Houston South and West. but even then it doesn’t address the problem. The resevoirs could hand the 40 inch rain but 52 inches is far beyond any capability. So, it is the storm of a thousand years and proly won’t be seen again in anyone’s lifetime. The actual storm was less intense than Katrina, Rita and Wilma. The latter two were more intense than Katrina. I drove the tx coast from the Ferry end at Bolivar Penninsula to Bridge City and much of it was scoured. Anyone there lost their life. Houston is used to storms but people do stupid things. They wait and don’t evacuate and the flood waters over come their vehicles when they try to flee .And so on. People take these storms in stride and then you get a Rita or Harvey. I think there are 31 dead now. Rita had 76 if I recall, that was 2005. There were two that I went through in Sugarland the same year — I had water at the front porch, the vehicle in the drive had the rear tires in the water. Like that. Ian and Mary(younger son) are hosting rescuers in their home so that they have a place to launch from. I was talking to Randy Atkins(Mary’s father) and he took them groceries. Anywhere in Houston the cubbards are bare. Randy lives north of katy at Belleville. not to say they haven’t had their problems. 36 inches of rain took trees and debris against the bridge on their road to town and diverted, took out 15 feet of road, now 6 or 10 feet deep. To get to town now, they have to drive 20 miles around one way. That’s a lot of damned rain itself. It is Barker Cypress and over towards that area of South and east Houston that is hit the hardest. Ian is dry in Katy, Mary’s grandmother and Aunt live over off of 290 NW and they are dry. One famil member has been flooded. Randy’s brother lives south of Houston and he avoided flooding by a foot or two. It is 50 inches of water when they system is able to withstand the storm in every 10 or 20 years or 50. Not that 1 in 1,000 years. 35-40 inches, it could handle.

          • berttheclock

            If i recall correctly, there were many fatalities of those who were trying to evacuate Rita. Especially hard hit were the elderly who became stuck in traffic and suffered heat strokes.

          • Like now, those who are caught in vehicles, didn’t attend to evacuation early. Then drove out rather than get on a roof. The panic was overblown in the news btw. but it was out on the Bolivar, people left late and could not make the bridge or whatefver, and then were trapped by water. To see that 20 or 40 miles, it had fishing locales, marinas, restaurants and so on at the cuts and it was all gone. There were homes with heavy damage on the south end but after about 3 or 5 miles? Nothing. Of course, you can only get to Galveston via Ferry from the south end and it is what, 50 or 70 miles long to get to the mainland area north.

          • so if you look at it, the north end and to the west is the trinity river flood plain. That has always been a flood disaster in a hurricane. You just don’t go there.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Chalk up that last run to even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.

  • berttheclock

    Cairo Santos has returned!

  • mnelson52

    DBs not looking great

  • berttheclock

    Tre McBride of the Titans is really fighting for a job with the Titans. He is, very much, on the bubble as this is his 3rd year trying to stay off the PS and make the roster full time.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Hola muchacho’s
    No game here in Ca…..how we lookin?

    • berttheclock

      Mahomes II and his young cohorts of so-called no names, such as Robinson, Kemp, Jones are looking great. Running by the Chiefs is Dismal with the D in heavy type. Run stopping of the Titans has not been the best. Plus, Chesson had a 76 yard punt return.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        I could see in the stats that Mahomes connected with Robinson….that’s good to hear, a little glimpse into the future?

  • ladner morse

    Reggie Ragland is a Kansas City Chief!

    • berttheclock

      As in passing his physical?

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        Hope so…..a healthy Ragland could make that deal a steal.

        • ladner morse

          Wheelin’ Dealin’ Stealin’… that’s what Veach is all about… so I hear.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            He is a gambler, I will give him that

          • he is bold if he is successful, eh> Incidentally Lad, the article is now updated for when you wish to use it due to recent events for my last few paragraphs… it will be in your mail box with the update in the AM>

          • ladner morse

            Been tied up with moving and loading a truck and closing details the past few days. Will work on it tomorrow for Saturday. Can’t wait to read it.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            True…so was Dorsey and it panned out for him. Peters and Hill are the first two that come to mind

          • Wait on Saturday … I have two pieces for Lad and one is going to get interesting comments. Proly both.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            Looking forwatd to it!

          • ladner morse

            You sent me Two pieces….. help em catch up with myself. What are the names of the two so I can search my email again.

          • It’s Mr. Veach from now on, Sir. the latest, I will flag for you tomorrow> sent a separate email with photos so I can resend that to cover images. Easiest if I just resend both so the ones in your mailbox sometime before 10 will be the “lastest”. I have been looking at film(Ragland) and that was my initial piece but I had one of those thonks on the head for what I have completed on Veach.

          • ladner morse

            Oh cool. I thought you were saying you had sent me two different articles to be published separately.

          • I haven’t finished the 2nd one(that is the one I was getting ready for saturday(originally). So by tomorrow afternoon, or evening, I will get you that one(On Ragland).

          • well think about it. We have all contributed to where the weaknesses are. OL, LB. Check. WR? Nothing on that but I like Robinson a lot and it seems he is proving his case. πŸ™‚

          • ladner morse

            DRob is going to be the surprise WR of the year this season. You can say… you heard it here first. I don’t mind… go ahead and say it.

            Or not… it’s really up to you. But I did say it first.

          • berttheclock

            But, but, but, but, my “main man, Albert Wilson?

          • ladner morse

            You trying to make me vomit?

          • 100% behind this observation by Laddie.
            I think we may not acquire Jarvis L. == just sayin’.

          • mnelson52

            I said DRob would have a big impact last year by replacing Wilson. I didn’t realize at the time how much Reid and/or Dorsey loved Wilson. I still don’t understand.

          • ladner morse

            You and me both.

          • mnelson52

            I’m not sure how almost the complete fan base could disagree so much with management on a player

          • berttheclock

            I believe it has something to do with videos secreted in a vault somewhere. When, I was in Group S-2 years ago in West Germany, I worked under a Major who was promoted to Lt Col. He was so sloppy I truly believed he had dirty pictures of higher ups in DC in a vault in Switzerland.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            I’m bad at evaluating WR talent i reckon….I thought Hemingway was going to be a star–lol

          • mnelson52

            Well he was a 7th round pick..lol

          • berttheclock

            I still remember that stat from Northwestern which read two catches for over 100 yards. Never came close to replicating it with the Chiefs, but, he did play well on STs.

            But, Joel Stave has just hit Tevin Jones for a 68 yard TD for the Chiefs.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            exactly….it didn’t stop me from over rating him though–lol

  • berttheclock

    I still would like to know if that private jet which brought Erving to KCMO was one of Clark Hunt’s.

  • mnelson52

    Bray’s looking good

  • mnelson52

    Mahomes and Bray both would look awesome if there was a running game to help them

  • Heilios

    Escobar has great hands!

    • berttheclock

      Funny thing is earier, he dropped two straight passes from Mahomes II.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        I wonder what the ball speed difference between Mahomes and Bray?
        I used to play basketball with a guy who passed so fast that it was hard for me to catch it….no finesse what so ever.

        • berttheclock

          Remember the Elway cross which was named for the spot he would leave in the chest of players who let his passes hit their bodies?

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            Haha! I haven’t heard that in years!
            The tip of the football where the seams cross…….yeah I remember.
            Just wondering if that could be the reason Escobar could catch Bray and not Mahomes

  • got run out of the tv so i am not getting the game now. what is the score?

    • berttheclock

      KC 23, Tenn 6. Bray 2 yard TD pass to Escobar and Santos made the extra point.

    • they have dish throughout the facilities and I have an apartment for staff over the garage at what we know as the Wheelan House(Vets). The program here has 45 beds for vets, and there are probably another 20 or so who are full pay to live in the residence facilities. In Joplin, there are 7 mens homes and then we have 2 residence facilities in Arkansas for perhaps 30 additional vets who are doing a work/recovery program. 2 womens houses so about 160 population overall.

      For some reason, the physical antenna has problems here and won’t work in the apartment. I went down to watch the game in the residence living room but Arkansas was playing Florida A&M. That took precedence over my Chiefs.

  • berttheclock

    Alex “Vic” Tanney is 9 of 22 for the Titans. Remember when he tried out with the Chiefs, they used to show his trick videos of how accurate he was in hitting trash cans or throwing through tires?

    • ladner morse

      I remember Tanney’s trash can shots on YouTube… from every conceivable position and location.

      • berttheclock

        For the much much much younger set, the reason I add the nickname of “Vic” to him is due to Vic Tanney’s gyms around the country many years ago.

        • ladner morse

          I think he was the alternative to Jack LaLane.

    • something lost in translation. I am watching the raiders now. Lot of joviality on the Raiders side lines. Elliott, Seattle, just was hurt. inflatable around his ankle, carted off(2nd year CB). 10-0 Seattle approaching half time.. Raiders are looking pretty nil.

      • berttheclock

        Geez. I wonder how that will affect Schneider’s trying to dump Kearse. The only rumor I have read that made sense was one saying Kearse might end up with the Jets and Sheldon Richardson would be shipped to Seattle which needs more help on their defensive front with their top rookie injured.

    • Roswell Incident

      I remember the one in the basketball gym. “Trickshot” Tanney, I believe he was called.

  • berttheclock

    Joel Stave has just passed 68 yards to Tevin Jones for a TD. Chiefs 30, Titans 6.

    • now that’s very kewl. TJ has had a good camp and he is showing he can play. Stave is another story but without saying anything about it, I sorta like the kid and if can play, then what have we got?

      • ladner morse

        PS developmental QB

        • still begs the question of what are we doing really, with Bray?

          • berttheclock

            I keep saying to look for Veach to work a trade for him in the next two days.

          • when we had Foles, I was comfortable. I would have been good with that til we got the right QB. Well, that went with money and then PM. But it is still the same question. Get something for him and I hope you are right.

  • berttheclock

    Three minutes and 43 seconds left for several to wear the Red and Gold for the last time.

  • berttheclock

    Two minute warning. BTW, Bray was 6 of 8 for 63 yards and 1 TD tonight.

  • berttheclock

    Stave is in kneel downs. So, onward to the final 53.

  • Cowboys answer phones at a telethon. Jerry Jones called in, Dez answered. Jones donated $1M FOR HURRICANE RELIEF.

  • berttheclock

    Well, gentle folk, we await your threads beginning tomorrow. So, until that time, until that time.