Titans Slam Door: Windows Shatter

 

 

 

 

Any team in a championship season has to have a balance of young and experienced players as well as players who have been around three or four years with skills to execute a winning game plan in each of the playoff situations that may arise. The 2017 Kansas City didn’t have that right mix and consequently lost another home playoff game, this time to the Tennessee Titans, 22-21.

 

By halftime of this game, the Chiefs were up by a score of 21-3 and looked in command of the game. Then the Titans shut the Chiefs offense down in the second half and the normally reliable rookie kicker Harrison Butker missed a FG by hitting the left upright, a FG that would have been the deciding points. However this loss can’t be pinned on Butker alone. Speedy WR Tyreek Hill offered up three dropped passes. It’s hard to tell what a catch on each of those throws might have meant to the game but, he certainly wasn’t the “difference-maker” we were hoping to see on this day.

 

Chiefs Windows Closing

When the Titans finally slammed the door shut on this game, they also shattered the Super Bowl window for several Chiefs. Now, we don’t know what life may be like without: OLB Tamba Hali, ILB Derrick Johnson, and possibly even QB Alex Smith… but we’re soon to find out. After all, HC Andy Reid used the word “re-build” in his post game comments.

 

While many fans are hoping that QBOTF Patrick Mahomes II will take over at QB, there is no guarantee that he’ll perform up to the standards that Alex Smith has established this season. There’s no telling if he’ll ever reach this level again.

 

While we have all witnessed DJ growing older and slower… once again, there is not guarantee that his replacement will perform up to his standards. Plus, with DJ, it’s not just about the performing, he’s also a terrific locker room presence and leader and no one will ever truly replace him.

 

Dominating When Dominating is Necessary

The Chiefs loss was not about the Chiefs. In reality, it was about the Titans. In post game comments, Titan RB Derrick Henry stated exactly what it took to beat the Chiefs and dominate the 4th quarter: “Grit. It’s just grit.” Now, that’s the gene that the Kansas City Chiefs don’t — and haven’t — possessed. My 11 year-old grand daughter knew what was coming in the 4th quarter, a heavy dose of RB Derrick Henry toting the ball, yet the Chiefs couldn’t stop him.

 

The Chiefs M.O. has always been, “get ahead and hang on for dear life.” How may times have you seen them dominate the way the Titans did in the second half? What’s the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. That’s why so many Chiefs fans entered the last quarter of the game with a sense of impending doom. It was way, way way too predictable. That’s also why this game was all about the Titans.

 

However, that really only includes a conversation about the Chiefs Defense.

 

Offense Monopolizes, Then Goes Limp (Impotent)

After one successful drive after another for the Chiefs, in the first half, the Titans began the second half by scoring on a long 8-and-a-half minute drive making the score 21-10 and totally changing the complexion of the game. How did the Chiefs offense respond? A fruitless 3-and-out drive in while running less than two minutes off the clock and just as importantly, forcing the defense back out onto the field when they were already worn down. Punter Dustin Colquitt was hit on the punt forcing a re-kick but when the Titans fumbled the return and the Chiefs recovered, they went 3-and-out AGAIN. Harrison Butker missed the 48 yard field goal to end the Chiefs real chances.

 

On the Chiefs next drive, they were 5-and-out. That was also the last moment the Chiefs held an advantage on the score board. By the time that K.C. touched the ball after that, they were behind 22-21 and their fate was sealed.

 

While I’ve previously stated that I place the primary blame for this loss on the lack of strength along the offensive and defensive lines… the truth is, it’s takes a village to construct a collapse like we witnessed on Saturday. Sure, any number of plays could have turn this game in favor of the Chiefs… but… that didn’t happen. K.C. was built to lose this game, and they ever so generously followed suit.

 

The Injury Reason or Excuse

S Eric Berry, RB Spencer Ware, WR Chris Conley, OLB Dee Ford, WR De’Anthony Thomas, C Mitch Morse, TE Travis Kelce, and DL Chris Jones. It’s a formidable group to have missing from any game much less a playoff game. Can we say with certainty that this was the reason for the loss? Well, most all of those players were on the field last year when the Chief lost at home to the Pittsburgh Steelers… so the answer may be closer to, no.

 

Rough Ref Riffraff

I can completely agree with anyone who thinks the Chiefs got a bum deal from the referees in this game. I’m usually one who thinks that a team makes their own positive energy with the referees but some of the calls in this game were toally suspect. We’ve recently seen a number of plays called dead when Alex Smith has drawn DL into the neutral zone and even though they weren’t proceeding “unabated to the QB” the whistle has sounded and consequently… no free play for the Chiefs. However, in this game, Andy Reid had to bite his tongue after the game but a mammoth hit by Derrick Johnson on Marcus Mariota jarred the ball loose and the ball came out before he (Mariota) hit the ground and then the ball was recovered by Justin Houston. However, the ref said Mariota’s forward progress was stopped so the play was immediately dead. I’ve never heard of a strip sack being called a dead play before so, Chiefs fans have reason to be upset. But believe me… this is not “the” reason the Chiefs lost this game.

 

Playing the God-Blessed Curse Card

How may times are we going to hear that “the Chiefs are cursed” and that is the reason the Chiefs lost this year’s playoff game? Let’s consider:

 

1. Andy Reid has just become the first coach to ever blow multiple 17+ point leads in the playoffs,

2. Jeff Triplett, the head of officiating on Saturday, has retired. So much for accountability. BTW… the former head of NFL officials Mike Pereira called the officiating, and I quote, “Horrible.” Not to beat a dead horse, but that play where the Titans QB is hit so hard the ball comes lose and then it’s ruled a dead ball… that happened more than once in this game. Un-lucky in love… or a curse? You decide.

3. When is the last time you ever heard, or saw, a QB throw a TD to himself? And looking at Jon Gruden’s cell phone video doesn’t count.  FYI, I’ve looked at the tape of that play again and again and each time, Mariota is over the LOS before he releases the ball.

4. Perhaps USA Today put it best, “Despite having one of the proudest traditions in the NFL, and their stadium having a certain mystique about it, the Chiefs are miserable when the postseason rolls around.” Now, if the Chiefs win a postseason game next January, it will have been 25 years since the last time K.C. has won a home game in the playoffs.

 

Conclusion of Conclusions

While this game’s score turned out to be a complete disappointment, WR DeMarcus Robinson’s 4 catches for 57 yards has me excited to see what he can do next season. He’ll certainly be competition for Chris Conley and hopefully will become a regular contributor to the offense.

 

While I am still in the Patrick Mahomes camp as far as giving all the Chiefs gave to draft him last year, if the GM Brett Veach can find a way to keep Alex Smith at least one more year, it would be the best thing he could possibly do for this team’s offense.

 

The Chiefs are obviously going to need someone to feature opposite of Justin Houston and I’m still not sure that player is Tanoh Kpassagnon. At the very least, the defensive line must be bolstered. Bennie Logan hasn’t done anything to indicate he deserves another $10M contract. The run defense must be addressed. If DC Bob Sutton is fired, I’d be in favor of that, especially if Reid can bring in someone more dynamic.

 

Andy Reid mentioned more than once that several of these players would not be back next year and that the team that was on the field on Saturday… is no more. So, it’s clear to me that when the Titans slammed the door, windows shattered. Any thoughts?

 

 

 

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  • berttheclock

    Excellent breakdown, Laddie. May I add just one thing to your comments from above. You mentioned Colquitt repunting. Then, you mentioned the recovery of the fumbled punt. Both are true, except for the fact Reaser was involved in both cases. Colquitt was hit and a penalty flag was thrown. However, Reaser had made his second unsportsmanlike hit which negated the play and forced a repunt instead of moving the ball up five yards. But, Reaser tried to redeem himself by being the player who recovered the fumble.

    • freshmeat62

      I think they changed that 2nd unsportsmanlike to Eligwe. They said #40 at first then a bit later said “#45 Eligwe”.

      • Laurels and limitations

        This is factual, I remember that being repeated by Holthus while I was listening to it.

  • berttheclock

    As to the ever “astute” clueless Andy. At his presser, he appeared to be puzzled about the lack of handoffs to Hunt and said, perhaps, he should have used him more. Typical “Huh?” comment from the so-called offensive minded “genius”. “Hey Andy, why didn’t you use Charles more?”, answer, “I didn’t?” “Hey Andy, why didn’t you use Hunt more?” answer, “I didn’t?”. Remember the movie “Sleepless in Seattle”? With Andy, this has become an ongoing “Clueless in Kansas City”.

  • berttheclock

    PFF noted the NFL has not allowed Jeff Triplette to officiate any playoff games since 2013. Now, he has announced he will retire. He even told his fellow refs after the game he was retiring. So, did the NFL know about this prior to the game and did they allow him to ref the game as a farewell present? Also, when asked about the blown call on the so-called forward progress, he, simply, pulled the old drop the mic routine and refused to answer the question. Now, he will get to spend far more time in Sandy, Utah and never worry about blowing important calls ever again. He has been, for many years, a disgrace to officiating, yet, the NFL continued to carry him. I still maintain his service as an high graded officer in the NG of North Carolina came far more from being moved up politically than by meritocracy. Same as a NFL ref. Triplette knows how to play the political game.

  • berttheclock

    Open note to one Clark Hunt. If you really don’t wish to be interested in a winning, meaning winning playoffs type of team, for Kansas City, would you please sell your team to someone who would really care about it? Such as Mark Cuban, the current owner of the Dallas NBA team?

    After buying the club, Mr Cuban, please, fire the entire coaching staff and begin anew.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      Not sure we can blame Clark Hunt. He hired the best coach available in 2013. Chiefs have been up against the salary cap since Dorsey got here. Plenty of reasons Chiefs suck, but I’m not sure Clark is one of them.

      • Laurels and limitations

        Yup, I’m not sure how anybody can look at the work of Clark Hunt and say he hasn’t given valid effort. From Pioli to Veach and Haley to Reid, “The Clarks” have been very active and aggressive in looking for a winning combination.

      • berttheclock

        He put together the same unworkable formula which is being used in Cleveland by Haslam. That is having both the GM and the HC report directly to him. That system as David Bell has articulated ever so well is a very poor formula for success in any organization. The best system to be used is to have the owner hire the GM and have the GM hire his own HC. Thus, the only person who reports directly to the owner is the GM. The GM sets the tone and philosophy of the organization. This is the system being imployed with the Colts. Ballard only reports to the owner and Ballard will be the one who will hire his own HC.

        • berttheclock

          BTW, if the system used by Clark Hunt works so well, how come the Chiefs can not advance beyond the first round of the playoffs? Yes, there are a lot of regular season wins, but, that is very much akin to George Karl of the NBA winning many games, in fact, his winning record is just a few points lower than that of Andy Reid. But, neither, Reid nor Karl could win beyond an occasional first round win in the important playoffs and both of them only advanced to the finals of their respective sports once and both of them lost those games. As Michael Jordan said so well, there is the regular season and then, there is the all important playoffs. Winning a lot of regular season games is one thing, but, winning big in the playoffs is the ultimate goal.

          • Laurels and limitations

            1)Kc went to the 2nd round of the playoffs just last year.

            2) under Clark’s current system Kc has gone to the playoffs 4 times in 5 years, under the previous manner of the GM being all-powerful Kc went to the playoffs 16 times in 48 years.

            3) to advance in the playoffs you first have to get there.

            4) Kc Chiefs play football, not baseball or even basketball.

          • berttheclock

            Typical mush, Cut and Paste. As the old Turkish adage says, “Fear the ignorant man as he is more dangerous than a lion”.

          • Laurels and limitations

            Ignorant according to Webster’s dictionary: lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular.

            I posted facts from KC’s playoff history gathered from an accredited website. Not cut and pasted, assimilated and conveyed.

            You couldn’t even remember a single year back in KC playoff history. Why not bert, Wikipedia edit that out?

      • berttheclock

        When, Dorsey took over in 2013, there was a $14 M carry over in salary cap from 2012. In March of 2013, Bleacher Report noted the Chiefs had $16.8 M to spend at the beginning of FAcy.

        One major reason for the current lack of Cap space is due to John Dorsey being very poor at contracts. He could find talent, but, he needed a financial guru to make deals for him.

      • freshmeat62

        The one common denominator for the past 40 some years of lackadaisical, go w/ the flow, don’t cause ripples, attitude are Lamar and Lil Clark Hunt. Lamar I believe was afraid of his own employees, namely Steadman, and Lil Clark doesn’t know anything about inspiring anyone. Both of them had/have bleeeh personalities. Somebody in the organization has to have a ‘killer instinct’. I believe Peterson and Schottenheimer had it at the beginning of their tenures, but gradually lost it after about 4 or 5 years. They started getting desperate and reaching for players. I believe Dorsey might have had it, but Lil Clark didn’t understand that kind of attitude, and had to get rid of him. Dorsey had problems w/ the Cap, but he did a good job of beating the bushes and finding players. I’ll be very interested watching him in Cleveland, and seeing how much he learned. Between KC and Cleveland, lets see who has done better for the next 5 years. I’m betting on Cleveland!

        • Laurels and limitations

          Should be an interesting study. It will be neat to see how the early years in Cleveland treat Dorsey versus the early years in KC. High end draft picks and salary cap to play with.

          I’ll be paying particular attention to how Dorsey does if/when those high end picks and monies dry up.

          • freshmeat62

            I can’t wait to see who he takes 1st in the draft. Most mocks I’ve seen so far have Cleveland taking Darnold. I don’t think so. He reminds me to much of Kizer. I haven’t seen Allen play so I can’t judge him, but both Rudolph of Ok St and Rosen of UCLA look better to me. Heck I like Mayfield. He’d be quite a reach at #1, but I think he’s a winner.

          • Laurels and limitations

            I have zero idea as to the draft, I’m going to let CB and DCF do all the scouting then cherry pick off of them two. My schedule doesn’t allow for watching players during entire games and I think that is what is required to do an adequate job. Highlight reels are highlights for a reason, lol.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    If you start making a list of Chiefs biggest needs, you see why Smith is going to be gone. Not just the 17m in FA cash he can free up, but probably can get a pick or two for him as well. Chiefs need an Edge, CB, S, two DL, an OG or two, a TE, a possession WR and a back-up QB (two if Smith leaves). Smith can’t win a championship with this defense, let Mahomes smooth out the rough spots in his game when the season doesn’t matter. In 2019 or 2020, if Chiefs make the right moves, they could actually have a shot of getting some place, but they need Mahomes to be polished by then, not getting his first starts.

    • Laurels and limitations

      If Bray is willing to stick around he can still be an effective 2-3 guy on a cheap contract. I like the idea of continuing to kick the tires on a guy to develop even with Mahomes under center. If, IF, Mahomes is going under center.

  • Laurels and limitations

    These guys are hilarious

    Dear #ChiefsKingdom, Once again, our beloved Chiefs have put us through agony. So @ReggieComedy and I hope that this video expresses the roller coaster of emotions we're all feeling. Until next season…CC: @ArrowheadPride @610SportsKC @BobFescoe @EaWarfield44 @GeoffSchwartz pic.twitter.com/5Vc14r8lo1— Jonny Loquasto (@JQuasto) January 7, 2018

  • Laurels and limitations

    Just sitting here reading over box-scores, TOPs, and whatnot from Saturday’s travesty of a KC playoff-whatever-the-hell-that-was.

    total offensive possessions:
    Kc=10, Na= 10

    O-possessions in the 2nd half:
    KC=4, NA=4

    average plays per possession.:
    Kc 1st half= 5.5, 2nd half= 5.75
    Na. 1sthalf= 5.2, 2nd half= 9.75

    here’s a link to the play-by-play. Do with it what you will. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/playoffs.htm

  • Laurels and limitations

    This was called forward progress. Worst call in nfl history & forced a NFL referee to retire. Can’t make this shit up pic.twitter.com/DK7adHwt22— B Turn (@bturner23) January 7, 2018

    • Laurels and limitations

      sorry for the cuss word there folks, I didn’t proof read that thoroughly enough when I “cut and pasted”.

  • Laurels and limitations

    Hahaha!!!!

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  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    “Reid’s two blown leads of 18 points or more in the playoffs are as many as every other coach in the NFL since 1933.”

    It’s an MO that has sunk our ship once again…..I feel sorry for the players.

    • Laurels and limitations

      that’s a bad, bad statistic to own. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Reid that angry before. I fully expect heads to roll.

  • Laurels and limitations

    So, I’m still looking at the play-by-play from the game. I’m not so sure that the offensive game plan changed as much between halves as people believe. The one common denominator I keep on seeing (and yes I am partial) is the “short” pass. The big difference so far is the YAC by the receiver.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201801060kan.htm

    • I think you need to go back and look at the two possessions after the Chiefs went up 23-0. I think you will see my point. Also, in that first 4 series of downs, Hunt was mixed in. Maybe not enough, but enough to be effective. I will go back and watch the whole game again and probably again so I have time to look at both sides of the ball and the play that was entailed.

      • Laurels and limitations

        I’m getting ready to watch the game again since I have a little free time. I like to check what I “see” against what was actually reported to ensure by bias-ness doesn’t rear it’s ugly head.

  • I am still too disappointed to really get my head on straight. I think the article touched on so many things about this game, about this team, that it is going to take some chewing to gt my hands around it. Whether Triplette ref’ed another post season game or not, it should never have been a game in which KC appeared. Okay, the comments about Reid here, and in comments are important. He won’t get fired and that is what is needed. He is right, the locker room will have a lot of empty spaces. Bacon said yesterday that it is the culture. I am not sure Reid can preside over a shift in culture or not. More thoughts, thanks Laddie.

  • Laurels and limitations

    This is why you need aggressive CBs…I miss Dale Carter so damn bad.

    Look at No. 24 Darrelle Revis on Derrick Henry's game-clinching run. Gave up on the Chiefs most important play of the season. What an embarrassment. pic.twitter.com/k9B0oVeCfp— Manish Mehta (@MMehtaNYDN) January 7, 2018

    • He was a supposed experience addition late in the season. It is what it is. We didn’t fill that corner position in the off season last year. Should have but didn’t.

      • Laurels and limitations

        Kc spent what, 3-5?, draft picks on the position the year before., plus brought in FAs. I don’t believe that acquiring CBs was the problem, I think acquiring the RIGHT CBs was the problem.

        • Good point. But it wasn’t 5. What was needed was a pick that had a good shot at being a play-maker and they didn’t get that… and Dorsey drafted Russell. There was something there that was not seen before the draft. but Russell failed with ???. We drafted Murray and White. That is 3. Murray appears to be a player who will stick around but he was a later pick so what we get from him in his 3rd and 4th season if he is kept, is icing on the cake, presuming he is the 4th safety. I am as pissed at Revis but also Peters on that play and I am not happy about Zombo either.

          • Laurels and limitations

            valid, plenty valid

    • Zombo has the all crucial duty to seal the play inside. He didn’t.

      • Laurels and limitations

        Zombo might, he just might, but that does not mean that Revis gets to take the play off. I also always hesitate to say who has what responsibility on any given play…because unless we were in the huddle, or privy to the play-call we have no real idea.

        • not excusing Revis. Nor Peters. Before the play turns down field, it is Zombo’s job to make sure it is turned inside.

          • Laurels and limitations

            I’m just not sure on that one, what if DJ had called for the OLB to fill the inside gap and the RCB to contain instead? We just have zero idea of whose job outside contain is on that play. I remember watching more than once JH50 having the same thing happen to him on the left side and I won’t call JH50 bad at contain….we just don’t know.

          • Oh come on. There he was, coming outside in to make the tackle and the fake caught him, and he lost the edge. That was a pure straight up play.

          • Laurels and limitations

            Not disagreeing with that, I AM disagreeing that his responsibility was ONLY the outside on that play. Normally is the OLB’s job is turn the play inside you’ll see a Safety or ILB crash that hole…I don’t see one here. In fact, I don’t see an ILB period.

          • The Mike is to the right side of the defense. That is Ragland. The look inside was where Ragland bit. You see him trailing late to the ball.

          • Laurels and limitations

            do you remember at what point of the game this is in? I would like to see what defense KC was running at the time. That will tell us a lot.

          • Laurels and limitations

            looks like 4th, about 1:53 left.

          • Laurels and limitations

            You are NOT going to like this, not one bit. KC was set up for short yardage with Revis on the outside. Revis immediately crashes the interior. Parker had the left side receiver. Zombo didn’t do anything wrong that play, especially since the play was originally going in to the 4 gap.

          • you are right. I don’t like it, and don’t agree. Ragland hit inside, there is no one outside of Zombo. No matter what, he has the outside. This is regardless of what the ILB or Revis does. DJ is sealed to his left by flying bodies.

          • Laurels and limitations

            You will never, ever get me to agree with this take. 1st of all Ragland isn’t even on the field, so there is that.

            49 (DD) is in the Mike, DJ is SAM, Zombo is ROLB, JH is LOLB, Revis is RCB and he shift inside at the snap as Henry runs toward the 1 or 3 gap (hard to tell since he bounces it outside once the Chiefs crash the center). Parker immediately covers the vacated RCB zone vacated by Revis.

            Maybe this run was a designed delayed outside sweep, especially since Marriotta was blocking, but we’ll never know.

          • okay. What? DD? what number? 59? Thn he hits up to the LoS and fills way late trailing to th sideline. The only player on th right who could take the outside and seal is Zombo. Period.

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            Dirty Dan is number 49, he’s in the Mike spot.

            The defense ran was a zone defense.

            Revis gets sucked in for whatever reason, I really have no idea why, by the 87 of the Titans.

            Parker shifts to the outside yet gets blown out by a 82

            The d-line was filling gaps, it was the OLB job to crash the pocket unless I completely miss my guess I and I seriously doubt I do.

            If you really want to blame somebody, it should lay on the shoulders of a CB who decided that he needed to protect the backside of the ILBs by running 5 yards backwards and away from Zombo’s right shoulder pad.

            And there really is no “period” since we do not know the protection called. btw, are you watching the recorded game or the gif? because the wide view shows it a LOT better.

          • both. but okay. I don’t want to argue and start a fuss. I am going to fuss, but at the Chiefs, not you. 🙂

            I will commnt back later or at some other time when I have more time to review. Maybe there were multiple blown assignments.

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            and this is a very real possibility. I look forward to the conversation.

    • notice Peters wasn’t coming up to make a hit either. He was back pedaling instead of doing what was necessary to make the stop.

      • Laurels and limitations

        I missed that…yup…probably going for the strip again, lol.

        • Peters coming up to make a hit would have made a difference most likely.

          • Laurels and limitations

            Peters did make at least one tackle the other night I liked, but I’ll never put money down on him doing so on a regular basis.

  • Laurels and limitations

    Geez, looks like somebody is coming to the exact same conclusions I arrived at over the last couple days..

    Just charted the 2nd half snaps by the Chiefs offense vs TEN. Number of screens: 0. Literally ZERO. None whatsoever.There are a lot of really, really false narratives flying around right now about the offense in the 2nd half.— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) January 8, 2018

  • Laurels and limitations

    **TINFOIL HAT ALERT, TINFOIL HAT ALERT**

    Chiefs loss to Titans ensured the Patriots have easiest path to Conference Championship Game for the record 63rd straight year.— Ross Tucker (@RossTuckerNFL) January 8, 2018

  • Laurels and limitations

    Compiling a little more: per PFR.
    Carries by Hunt by qtr:
    1st= 6
    2nd=0
    3rd=2
    4th=3

    11 carries on the day.

    People are saying Reid went away from Hunt, I don’t think Hunt was ever the focus.

  • Laurels and limitations

    Sorry, not sorry, all you good peoples looking to can Reid. This guy makes a damn good point.

    We should just bring back Herman Edwards and Todd Haley. Hahahahahaha— Hunter (@PaidRegular) January 8, 2018

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Are those our only 3 options?

      • Laurels and limitations

        lol, yup, I guess so. hehe

        • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

          At this moment (at least unto I calm down) I would just assume go with Haley again, at least this time around he would have a much much more talented squad to work with.

          • Laurels and limitations

            I wonder how many games Haley would have benched Peters for?

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Go to your local pharmacy and beat your pharmacist with some wet noodles until he/she gives you a valium. You really need to calm down.

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            I do kinda miss Haley’s beat-the-hell-up hat.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Maybe the hat, but IMO, Pittsburg is still too close to KC for that SOB.

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            agree there

  • Laurels and limitations

    not going to happen today, but I’ll be unhappy if KC waits overly long to DO fire Sutton then puts some never-was/will be in his place.

    "Rumor has it Bob Sutton's not coming back. I think there's going to be a lot of changes on the #Chiefs defensive staff." – Mike Lombardi on the GM Street Podcast.— Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) January 8, 2018

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      It’s about time. Honestly, I can’t wait for next year. We may not win the division or we may not make the playoffs, but I believe 2018 will be the beginning of some of the most exciting football in Chiefs history.

      • Laurels and limitations

        I’m wondering about the core of Kc now. It used to be DJ/Hali/Berry/JH when he’s healthy…but now it looks as if the emphasis is on the offensive side with Mahomes/Hill/Kelce/Hunt and an o-line thatr has SOME consistency.

        I don’t think you can use Peters as a focal point in the youth movement on defense, I don’t believe for a single second that he could handle it mentally.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          If Houston can come back next year more to his old form (he seemed somewhat out of shape this year to me) and we get Berry back in good shape, I think our defense will be ok. It’s hard to field a complete team in this day and age with the cap and all. But a starting QB on a rookie deal helps.
          A youth movement on the defensive side is past due. Dorsey drafted 7 CBs and Peters and Nelson are far and away the best of the bunch, so I hope Veach can do a better job there.
          Don’t forget Jones, his upbeat personality might be a boon to a leadership role.

          • Laurels and limitations

            This is true, I also left out DCF’s guy Ragland who could possibly turn into a big deal. I gotta stop short on JH50 though until I see what a more aggressive scheme would allow him to do…the current scheme is not a good fit, imho.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Let’s hope a new DC understands what a premier pass rushers primary role should be.

          • Laurels and limitations

            and that premier pass rushers need help from the opposite side.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Oh now come on, we’ve had Ford part time and Zombo all year, and hells fire, Hali played about 13 snaps this year.
            More great work from the all world GM Dorsey. The more I think on this, the more I believe firing JD was the best move Clark could have made.

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            I couldn’t agree more with this if I tried, and I ain’t trying one bit. I know a lot of people think Dorsey is going to do great things in Cleveland and I agree that he will for the short term…but he’s going to burn a hole in that check book too if I’m not mistaken.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            With the number of picks he was handed along with the huge bank account, it will be hard for him to screw it up for a few years.
            I am not saying this because I want the Chiefs to switch to Mahomes (but this is going to happen anyway), the best thing Dorsey could do if he wants to win right away would be to trade for Alex Smith and then I would draft the Wyoming kid. Allen is raw and will need some time to develop, but probably has the highest ceiling and AS would give him the time and help to get there.

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            I’ll have to take your word on this kid, but I agree about the other points. Dorsey’s biggest benefit will be that Cleveland already has some good pieces in place….but then so did KC I guess.

          • Derek

            Well you have a project there already in Kizer…..I would take Mayfield if he wants another pat mahomes type of gunslinger that won’t be a burden if he’s not still a knucklehead lol

  • Laurels and limitations

    The Jaguars now have 3 home playoff wins in their history. The #Chiefs have 2. The Jaguars have been around since 1995. The #Chiefs have been around since 1960. https://t.co/gZtPctgxvm— ChiefsJayhawksRoyals (@CJR16255) January 7, 2018

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      FYI (I don’t believe this) but, many think the reason why the Chiefs seemed to get screwed year in and year out (QB forward progress??) is that the name Chiefs is politically incorrect…….looks much better on the NFL to have a champion named “Patriots”.

      • Laurels and limitations

        There are so many things happening behind closed doors in the NFL that I’m not sure what WOULD surprise me. I do think the NFL pushes an agenda. Ray Lewis, Payton Manning getting the last titles like stuff but I don’t think that they make a WWE type of thing out of games. I DO believe that refs are coached to look for opportunities to influence games towards said agenda though…so there is that.

  • Laurels and limitations

    ^THIS^, if organizations based their respective choices off of one game there are HOF players and coaches that would never have even sniffed Ohio.

    I don’t believe for one second that the Chiefs’ collapse or carolina’s defensive struggles this weekend will hurt the candidacies of Nagy or Wilks. If the Colts are basing their decision on just one game, that would be foolish. And Ballard is not a fool.— Bob Kravitz (@bkravitz) January 8, 2018

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Nagy didn’t have a lot to do with the Chiefs defense once again failing.

      • Laurels and limitations

        nope, no he did not

  • Laurels and limitations

    Chiefs' DL Chris Jones tore his MCL on Saturday, will undergo surgery and recovery time expected to be 8-10 weeks, per source.— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 8, 2018

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      8-10 weeks is all? My son had a MCL in school and it was 4-6 months, Iirc it was closer to 6.

      • Laurels and limitations

        that’s the exact same thing I was thinking when I read this. 8-10 weeks!? Maybe they are just talking about training time, not recovery time.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          DK, I’ve been out of touch a bit, i haven’t even watched this game yet. I think it’s called procrastination.

          • Laurels and limitations

            I’m not going to lie, I’ve watched it 3 times now. Twice this morning and there are a few plays that I have watched, stilled, watched, rewound, stilled, and watched again about 30 times. People are not going to like my taeks on this game, not one bit for the most part.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            I’m going to be busy today and probably some tomorrow. I’ve really been waiting until I can sit uninterrupted before I try to watch it.

          • Laurels and limitations

            hehe, take your time….it was a comedy of errors anyway.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            It sounds like the zebras performed their own circus.

          • Laurels and limitations

            Yeah, they just HAAAAD to one-up everyone, lol.

          • larry mckinney

            Stay away from the light! Stay away from the light!! And don’t go near the screen…

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            LOL!

          • ladner morse

            Only watch the first half.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Oh, no. If I don’t watch it all, my opinion will only be worth one penny!

  • Laurels and limitations

    ^THIS^ is where I am at…

    I think the defense had plenty of problems. I also think the biggest problem was when both sides of the football didn't complement each other.— Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) January 8, 2018

  • Laurels and limitations

    Great shot from ESPN Saturday…I guess Andy wasn’t lying pic.twitter.com/m2srBmA1co— Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) January 8, 2018

  • ladner morse

    Since Reid didn’t immediately have the words, “Alex Smith” flying out his mouth when asked, who will be your QB next year… then it seems rather likely to me that AS11 is no longer going to be the Chiefs QB… especially since Reid has said this will be a “re-building offseason” and that “many players will not be back.” Besides, “re-building” is really hard to do unless you have cap space to make changes… and since he can save the Chiefs about $20M in cap dollars by trading Alex… all roads lead to Mecca… err, I mean, Mahomes, right now.

    • Laurels and limitations

      thing is, did Reid actually say ANY names, either good or bad in nature? I agree though, I see a moniker change in my future very, very soon, lol.

      • PaulFromNorthMo

        Let me guess, Adios Alex?

        • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

          Nope

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Now that’s a surprise!! lol

      • larry mckinney

        Timely name change.

        • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

          hehe, I like it.

  • ladner morse
  • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

    "Joe Montana was the quarterback the last time the Chiefs won a home playoff game."@getnickwright reviews the Chiefs' long history of playoff heartbreak pic.twitter.com/5wQ7EO8lrw— First Things First (@FTFonFS1) January 8, 2018

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Unfortunately, I remember that one, all the ones since and several of them before.

      • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

        same here, come to think on it….what’s the reason we Chief again?

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          Something to do with deficiencies in our mental makeup, or so I’ve been told!!

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            Well, I know full well that EYE am stoopid, but the rest of yous got no excuses, lol.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Speek fur you self budie!

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            lmbo.

    • ladner morse

      Unfortunately, I remember too…………..

  • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

    Fact or fiction? I could well imagine Nagy in Sunday’s interview..’Reid called the bad plays, I called the good ones’.

    btw, if Nagy did actually call plays Sunday, at all, this makes me think that Reid should absolutely not allow his coaches to even entertain phone calls until after the season is over.

    Bears to hire Chiefs OC Matt Nagy as head coach, per @adamjahns pic.twitter.com/Z2Au2Auv9Y— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) January 8, 2018

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Bears? I didn’t even contemplate them.

      • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

        It makes sense, who’s the Kc guy who went there?

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          Oh that’s right, but wasn’t he pre Nagy?

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            I’m almost thinking I got my lines crossed here. The one thing I do know is that I read reports that Trubisky was Nagy’s guy coming in to the draft last year. That was probably huge impetus.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            That makes some sense.

  • ladner morse
    • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

      it’s inevitable.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Reid probably knew this before his presser, why he was talking so much about change. We’ll probably hear about Toub to Indy soon.

      • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

        good, then KC can hire Violi (sic?) back.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          ? You lost me on this one.

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            KC lost Toub’s assistant from the last few years. I’m misspelling the guy’s name I think. Anyway, the guy has been let go and should be available. It just seems kinda funny to me that Toub’s assistant leaves and so does KC’s ST’s play.

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Brock Olivo? Went to Denver?

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            that might be it, I wasn’t even close, lol.

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            Violi, smdh….

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Now, now. You had all the right letters!

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            so dang close, lol.

  • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

    Time for Eric Bieniemy to get his shot as #Chiefs OC— Ballot or the Bullet (@JJones816) January 8, 2018

  • ladner morse

    NFL.com is also reporting that Nagy will be the Bears next HC.
    “Matt Nagy expected to be hired as Bears head coach”
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000904284/article/matt-nagy-expected-to-be-hired-as-bears-head-coach

  • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

    ^THIS^

    Not trying to take anything away from Nagy here but…a year ago most fans didn't know who he was…Reid has a long line of coaches that come from his tree— LockedOnChiefs (@LockedOnChiefs) January 8, 2018

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Tons of “Yes Men” ?

      • mnelson52

        Which I think is one of the reasons Dorsey is gone. Reid wanted his yes men in position. I believe he thought Dorsey would be a yes man because they were friends that had worked together before. It didn’t happen. Dorsey did things his own way. That’s why he’s gone. I would rather fire Reid. He will always get in his own way in the playoffs. The longer Reid stays the longer we will do without the Lombardy.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      I still think the success of Pederson has helped propel Nagy upward sooner than he might have been.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        If Nagy goes on to propell the Bears to the top of their division like Pederson has, I will flip out….lol

        • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

          Would be just our luck, lol.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            Pederson has the Eagles playing 4 quarters……what a navel idea!

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            YES!!!! By jove, I think you are onto something here. Hey, I hear KC has an OC spot open…whatcha doing for the next fiscal year?

          • Chiefly Bacon

            Of course, Eagles also have a QB, OL and defense, well HAD a QB.

        • Derek

          No way. Trubisky isn’t beating Rodgers. Bears don’t beat the packers. Will not happen more than 5 times in the next 10 years. Same as San Diego unable to beat KC lol

      • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

        Yup, does anyone think that Chicago is just a HC away from being the Eagle’s though?

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          If Nagy can turn Trubisky into a Wentz, maybe sooner than you think.

          • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

            could be, could be…I’ll hafta look at some of the Chicago minutia (cap, congtracts, etc.) when I think about it. Seems kinda trivial to do so right now as changes will inevitably occur soon enough.

          • Derek

            You think trubisky is even half as talented as Carson Wentz? ? No way. I rate him as the 5th best prospect in the class. I had mahomes as the better talent but Watson as a better qb prospect still. Trubisky I had under Chad Kelly lol Mr. Irrelevant. I didn’t like very many of the kids that came out last year. This year is loaded with 2nd round project starting qbs though

          • PaulFromNorthMo

            Nope, I don’t think so, but apparently the Bears do, at least for now. It’ll take a couple more years to find out for sure.

          • there is something to be said for bringing younger men to the HC ranks. We’ll see. If what Reid said in the presser, that Matt called the successful plays he himself called the bad ones? That goes along with what I felt I observed. Anyway. The HC should have departed the kingdom and Nagy should have been promoted. And this goes back to a comment I made at the Time of Dorsey’s firing: Hunt fired the wrong ‘titular’.

  • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

    I’m about to flip my collective poopy (how’s that Laddie?) from twitter. The next person in any form public persuasion that says the Kc offensive game plan changed at half is gonna hear it. Kelce changed, that’s it.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      It changed some, that’s not what killed us, after Kelce went down, the Titans no longer needed to focus on him and they turn their attention to Hunt and rattling our offensive line.

      • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

        No Kelce, no deep shots.

        • PaulFromNorthMo

          I thought the refs provided the cheap shots………oh, you said “deep”, my bad

  • freshmeat62

    I see that unless we pay for cable or satalite, we’re shutout from watching the championship game tonite.

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Well, you know. If they didn’t pay the college players so much and tuition rates for the non-athletes is so low, they have to make money somehow! (sarcasm)

  • ladner morse
  • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

    ol’ boy was waiting with THIS post, lol.

    Could #Chiefs stay in house with their next OC? https://t.co/v5kZGPClp4— Chiefs Wire (@TheChiefsWire) January 8, 2018

    • PaulFromNorthMo

      Might as well, especially if Reid will continue to call plays.

      • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

        hehe

  • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

    pretty dang impressive

    So now 7/32 head coaches in the NFL will be from the Andy Reid coaching tree. More than 20 percent!Reid – KCJohn Harbaugh – BALRon Rivera – CARDoug Pederson – PHITodd Bowles – NYJSean McDermott – BUFMatt Nagy – CHIIf Pat Shurmur lands a gig, 1/4 of NFL = Reid tree.— Will Brinson (@WillBrinson) January 8, 2018

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      It’s pretty clear people like what they see from an Andy Reid coached team………..especially when they are playing against him in the playoffs.

      • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

        hehe!!

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Heads starting to roll. Nagy hired away, Childress retiring, Sutton gone. Might see more departures when we hire a new DC.

    • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

      Sutton is gone? this happened already?

      • Chiefly Bacon

        Yep. Posted up a tweet on Laddie’s piece about Nagy.

        • VIVA LA MAHOMES!!

          lol, I missed the other thread.

      • Derek

        Bob Sutton is gone? Really? Oh excellent. Finally!

  • ladner morse

    Big News reported over on the other article…
    .
    http://arrowheadone.com/chicago-name-chiefs-matt-nagy-next-hc/

    • jimfromkcj

      Laddie, I keep hearing more and more that Reid should go too. I have never been a fan of Reid, but who in their right mind could conceive that you could get any coach worth his salt to take a head coach’s position with a team that is in such a disarray as the Chiefs? Highest paid saftey and OLB in the league, Cap in the hole close to 5 mill. dead money close to 6 mill. No 1st round pick and only 3 picks in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rds. Other teams in the division ahead in rebuild or reload positions. Just not much to look forward to.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/red-zone/article193551879.html Terez Paylor says he thinks Eric Bienemy the most likely candidate for OC. Wants to do more with his coaching career than just RB.

  • Jeff Morton

    Feels more like instead of Tenn slamming the door that it got shattered because KC tried to run through it and didn’t realize it was closed.

  • I am pleased for Nagy.

  • L&L. I just watched a replay of Indy Redux. On the play in question, ,Reggie comes into pan at the sideline the tackle having been made. Not to belabor the point, but that is correct. Other than that, this is not why th Chiefs lost th game. They were flat in the 2nd half. Thy did not play as a champion contender. Leadership was not present on the field or sidelines. There is enough blame to go around.