Week 13: Chiefs At Jets OPEN THREAD

 

 

 

 

The Kansas City Chiefs have another chance to redeem themselves today where they failed miserably two weeks ago at MetLife Stadium but this time vs. the New York Jets. When the season began the Giants were projected to be Super Bowl contenders while the Jets were projected to deserve the first pick in the 2018 draft. Now, the Chiefs face a tougher test in the Jets but they’ve already lost to the Giants.

 

The Common Misperceptions

Some may feel that the Chiefs need to come out fired up if they want to succeed. However, a more accurate take of the Chiefs recent offensive woes is that they need syncopation. What has betrayed them is any “coordination” from one person to the next. Yes, they need to execute but execution doesn’t tell the whole story, e.g. a WR could properly execute a route into the flat but… end up standing in the exact same spot that another WR is standing to receive the ball… just like Albert Wilson and Tyreek Hill did last week. It’s less about the team looking foolish — which they did — than it is about knowing and following your role within the schematic of a given play.

 

Many have criticized the Chiefs offense for being too complex but Albert Wilson is in his 4th season with the Chiefs and Tyreek Hill has already shown he’s a fast learner. Some can claim a “lack of focus” but the plays called are all within a game-strategy the players were aware was going to be followed a week (at least) prior to the game. It’s been speculated that Eric Fisher has looked like he was trying to help his line-mate out, Guard Zach Fulton, last week but that’s precisely an example of what I’m referring to… exposing what happens if each player doesn’t do their own assignment. When I say “assignment” this is less like, “Oh, Joe didn’t do his assignment for Math class, he might fail this weeks exam” … and more like, “Oh, Joe didn’t take care of his assigned job on this house construction, and now we’ve finished building the whole house without any plumbing.”

 

Another misconception is that the Chiefs must “dominate” the offensive line of scrimmage. I have news for you, the Chiefs don’t “dominate” anyone with their offensive line. I must confess when I say this, they’re not meant to. The best they can hope for is to… out-finesse other teams. That’s their real goal. More than any position group on the team… the offensive line must be exacting in their performance from play to play. This means each starter on the OL must know which foot to use when taking their first step on any given play. How to keep their weight balanced over their feet and shoulders. Positioning is everything for them. Plus, it’s not just about positioning of their own body but in juxtaposition to each other. To do that, they must always know who’s going to take which defender. That’s why you see so much pointing going on as the OL approaches the LOS. They’re not just identifying Mike LBs or defenders who might be about to blitz, they’re trying to get their assignments straight.

 

In recent weeks we’ve seen the normally dependable RT Mitchell Schwartz take a deep drop only to have an OLB cut inside to get an angle on Alex Smith and… we’ve seen LT Eric Fisher not take a positive and hard jab-step backwards with his left foot to stay in front of a speed rusher and… we’ve seen Zach Fulton too slow of foot to get his feet-and-body in the right position on a DT taking an inside route to the QB. The list goes on, so if the Chiefs are going to turn it around on offense, their OL must be technically sound. Together. Consistently. There have been too many failed drives lately due to one misstep or another by this group and the reason for QB Alex Smith’s happy feet may be that the OL have had so many sad feet.

 

We’ve Heard it All Before

The N.Y. Jets… HAVE A SUSPECT OFFENSIVE LINE, and consequently, the Chiefs DL should have a good week against them. Until the Chiefs DL actually produces pressure on an opposing team’s QB, then there is no “should have.” I’m a fan of the CB Darrelle Revis signing and if he’s any good at all — and my guess is he will be more motivated vs his ex-team mates — then the amount of time the DL has to “get to” the QB, Josh McCown in this case, should be enough to make a difference. Marcus Peters, Steven Nelson and Darrelle Revis have the potential to be an excellent trio of coverage CBs but… seeing is believing at this point in the K.C. Chiefs season.

 

My Game Day Prediction

I’ve noticed a pattern in the Reid-led-Chiefs over the past several years and that is… when backed into a corner (except for the playoffs), they doo well. This appears to be one of those times. While this is not a do-or-die game, I think the Chiefs are due… as opposed to being doo-doo. I think the players are out to set the record straight this week and the Chiefs come out on top: Chiefs 24-Jets 13.

 

So, what are your predictions? Or, do you think this will prove they are more… doo-doo than simply due?

 

 

 

 

 

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  • PaulFromNorthMo

    I think the Chiefs win 27-22.

  • Heilios

    Don’t fear! The most super awesome Saturday writer is here!

  • Jeff Morton

    Here’s hoping Nagy calling plays does something positive.

  • drwillez37
  • drwillez37
  • Heilios

    Go chiefs!

  • Heilios

    Let’s see how Nagy does!

  • Heilios

    Good catch Robinson. High throw

  • Heilios

    Great run Kelce!

  • Heilios

    Nagy playcall is working well

  • Heilios

    3 plays 3 first downs. Much better than last week

  • Heilios

    The first play not to net yards was a run by Hunt. We need the running game to get going

  • Heilios

    Td kelce!

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      good news

  • Heilios

    Great pocket presence by Smith. Not getting rattled and finding kelce on the outside

  • Heilios

    So maybe Nagy will be the savior for the offence?

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      how many of those plays were WR screens?

      • Heilios

        Not a single one

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          That helps when the D doesn’t know the pass play that is coming.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Nagy! Nagy! Nagy!

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    On that TD it helped that the defense bit on the the Wilson decoy.
    Last week Kelce was the decoy and the call was to Wilson, but the defense didn’t bite.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Gee I wonder why
      : )

  • Heilios

    Hill!

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    See!!!!!

  • Heilios

    Holy hell deep pass to Kelce! TD Kansas city!

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Smith baby!!!

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Damn!

  • Jeff Morton

    Nagy for President!

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Maybe all the AS hate should have been directed at the Reid play calling as of late. This start is evidence of that.

    • Heilios

      Right on!

  • Heilios

    This is what should have been happening all season long

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Where are the Jets ranked defensively?

      • Heilios

        20th I believe

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          I just looked it up. 15th vs the pass

          • Heilios

            Even better than I thought

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            They are 25th vs the run.
            So, there is your 20th overall average.

            Knowing that, they gotta get Hunt going in this game.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        Not sure and I know where you are going with that…..what we are excited about is Nagy has them looking downfield, not sideways like Reid

  • Heilios

    Ok Nagy don’t get conservative ala Reid. Go for blood and run up the score!

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Revis getting in there on the tackles

    • Heilios

      He wants to show he still has got it

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Was Peters asking him what he was doing there?

  • Heilios

    Tighten up the run D guys.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Great hole created by the Jets OL

  • Heilios

    What was peters waiting on? Christmas?

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Peters with the good tackle there pulling the receiver backwards

    • Heilios

      After sitting out of the play originally. He needs to be better

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        True

  • Heilios

    Dirty Dan getting pressure cleaned up by DJ

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    If there is one thing that the KC D should be EXPERTS at, it is seeing the short pass game and stopping it.
    They saw it a lot in practice

  • Jeff Morton

    Can we get the O and D playing at the same time?

  • Heilios

    I don’t know if that was a hold by#88 on zombo

  • Heilios

    Out of bounds

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Dirty Dan no match for that mountain

    • Heilios

      It was a great block

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    That is what the KC run game should be able to do vs NYJ.

    Way to go KC D to stopping all momentum that was there.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Hold em!!!

  • Heilios

    Stuff the run hold them to three!

  • Heilios

    Arm tackles don’t work

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    They were holding big time…go back and watch in slow mo

    • Heilios

      Home field advantage

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        Yep…..I believe it was Zombo that had his jersey being held

  • Heilios

    Alright Nagy, respond with a huge play for a td. Don’t get conservative

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      It’s pretty clear we can no longer rely on our defense to keep us in the game.

      • Heilios

        Not against the run

  • Heilios

    Terrible kick

  • Heilios

    He was out of the pocket. That’s what I thought

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    The pressure is on

  • Heilios

    Kelce was open but smith was hit as he threw.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Those are the plays that lead to INT’s

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    What was that Alex??

    • Heilios

      A crappy throw. Hunt was open

  • Heilios

    Calm down. Wide open hunt was missed

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Those first two TDs were awesome and I loved what I saw, but at some point the enigmatic running game needs to be addressed, we can’t be one dimensional.

    • Heilios

      Hunt needs to get rolling which means our oline must do something other than lay down

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        As long as they lay down on top of the DL, I’d take it

  • drwillez37
    • JimHarbaughsguys

      What am i looking at here?

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        He is at the game…that is his view

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Nice seats!

  • drwillez37

    The rover from nova

  • Heilios

    Mccown threw a dart

  • Heilios

    This just in…. Marcus Peters tackled somebody!

  • Heilios

    Good stop Parker

  • Heilios

    Hold them!

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      NYJ are not playing to lose this game.

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Another 9 yard run allowed by the KC D.

    Meanwhile, Foster in SF got Nov defensive player of the month with 30 tackles.

    Thanks KC!

  • Heilios

    Well hell

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Revis getting burned

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      I want Gaines!!

      Ha. Kinda.

      • Heilios

        Shut your mouth!

  • Heilios

    Offsides! Seriously?

  • Heilios

    Bailey is gone.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Our defense has become a defense that team aren’t scared to go for it on 4th down.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      What does the KC do well this year?
      They were good at getting turnovers the past three years. Not this year.

  • the 44 yard play is the killer on this guys.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      9 yard runs are the killer. Not the first one of the game.

  • Heilios

    They got it

  • Heilios

    That was a bad call by the ref. They clearly got that in the endzone

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      bad refs make bad calls for both teams.
      Paid off refs make bad calls for only one team

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Ironically, I think the first one went in and the one they just gave them the touchdown on was short

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    @ drwillez37 •

    Are the NYJ playing lots of cover 2 so far?

  • Consider: KC 14 points in 1st quarter, success on 2 of 3 drives. That is a huge improvement. However, the defense is being exposed again.

  • Heilios

    So the Chiefs come out swinging and fall flat on their faces. The jets come out anemic and right the ship with 2 unanswered scores

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      That’s the skinny

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Be fair now. It was only 1 unanswered score so far. KC’s O has to get the chance to fall flat on their face first before you can say that.

      • Heilios

        True

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          Well, the offense did move the ball, but have no points to show for it.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    That wasn’t real brave but, smart

    • Heilios

      No point getting blown up for no extra gain

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        I agree

      • Heilios

        Also with the angle they were taking he could have had the ball come free. I don’t mind that decision at all

        • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

          I like the decision too, I thought it was a smart move….just not brave…lol

  • Heilios

    Good catch wilson

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    143 yards allowed by the kc D in that first quarter and they didn’t get the ball to start the game.

  • tm1946

    Just got here… TV announcers said “two desperate teams”, one running play by Chief’s Hunt, score tied… what is going on?

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      No runs by KC, AS started hot, was not good last drive.
      KC’s D had one good drive to start and has been utter shit since.

      • tm1946

        Who does it appear is calling plays… tons of media say Nagy was supposed to do it?

        • Heilios

          Nagy is

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          Supposedly Nagy.
          No WR screens yet, so yeah I’d agree with that.

          No news yet on if the KC even has anybody calling defensive plays yet. Still waiting on that news.

  • Heilios

    Run it down their throats Hunt!

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Or just run it once.
      That whole first quarter went by and not a single rush attempt

      • Heilios

        They had one. It just went nowhere

  • Heilios

    There we go. Get some positive rushing yards!

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Rushing yards
    Jets 59
    Chiefs 4

  • Heilios

    Good fight there Hunt. Never goes down with the first contact

  • Heilios

    That was a crap throw by smith. Way too high

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Smith seems to be having a problem with his short out passes

  • Heilios

    VIVA LA BUBBLE SCREEN!

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Get Hunt into the passing game.

  • Heilios

    In the second quarter the first screen pass of the game. Good changes

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      To who?
      RB I’m good with.
      WR I’m not

      • Heilios

        Hunt

  • Heilios

    Horsecollar!

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Man that looked like a facemask…guess not

    • Heilios

      I thought it would be a Horsecollar since he pulled him down with the back of the helmet

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Slant route!!!

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      No way!!

      I’ve been yelling to get that pass route into the offense forever now.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        Two in a row for a first down too!

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          That is how Jerry Rice became the best ever running that route to perfection.

  • Heilios

    I love quick hitters!

  • Heilios

    Well crap Morse is hurt again

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Hopefully it’s nothing serious

      • Heilios

        Looks like he rolled his ankle

  • Heilios

    Lets go Fulton lets go!

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Well that’s a first. LMAO

  • Heilios

    That could have been a gift interception

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      what happened?

      • Heilios

        Smith was blown up as he threw and it floated in the air for forever

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          but it was AS fault that he was hit as every fan knows.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        Smiths elbow got hit and he threw it 20 yards straight up in the air

      • tm1946

        Looked like Alex dropped to far back and the DL could run by blockers.

  • Heilios

    Bubble screen to Wilson was bobbled

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      ugggg

      Replace all WR screens with slant passes. AS has to throw the ball the same distance in both cases, only he throws them up field with the slant and not for 0 yards like we do on WR screens.

      • Heilios

        If Wilson would have held on to it he would have gained 10+ yards. The blocking in front was near perfect. He just had butterfingers

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          I just don’t like to use WR’s on screens. Why can’t your WR’s block? Give it to Hunt on the screen, then you have some OL and WR’s block for Hunt who doesn’t go down with one guy.

  • Heilios

    Damn Butker missed the field goal

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Butler missing FGs….we’re F…..

    • Heilios

      His first miss in months. I can forgive him

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        When the KC D is giving up TD’s like candy, it is hard to forgive it.
        Not that FG’s will match TD’s

  • Heilios

    Holding. Clear holding.

  • Heilios

    Revis had his first tackle as a chief

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Good news is….last time Butker missed a FG he went on a terror after that.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Nice stop Ragland

  • tm1946

    Who is beside Ragland?

  • Heilios

    I am really liking the pickup of Ragland. He is one of the few on the team that can pick up the run

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    We get killed over the middle on a regular basis

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Run, pass, blowing gas. Doesn’t matter.

  • Heilios

    Mccown is ancient! Don’t let him run!

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      So is Hali.
      Is he playing? He was supposed to come back a few weeks back, and i have not seen his name making a play since.

      • tm1946

        Chiefs site says he is inactive… might be one of those famous Chief’s off the injury list who are healed only … not strictly the truth

    • tm1946

      For an ancient… got a little go left.

  • Heilios

    Good stop!

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    When Dan has his hand on the tip of the ball like that he needs to give it a tug

  • Heilios

    We need to trade for Luke Keuchly. I would **** myself if we were to do that in the offseason

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      How?
      No 1st round pick. And Carolina has Newton who they are tied down too so they won’t trade AS for him.

      Giving up this years 1st for PM was a big mistake.

      • Heilios

        I think it will pay off in the end. Remember for every 32 first round picks over half never pan out. If Mahomes become terrific no one will say a single word about 2 first round picks.

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          Only Jeff George was traded for 2 1’s in the history of the NFL when it comes to drafting a QB.

          • Heilios

            And now PM2. Think about it though. Who have we drafted in the past few years in the first round that has been so fantastic to give up the potential for a franchise quarterback? Fisher? Ford? Peters? Id trade all three for a superstar quarterback in a heartbeat

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            You could have drafted Foster who would be stopping those 9 yard runs from happening and improve the run D immediately on this team.

          • Heilios

            But they didn’t. They drafted a quarterback and that won’t change. Hindsight is 20/20. What if Foster disappears next year and Mahomes lights the world on fire?

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            LB’s rarely vanish. LT didn’t. Willis didn’t. Thomas didn’t. When a LB has a great rookie year, they typically back that up with many more.

            The opposite can be said of QB’s. If they are any good at all, they often take a step back in their 2nd year. And many times, the QB’s suck in their rookie year.

            And do you see PM lighting anything on when the KC D allows a bad team to look at getting over 500 yards?

            Because that is what PM was having to do in college. And he lost more than he won there when he was in that spot. Why would he suddenly be better with the same situation playing against a lot tougher opponents in the NFL compared to college?

          • tm1946

            How does Ford fit in the conversation? LOL

          • tm1946

            Predict Mahomes will be fine and if the roster was better, no issue but next draft will be 4 kids… not saving any games in 2018… another draft that will help in a year or two.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      **** <—
      Changing that from one cuss word to another changes everything..lol

  • drwillez37
    • drwillez37

      Peters taking a knee

  • tm1946

    Sorenson playing LB again?

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Hey….a defensive stop!

  • Heilios

    Finally a stop. Good job. Now Hill get us some points on the punt

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      The Bears just did on a punt return.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Lol….that was weird

  • Heilios

    Smith!

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Caught his own TD pass
      : )

      • Heilios

        Damn near

  • Heilios

    He wanted to dial his number up again. No one was open

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Missed Robinson for the TD there Alex!

    • Heilios

      Pretty tight coverage though. He could have thrown a pinpoint throw though

    • tm1946

      Was looking left until to late… had he stood up and fire early, might have hit Kelce but both seem to be late in progressions.

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        Then who was first and why can’t they do their job?

        • tm1946

          Not sure… probably #1 receiver was well covered, then the rush gets going, Alex tends to run if he does not see it open right away… by then Kelce was already closed on and Robinson was clear on the wrong side of the way the play was supposed to go

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Come on Alex, throw the damn ball

  • Heilios

    The Buttkicker is back. On to 50 straight field goals made

  • ladner morse

    OMG!

    • Heilios

      Where you been Laddie?

      • ladner morse

        Just woke up. Sleep apnea.

        • ladner morse

          How has Revis looked?

          • Heilios

            Meh

          • Heilios

            Missed tackles and slow.

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            He’s been watching the game on the field…when he’s been on the field from what it sounds like.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            Terrible

          • tm1946

            ???? 11 months and not sharp…. granted but really want Gaines out there???

          • Heilios

            Gaines is the official jock strap holder for the Chiefs. Something a little more his speed

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            No, but that doesn’t change the fact that Revis has wiffed on several tackles so far.

        • Heilios

          You know what’s funny is our offense just woke up too!

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Take away AS run, and KC has 17 yards rushing on 6 carries and that is it on the ground.

    Come on guys. NYJ suck big time vs the run!!

    • ladner morse

      Have we run any jet sweeps? That should work.

      Sorry… been asleep.

      • Heilios

        VIVA LA JET SWEEP!

      • tm1946

        I knocked out 18 quick holes after church and before turning on the tv… Chiefs did fine without me and I got a couple of birdies….Come out to KS and play…. no sleep for you.

    • tm1946

      Just because a team sucks at one level or another has never stopped the Chiefs from looking a little worse….

      In old days, pre Reid, we made more backup QBs look like HOFers than about any team since Mia had that fish in a swimming pool on game day.

  • Jeff Morton

    When was the last time we got a sack? I think our line coaches need to go (I know, one is Andys’ kids and isn’t going to happen, but…)

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Burned up the middle yet again

  • Jeff Morton

    It’s so hard to root for this team.

  • Heilios

    Finally dialed up pressure

  • ladner morse

    Jets seem to have the Chiefs D figured out.

  • Heilios

    Mccown looks like Brady out there. We need some pressure Sutton

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      How Houston been rushing the QB today?

      Because if he has, he should have been destroying the NYJ

      • tm1946

        Saw one play with KPass in his spot

      • Heilios

        Sutton is putting him in coverage more and more

  • tm1946

    All those Revis guys… Peters got burnt also. Giving big cushions to receivers.

  • Heilios

    Zombo wasn’t buying that trick play! Good stop

  • Heilios

    He was down before crossing the goal line

  • Heilios

    Hes short

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    the middle has killed us all day

    • tm1946

      Not playing 2 deep S with Sorenson playing that hybrid LB

  • Dave

    Its just an 8-8 type of team we have here

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    KC D needs to shut the hell up and play the game.
    They suck!!!!

    • Heilios

      Right

    • tm1946

      Not sure the defense has not sucked most games but the offense really stinking has taken the focus off Sutton… we are not what we thought we were after 5 wins.

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        Your offense gives you 14 points on the road to start the game, and the D just gave it right back.

        That idea that KC d is great in the redzone and how they only allowed Pitt 6 FG’s means that they are good…this season shows that was pure luck at stopping teams in the redzone. Because they can’t stop anybody this year.

        NYJ are 3/3 in the redzone.

  • Heilios

    I declare shenanigans.

  • Dave

    Here comes Alex to pull it down and run over and over again on the way to no points

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      KC has 17 yards without AS.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    I don’t want to see a knee in these 23 seconds

    • Heilios

      Better not

    • tm1946

      Not sure we can do anything with it and would hate to give the Jets a extra score.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        Can’t say as I disagree with that, I just want to see some signs of not laying down

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Weak!!!

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Toss it deep and maybe get a PI that allows for a FG

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Exactly!!

    • KCMikeG

      WTF!! Just let the clock run out with a TO left! You suck Reid!

      • tm1946

        Not a fan of Reid but not sure what play would have been in the play book that could have covered that much yardage…. we do not regularly throw that deep with success. Unless Jets left the field or we busted something… imagine a Jets S was on the 10 yard line to protect.. not like Jets are not playing to win.

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          Actually KC has been pretty good on deep passing this year and this game.

        • KCMikeG

          Hail Mary – what do we have to lose – nothing!

          • tm1946

            INT and returned for a td??? THREE THINGS CAN HAPPEN WHEN YOU THROW A PASS… AND TWO ARE BAD.

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            KC would really have to suck to give up a TD on a hail mary pass that would basically get to the endzone.

            So that is a return of 100+ yards.

            Which may very well on this KC team, so maybe you’re right.

          • KCMikeG

            INT has no cost unless returned which is incredibly unlikely. TD or PI call are positives.

  • tm1946

    Jets 258 yards in one half, not bad for a bad team.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Well, the D stops it at 260.

  • Dave

    Nagy Play Calling looks like Andy Playcalling all flash and fizzle to start, all crap to finish

    • tm1946

      Let’s see what we do after the half… does either the offense and/or the defense make adjustments … in many past games what did not work the first half is all we did the rest of the game.

      • Jeff Morton

        On our W streak, 2nd half is where we owned teams. Not saying it’s going to happen now, but what the hell, I didn’t think we’d hang a quick 14 either.

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          KC did that by running the ball!!

          Ever since the Pitt game, they can’t run the ball at all in the 2nd half.

  • Heilios

    Pass interference? Nope

  • Heilios

    Man. We should be steamrolling the jets. There had better be some big adjustments after the half

    • Dave

      steamrolling? We are a shit team they are a shit team

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Our defense has been a joke….not sure how you can steamroll a team like like.

  • tm1946

    Just me, but the highlights of the league…. they cherry pick plays but does it seem that our Chiefs are the lightweights of the league… nice, average team and the other seem to have bigger, tougher rosters? We win and I will change my mind… I guess.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Halftime highlights all about the Jets….nothing about our 2 TDs or Alex’s 70 yard run.

    • tm1946

      Am sure the league would rather a NY area team get support over a KC area team… just business, nothing personal. Of course if we won, then they have to talk about us …. remember when we had 5 wins…. Just business.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      NY bias there.

    • Dave

      old news team has gone back to looking like they did previous weeks

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Dan Fouts looking old

    • tm1946

      You should see me… do not recognize the guy I shave mornings.

  • Heilios

    Good coverage Mitchell

  • tm1946

    TV guys say Andy Reid was unavailble for comment at half…. wonder if he is aware the game has started???? LOL

    • KCMikeG

      He did the same last week. What can he say> I’m doing a shitty job?

      • tm1946

        It is my fault…. got to do a better job…. OR… look at the KC Chiefs pamphlet of Reid comment….. #1 and #3, thanks for listening.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        “Gotta do a better job”

        • KCMikeG

          It’s on me……

          • tm1946

            #5

  • tm1946

    See the Defense is still running Sorenson up on the DL as a hybrid whatever.

  • KCMikeG

    IF Parker had wrapped up on the tackle or DJ had put a hit on Forte they would not have scored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • tm1946

    McGown sure looks like a decent old guy….. Lets keep Mitchell on the field and Revis sitting

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      And McGown sucks.

      • tm1946

        But not against the Chiefs…. no one sucks against the Chiefs right now.

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    If NYJ can’t convert the 3rd, KC will make sure of it by giving it to them.

  • tm1946

    Receiver pulled Mitchell 4 yards for the 1st down…

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Missed assignments….you are seeing Chiefs players getting frustrated with each other more and more

  • KCMikeG

    WTH happened to this team? We are struggling for three weeks in a row against crappy teams!

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Will NYJ go for it and embarrass the KC D if they don’t convert on 3rd?

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      They always convert on third

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        See. You’re right

  • ladner morse

    Hard to believe this.

    • Dave

      really ladner? lol

      • Jeff Morton

        D had actually been playing pretty well since the Oak game. I don’t think it’s hard to believe KC is losing, just the way it’s happening this particular game. That’s just my thought, not sure what Ladner meant.

        • ladner morse

          Hard to believe… this losing streak is going on and on.

  • KCMikeG

    Peters should be benched!! He doesn’t even try!!!!

  • tm1946

    Peters sure looks like a all pro… give him a big pay day.

    • Dave

      i hate the idea of paying him

      • tm1946

        And just think… he is our best CB, possibly the only one worthy of the title.

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        At this rate, he’ll be paying KC to play for them

  • Jeff Morton

    I was just going to write if McCown had thrown an incompletion. There’s one anyway.

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    NYJ should go for it. I would.

    • tm1946

      Chiefs will not quit…. better take every point you can get.

      • Dave

        sarcasm?

        • tm1946

          Nope, absolutely believe we can still win this game. One step at the time.

    • Jeff Morton

      I would, too. Nothing to lose.

  • KCMikeG

    ALL that $$$$ and I haven’t heard Houston;s name ONCE ALL DAY! WTF???

    • tm1946

      Saw him on the field.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Is he playing at the line this game, or in the secondary?

    • ladner morse

      You just did say his name.

    • tm1946

      After the game, if Reid honors us with a presser…. bet not a single reporter will have the balls to ask WTF the Chiefs are doing with their highest paid, lower result future HOF OLB….got enough cash to front the bet

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    A scoring drive here damn it!!

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Pussy NYJ

    • ladner morse

      Does that make KC… pussier???

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        For not doing anything to end the half, yes it does.

      • tm1946

        DEAD…. just waiting for the dirt to be shoveled in… unless we win.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Dang near every time they run the ball, they get a minimum of 5 yards…..makes you wonder why they wouldn’t just go for it.

      • tm1946

        Defenders are giving 5 yard cushions for some reason… ask Sutton.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Nice!!!!

  • Heilios

    Great response! Hill!

  • Jeff Morton

    We should go deep to Hill every down.

    • Dave

      just go deep more often

      • Jeff Morton

        Oh fine. Be reasonable.

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Damn Alex

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    A Hill of a throw??
    Good one…lol

  • ladner morse

    It’s about time. But… KC needed to possess the ball a long time so their defense could rest.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Geez.

      For 4 years I have been here and heard how AS doesn’t go for the throat, then when he does, it is bad.

      • ladner morse

        not saying it’s bad… but it could have been maybe the 4th play of the drive…..

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          4th down then
          lol

    • KCMikeG

      How could they be tired? Not like they actually doing anything

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    See what I told you guys about deep passes.

    • Jeff Morton

      You are very wise.

    • tm1946

      When you are right you are correct.

  • Jeff Morton

    Maybe this can light a fire under the D.

    • Dave

      can’t bring back injured players though

      • Jeff Morton

        True enough.

  • KCMikeG

    It works so we won’t go back to it again! Just ask Kelce…

    • Jeff Morton

      I wish I saw no truth in this comment.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Bad news is….that puts our exhausted defense back out on the field

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Good news is that it won’t make a damn bit of difference.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        Is that really good news though?

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          It’s at least some news.

          The KC D (AKA Houston) needs to show the hell up!!!

          The damn Niners and Bear each have 2 sacks apiece. Has KC gotten that?

          • KCMikeG

            ZERO!!

    • KCMikeG

      Exhausted from what? Watching them run by>

  • tm1946

    This might be the play that will define this game…. Jets controlled the qtr and we use one play to duplicate it…

  • Dave

    No Allen Bailey, No Eric Murray, No Tamba, No Dee Ford. the defense can’t overcome

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      And when they were healthy (just about all of them) they sucked.

      • Dave

        Ford Houston and Tamba have never been healthy. Eric was doing ok replacing Berry these past few weeks

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          1. Ford – Does it matter?
          2. Houston – He’s been unhealthy for 3 years. And this year he was supposedly healthy. What good did it do him?
          3. Hali – should have been cut two years ago.

          • tm1946

            Sorry but the Chiefs have been telling us FOR YEARS the usual BS about how these guys are healthy and they are not.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      You forgot Gaines

    • tm1946

      Let’s just win the darned game then worry about the rest of the stuff.

      • Dave

        just explains the Jets O doing so well when the Giants and Bills could not

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Wow….let’s just give it right back

  • Heilios

    The defense is just awful

    • Dave

      Why wouldn’t they be, the offense looks better. So now its their turn to blow

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        The offense hasn’t done a half zillion WR screens this game.

        That is why they are better. And to start the year, they didn’t do a lot of them either. And they were awesome. Since the Pitt game, that is the only damn thing they run.

        See a pattern here.

        • KCMikeG

          TRUTH!

        • Dave

          yea its nice to see plays being called that are different

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      I’ve seen aweful…..this defense makes aweful look good.

  • tm1946

    I never complain about officiating… cannot control it anyway…but Sorensen did not do that much … just my view and wrong as usual.

  • Dave

    Thank god that was Steven Nelson and not Marcus Peters

    • Heilios

      I laughed when I read this. To bad it’s true

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    A punt??????

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Nevermind

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        I wasn’t sure if they were in range

        • Jeff Morton

          It’s okay. You were being optimistic.

          • tm1946

            In 2 years Peters will be with the raiders and tearing up the league and we…. well, we will have Andy Reid’s WCO and Sutton’s bend don’t break defense.

          • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

            Fact

          • tm1946

            Do not forget with no draft picks available or playing…. we can listen to how great Dorsey was.

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            That would be the break wish we bent defense.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Horse collar?

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    A non AS run for positive yards?
    Impossible

  • tm1946

    3rd and short and Kelce on bench and they throw to Erving. WOW, I know I am impressed.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      doing their best to make sure the jets win

  • Jeff Morton

    We better go for it on 4th with that lame ass call.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      so much for that.

      • Jeff Morton

        That’s just a throw away down. Maybe goal line, but a 3rd and 1 and you don’t have faith you can convert it without a trick play? Pathetic.

  • KCMikeG

    3rd and ONE and we throw to an OL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF is Reid doing?????

    • tm1946

      Supposedly Nagy… If you believe it.

    • Jeff Morton

      Looks like AR took back play calling, doesn’t it?

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    At what point will the KC coaching staff notice the trick plays are not working this year, and when you finally had a few good runs by Hunt and the deep pass going, you do trick plays?

  • KCMikeG

    Defense has QUIT!!! NEVER WRAP UP ON A TACKLE!! Shoulder chucks & pushing. I’m SICK! Physically ill from watching this shit show!

    • tm1946

      If you love good defense… do not watch the Chiefs.

  • tm1946

    Is Houston playing regularly this game?

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Has he in any game minus the Denver one?

      • KCMikeG

        NOPE! Put our best pass rusher back in coverage because our DB’s SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          Then why not put the best DB’s in as pass rushers then to have it all balance out?

  • Dave

    Houston needs some form of pressure coming from the other side of the line. there is nothing

    • tm1946

      Huh? dropping in coverage or whatever he is doing – what pressure do you get with that?

      • Dave

        when he doesnt drop that is

        • tm1946

          When did that happen, missed it.

  • tm1946

    Still betting we will win this game… but will be listening to the radio after the game…. I love Andy Reid pressers after game…. enough to make you vomit – win or lose.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Holy smokes, I have never seen us get killed in the middle as much as today

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      I can’t believe that. Runs up the middle and passes seem to be the norm.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        We get burned consistently in a lot of ways, it just seems like the middle has been how the Jets have raped us today

        • tm1946

          Defense is on last legs… Jets are running to many plays that our bend don’t break defense just flat ass gets tired, too tired.

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            Maybe it is reverse psychology.

            Get the opposing teams offense tired by getting your own D tired. Then, they’ll make a critical mistake and boom, you win the game.

          • tm1946

            With 5 yard cushion by CBs, no pass rush, and no sacks…. how do you get them to make a critical mistake?

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            They just get tired and make mental mistakes.

          • tm1946

            Thought you meant they would just do the Rip Van Winkle thing.. sit down and take a nap.

  • tm1946

    Look I like Sorenson but he is not fast enough to do what Sutton wants him to do.

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Did anybody know that McCown was the next up and coming Tom Brady?

    • tm1946

      ?? you mean as Tom Brady’s great uncle?

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Good thing we picked up Ragland…there would be zero tackles in this game

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Maybe some sprained ankles would slow them down.

  • tm1946

    No Revis, no DJ…. our roster is full of watchers from the bench.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      They earned it today

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Why? I didn’t read that they got hurt.

      • tm1946

        Trying to say (not very good at this) if you are not good enough why are you on the roster? Cut them, take the hit on the salary cap, bring in some one off the practice squads and put them in the game… if you are losing anyway.

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    The Jets actually have a legit shot of getting 500 yards of offense this week.

    • tm1946

      Maybe that is Joe Namath out there as QB?

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        Would the D know the difference?

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        Joe Namath in his current state could cut this defense apart

        • tm1946

          Just have to get someone to stand him upright.

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Nice. Use Hunt a lot more in the passing game.

    Any body notice how West isn’t in the game so much this week?

    • Heilios

      West isnt active today because of personal reasons

  • Dave

    How can they be allowed to have that damn tornado siren on all the fn time

  • Merlin

    I am finally home from work. It looks like the Chiefs finally found the end zone

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Hill of a throw!!

  • Heilios

    TD Hill!

  • ladner morse

    Cheering all around!!!

  • tm1946

    Told you guys we can win… one kick from leading…. and the Jets have a million yard and time off the clock .

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Go deep passing game!!!

  • ladner morse

    Now… the D will be on the field for the 36th minute of this game.

    CAN THEY HOLD?

    • Dave

      idk its been at least a FG each drive

      • ladner morse

        Just one hold. Just once.

        • tm1946

          I favor the Jets running up and down the field for a FG and Alex hit a receiver for a deep pass as time runs out.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Hahaha!
      You’re funny

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      I’m sure we’ll see plenty of the KC CB’s holding NYJ WR’s

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    I think the age old question has been answered……Smith or Reid’s play calling.
    Smith with 4 TDs under Nagy.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Would still like to see more good runs by Hunt.
      But, I like to see Hunt’s (both) in the passing game. Need the RB to be active and productive in the passing game in the WCO.

    • Heilios

      It was Andy holding Smith back now the D is exhausted and suspect.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      Not really sure we can make that evaluation after one game, but it definitely looked like switching to Naggy helped. We’ll see if it sticks.

      • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

        Well…. switching play callers seem to work like a charm on offense, now who can we get to take over Suttons duties?

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    This is a closer version of AS from the start of the season where the KC plays wern’t all WR screens.

    • tm1946

      Not sure where these deep passes are coming from…. maybe Nagy?

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        NE game.

      • Dave

        combined with all the shit talking on Alex I am sure he isn’t looking to check down like has been

        • JimHarbaughsguys

          No dude.
          Fans don’t tell the QB what to do.

          • Dave

            they watch ESPN and Read articles I am quite certain

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            And if it meant anything for AS 12 year career, he wouldn’t be who he is.

          • Dave

            you dont know bro, i mean shit Andy could have brought him into the office and said you job is on the line

          • tm1946

            Reid seems to be pissed… no sideline pictures and refused to talk to sideline reporter at half…. someone may have hurt his feelings.

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            That’s right. You dont’ know..
            Maybe he told AS that he will be the QB for the chiefs for the next decade and that gave him the confidence to make his plays today.

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    With Hill being one of the fastest men in the world, you have to wonder why we don’t go there more often.

  • KCMikeG

    PETERS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Merlin

    Nice to see some blitzes

    • tm1946

      OK if you think we have much success Sorenson pretending to be Houston?

  • tm1946

    Notice Sorenson and Mitchel blitzing McGown completes a pass…. Houston no where in sight.

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    cool
    I can see the game now that the Niners won

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      The 9ers won???
      Yeah right…lol

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        My Niners (with Foster) have a pretty darn good D.

  • KCMikeG

    PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • tm1946

      we got a 5 yard penalty

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    DJ sighting

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Bullshit!!!

  • tm1946

    Not sure what that was… ruffing the snapper?

    • KCMikeG

      There was no penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • tm1946

        They say the snapper’s head was down… how do you snap the ball if your head is not down?

        • KCMikeG

          He attacked the gap between the center and LG

  • KCMikeG

    WTF????????????????//

  • Dave

    idk even know what that was

  • tm1946

    Zombo is turning into a iron man…. for a backup he is always on the field.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      who is the starter then?
      All I hear is zombo

      • tm1946

        Hali is fixed but game day he cannot play, Ford is ford…KPass only plays on Houston’s side… leaves Zombo.

        • tm1946

          Or Sorenson

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    That 2nd down play looked like a reid trickery play

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    What did I say..
    KC will hold the NYJ after

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    The fix is in guys…I’m convinced

    • KCMikeG

      How much does Hunt get for taking the fall?

  • Dave

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA my god they hate the Chiefs

    • tm1946

      We saw this before…. didn’t we?

  • Dave

    Remind me of the Raiders game

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    Somebody is getting paid off!
    Raider game all over again!

  • Dave

    and not to mention the time that is being used on this drive

  • Heilios

    How many chances are they going to give the jets to score?

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Same as they gave the Raiders, until it happens

  • So where ya’ at Harry?

  • tm1946

    Before the game who would have suggested Zombo would be the only Chiefs to come near a sack and Sorenson and Mitchell would be pass rushers…. and Houston would be…. what the hell would you call his performance?

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      I would.
      The only defender I hear making plays this year on D is Zombo.

  • Heilios

    Bull

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    Damn
    Little time left with all those extra plays and stops..till the 3rd.

  • Dave

    we surely got fucked by the refs

  • tm1946

    Bailey got pushed back 4yards on a goal line stand…. Houston was out there watching the pay….

    We still got time.

  • Jeff Morton

    Do other teams get these calls against them? Is it just KC?

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    That holding penalty is BS
    And Peters is fuc* stupid.

  • who’d of thought a shootout type game?

  • Dave

    HAHAHA Love it

    • Jeff Morton

      You have to be kidding me?

      • Dave

        no i am not Peters did the exact right thing to say fuck you the refs

        • Jeff Morton

          The “kidding me” is about the refs. Unbelievable.

        • Heilios

          Right. This is crap. Give them 1000 tries until they finally score

        • KCMikeG

          The RIGHT thing would be to play like a ProBowl shut down CB! There is NONE of that going on!

  • Heilios

    This is horseshit

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    wonder if refs or coaches called told him to get off

  • KCMikeG

    PETERS NEEDS TO BE GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    AS11 has 2:15 left!

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      peters wasn’t kicked off by the refs for that?

  • tm1946

    hahahahah. Holding and dummy Peters throws the ball/flag into the stands….. That flag would be big money.

    If Reid had a hair on his ass…. have the defense huddle and refuse to line up…. he doesn’t.

  • tm1946

    This is Sports Center worthy…. a team falling apart before the very eyes of anyone still watching.

    • Dave

      would you not lose all patience with this officiating? You been out there all fucking game and you are treated like complete horse shit

      • Heilios

        MOAR FLAGS!

      • tm1946

        We did the same thing against raiders… what this defense does… officials or not… Peters…. yep I want him to be on team for years to come…. he is a chump.

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    KC D just stinks.

    • tm1946

      No stink here…. just a bunch of second level players who are immature, no discipline, prima donnas. Just what you get with a player’s coach like Reid.

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    How many times has the KC D forced a punt today?
    I think twice. Only once after the first drive.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      We have zero pass rush…..QBs have career days against us

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        McCown is a horrible QB.
        He has 2 rush TD’s now and 38 points.

        This is just bad. Really, really bad D.

        • tm1946

          Looks pretty good today.

      • tm1946

        Zombo almost got a sack… before we melted down.

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    If KC forces an OT will peters come back into the game since he just walked off by his own?

  • tm1946

    Peters quit… not ejected, he quit. Nelson tried to get him back on field…what a Chief.

    • KCMikeG

      PETERS CAN KEEP RIGHT ON WALKING ALL THE WAY TO OAKLAND!!

    • Heilios

      He quit many games ago. He doesnt try anymore

  • Heilios

    Will the officials give us 15 tries for a touchdown?

    • Dave

      lol no fn way if somehow they can f the Chiefs they will no doubt

    • Jeff Morton

      Of course not. It’s the Chiefs.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      In short….when hell freezes over

  • Jeff Morton

    I know we’ll probably F this, but if we should happen to score a TD, any chance of going for 2? Would you?

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      No….safe bet is overtime

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        Perers will come back and get an INT for a TD

      • Jeff Morton

        The thought of going to OT again in NY…ugh.

      • Heilios

        Really? They’d give them 12 chances to score again

    • Heilios

      Of course. Will Reid? Probably not

    • I would because OT is too fluky

  • Heilios

    Peters doesnt have socks on?

    • tm1946

      Probably had to get him out of the showers.

  • tm1946

    Good news Peters is back the season is saved.

  • Heilios

    Hill!

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    deep passing smith

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      And very good success at it

  • Heilios

    Hurry up!

  • Heilios

    Hunt just dropped it.

    • tm1946

      More likely the team dropped it after the second TD

  • Heilios

    That siren is awful

  • Heilios

    Well that was a shit show

  • Dave

    And an Alex throw to finish the game

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      That was a WR mess up.

      Got two or three guys in one small space and they all cut in. AS threw it up.

      • Dave

        Alex played a good game for sure

  • JimHarbaughsguys

    A WR screwed up there.
    Too many guys in that spot.

  • tm1946

    Game over…. how are the rest of the AFC West doing….or are we done.

    • Dave

      oh they other two will win today Giants and Browns

  • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

    No ifs or buts…..our season is over

    • Dave

      yea for sure

  • Jeff Morton

    Man, KC is a dumpster fire and Reid is at the center of it. This is a poorly coached team. Period.

    • Dave

      yea he deserves to be fired for this team

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        Reid deserves some credit for letting somebody else take the play calling.

        But his holding onto Sutton after the bye week and not firing him could be his undoing.

        • I think at this point, you fire the head coach. Sutton goes by extension. The Chargers win the west? I was going to do a piece on the “What If’s” for Sunday, starting with the draft. That’s next week now. Our Defense is a hind teat deal and blame for that goes to Sutton first, and Reid as HC. They have to field the players that they have and figure out how to utilize them. That’s not happening. The offense with Nagy and Smith? Heck of a game. What I expect is possible from all the tools at the disposal of the OC and they were exploited.

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            When the game started, I quickly looked up where the NYJ D is ranked.
            vs pass they were 15th
            vs run they were 25th

            The KC offense looked like the one that started the year (- the screw-up at the end where it was clear one of those guys on 4th down shoudn’t have been there and gone upfield).

            Sutton should have been let go after the Pitt game.

    • Nagy and Smith in Sync — and it showed in what Al Smith did in this game. Plus a 70 yard rush. The defense sucked. This was the Jets. Come on Man!(Sutton and Reid).

  • tm1946

    Just me but I want Peters gone…. he should never be in a Chiefs uniform again… or Clark Hunt can kiss my rear.

    • Dave

      you better find someone good then because whether he is actually good or not teams generally don’t throw at him

      • tm1946

        Do not care…. if he got hit by a train… would we stop playing football forever? Lose games… WE ARE DOING THAT WITH HIM NOW. Fuck him… apologies…

      • the negative vibes from him will continue and be a disaster in the locker room. He leads the wrong direction. He won’t make tackles. He may be a reason the other team doesn’t throw at him. He can be an Island. But why the hell can’t we cover 2 receivers on the otherside with the remaining personnel? This baffling to me.

      • KCMikeG

        That’s because everyone else is easier to beat!

  • Dave

    Even if we limp into the playoffs who cares? This team can’t win in there

  • KCMikeG

    I’M DONE. THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR ON SEASON TICKETS, CONCESSIONS, PARKING, GAS/HOTELS JUST TO END UP RUINING MY DAY ON THIS SHIT SHOW. BEEN NICE KNOWING YOU ALL.

    • Dave

      not that serious

    • So. Are you switching to Green Bay?

      • KCMikeG

        Nope. Always a KC fan – just not going to invest/waste my time and money.

      • Derek

        Lol packers are way worse. I live in green bay actually. That roster is a 4-12 team. One man show Aaron Rodgers and packers fans are way ignorant. Fuck Wisconsin lol. Also Alex looked competent today but still time to move on. This season is over and has been for 3 weeks. At least he might be worth a 4th rounder now. Good for him. Still a trash offense it always has been. Talent doesn’t Matter. Time to get younger and cheaper. Start mahomes (p.S. geno smith nearly beat the Raiders lol).

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      wouldnt blame you

  • whatever is occurring goes along with Reid losing the locker room. Nagy’s play calling got 1/3 of the tam effort on track. S/T is okay> Defense — there’s your dumpster fire.

  • tm1946

    Now am over disappointment… how will this team do against raiders… win out or no playoffs.

    • JimHarbaughsguys

      Just saw Lynch run for a long TD vs the NYG.
      The same team that KC could not run on at all.

    • The Chiefs have personnel. They lack 2 or 3 men on Defense. The playcalling today showed what can be accomplished. Big thumbs up on Nagy and Smith today.

      With a 6-6 team? It would be good not to finish strong — because we don’t have the personnel for winning in the playoffs. Better draft picks? We don’t have a 1 or 5 pick. Reid needs to go. My view. dammit, why did Hunt up him for 5 years? When Reid goes, hire Jon Gruder OR Spittin’ Bill away from Network jobs.

      • tm1946

        Sorry guy…. this roster is a joke… we are at least two years before we can challenge the AFC West… right into the teeth of the raiders, chargers, and possibly Denver (if they find a QB)… 2 – 3 players defense…. no more like 10 to 12 starters with both sides of the ball.

      • JimHarbaughsguys

        Geez guys.

        YOU DON’T NEED TO KEEP A HC AROUND!!

        You can give him a new contract and fire him the next day. IT HAS NO IMPACT ON THE CAP.

        The Niners have paid 3 HC’s salaries in the same season. It doesn’t matter.

        • tm1946

          For some reason I cannot understand (or want to understand) if Reid fell into the sun right now, this second, some fans say…. OH, MY GOD WHAT WOULD THE CHIEFS DO… well suspect they would play football next Sunday (and lose – but did that with Reid).

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            Sutton would be their HC if that scenario happened. Imagine that KC team.

          • tm1946

            Prevent offense and defense ….snatching defeat from the jaws of mediocracy?

          • JimHarbaughsguys

            Punts that would go backwards is what you’d get.

      • berttheclock

        Did you notice that some of the best offensive plays came with either play action and/or motion. However, did you also notice that after gaining that 14-Zip lead, they reverted to no play action and no motion? When, they went back to using either of the two, the offense clicked.

        • Faced with trailing at half-time, they came out and scored. Just not enough. Yes, I think Nagy went conservative a bit but turned back to the hot stuff. Just not enough. The defense’s inability to stop, oh, ouch, let me say it, the Jets? That is mediocre stuff.

  • drwillez37

    There goes the losing streak breaking…the refs totally screwed us just like the Raiders game!!!then SMITH throws to no one on 4th down.

  • Chiefly Bacon

    Smith isn’t the problem. Defense is. Smith isn’t the solution either. Three game winning drives attempted, two interceptions, and today shoulda made three. Still, not his fault, he did enough on offense that he shouldn’t have been in that position. Bob Sutton needs to go. Also, I hope that Revis either gets better as he knocks the rust off, or Chiefs quit starting him, cause dude was legit terrible today.

    • drwillez37

      Don’t coaches teach arm tackling isn’t the way to put players on the turf

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  • Chiefly Bacon

    As dumb as what Peters did was, it had no negative effect on the team unless he gets suspended. There was already a penalty, and it was in the red zone, so it was gonna be half the distance regardless. I can understand why he was frustrated. Refs gave Jets like 50 shots in the red zone. On a garbage team with a garbage defense, I’m actually happy to see a guy or two pissed off. Too many dudes just hanging their heads and accepting their fate.

    • tm1946

      Not sure how you can justify Peters actions, if that is what you are doing? Like it or not there are kids watching the pro football clowns and wanting to mimic what they do… should be fathers but why lie? He is a loose cannon and Kelce is just a step above it… hot dogs ( in my day). At some point in time you have to say… enough is enough…today was my enough day.

      Reporting Peters left the locker room before reporters could get inside…. guess if you can ball, you do not have to stand up and face the public access.

      • Chiefly Bacon

        Not saying what he did was smart, or even less than stupid, but fans at home are throwing stuff across the room, and Peters is more invested than they are. He’s gotta get that under control. We’ve had the same problems with Kelce. Sometimes the most talented players are that way because of their passion for the game. You deal with it till it costs you too much. I don’t think Chiefs have hit the point where Peters needs to go, but they do need to get him some anger management classes.

        • berttheclock

          However, when will the NFL get full time NFL Ref Academy trained officials and stop using these “Rent-a-Refs” who act as though they are holier than thou and completely above reproach? It is one thing to ask the youth to respect authority, but, often authority is not worthy of any respect.

          • berttheclock

            Yes and I served for 39 months where we were taught to salute the grade and not the man or woman wearing such.

        • tm1946

          Passion for the game…. so just walk off the field when it suits you. You are an intelligent poster and great admired for your comments but if this is what you really believe…. got no words for that.

          • Chiefly Bacon

            Peters walked off the field because he thought he was ejected. Came back once he found out he wasn’t. What he did was profoundly stupid and Reid needs to tear him a new one. Same as some of the antics Kelce has pulled, but I’m not willing to make the team far worse just to prove a point. I think Peters can still be fixed. He’s gotta be on a short leash though.

  • berttheclock

    As I predicted before the season, the Chiefs would go anywhere from 7-9 to 9-7. Why did I feel that way? Largely due to the last draft, where Dorsey failed to do much to address the deficiencies shown by the team in the playoffs. They lack muscle on both sides of the ball and the secondary is very scary. Plus, the draft resulted in creating a domino effect such as losing Poe which has really hurt the strength of the defensive front.

    This is not a playoff team even if they manage to slip in as a wild card. I really don’t think they will be able to defeat the up and coming Chargers. This team is going to have to rebuilt, not the suspected just rearming after last season. Today, the offense looked far better in several respects, but, when, your defense allows a 38 year old journeyman QB to look as though he really belongs as a starter (not only his passing, but, he ran for 2 first downs), then, the entire defensive coaching staff should be replaced. Plus, open beg to Mr Clark Hunt. Write off your deal with Andy “Mea Culpa” Reid and start anew with a completely new staff to lead many newcomers.

    • Chiefly Bacon

      Question. If the roster isn’t good enough, and that’s Dorsey’s fault. Smith played well enough, and the loss is not his fault. Reid gave up playcalling. What’s your problem with Reid? Dude is playing the hand he’s been dealt. Did his part to turn this team around. Only thing we can reasonably expect him to do more is fire Bob Sutton, which he may do at the end of the season. I’m not gonna crush him for not doing it now, cause the season’s a lost cause at this point anyway.

      • tm1946

        Are you suggesting the Reid has no input into his roster? He has been here for years and let Dorsey just do what he wanted… odd he could get Dorsey fired… come on, NO ONE can be really believe Reid is playing out the hand dealt to him.

        • Chiefly Bacon

          Look at the difference between Dorsey picks on offense and defense. Reid had some input, but so does Sutton. Dorsey had the final say.

          • tm1946

            Beyond the pale…. So he hides Ford for 2 years because Dorsey made the pick and Reid is afraid for his job…NO, sorry just wrong.

          • Chiefly Bacon

            I don’t get quite what you’re saying, but my point is: Sutton has input on defensive players. Reid has input on offensive players. Look over Chiefs draft history since Dorsey got here. Which group of players have Chiefs hit on more and missed on more. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=2310&type=team

          • berttheclock

            As David has written, something was very strange about Dorsey’s last draft as it was completely out of character. Look at how he failed so poorly in the lower portion of the draft. In other years, he was far better than both Pioli and King Carl in finding gems. My only objection for the years of Dorsey came down to the fact I thought he could have learned far better about contracts to players. He ended up overpaying often. But, he could find very good players and his work on the waiver wire was outstanding.

          • Chiefly Bacon

            Maybe. Can’t really grade a draft till a year or two later though. Picks that looked solid at one point: DAT, Ramik Wilson, DJ White, Mike Catapano for ex. don’t look so great now. Under Dorsey, 7th round picks were basically just throw aways, which was consistent this year. Eligwe and Chesson could still find roles next year.

      • berttheclock

        Reid has far more input into both drafting players and picking up FAs than he like the public to know. He loves to play the passive-aggression game of, as you say, “Geez, I can only play the hand I am dealt” He was very involved with kicking Alex Smith under the bus and begging for Dorsey to select a QBOTF.

        • Chiefly Bacon

          If Reid was in such a hurry to get rid of Alex, why is he doing everything possible to keep Smith on the field?

          • berttheclock

            Smith got off to a hot start and Reid thought Mahomes II might be better off sitting out a year. Now, he is afraid that putting Mahomes II in for the remainder of the season could get him hurt.

          • Chiefly Bacon

            I get where you’re coming from. Guess it just bothers me how many assumptions you make about Reid. It’s like you made your mind up that he’s a bad coach, and now it doesn’t matter what he does or what the team does, everything’s his fault. I think you might be making the same mistake I made with Smith. So much wrong with the team, it’s easy to find one scape goat. Sad truth is, there are a lot of people to share the blame. I’d just hate to kick Reid to the curb and spend the next five years hiring guys like Todd Hayley and Romeo Crennel. Reid’s at least done better than that. Honestly, I don’t know what to think. Good talk.

          • berttheclock

            I made up my mind about Reid last year after watching him fail so miserably in the playoffs. Plus, I lived in Seattle during the “glory” years of George Karl winning so many regular season games, but, failing in the playoffs. Also, I saw what happened to the one time great DC of the Bears, George Allen, who rose to a Peter Principle type in winning regular season games, but, failed in the playoffs.

    • berttheclock

      One other point about not containing McCown. On one crucial drive to take the lead, he was 8 of 9 in passing. Plus, look at one his top wide outs. Jerome Kearse had been a walkon from The Dub to Seattle, but, he got lost in the shuffle and they wanted him out. KC could have signed him, but, the Jets took him. They have a coming star in their second year wideout who was outstanding, but, Kearse ended up picking more receiving yards.

  • berttheclock

    The Chiefs are now zero for 3 against pro teams from the State of New York and 1 win two losses to former coaches who worked under Reid.

  • berttheclock

    As I told my buddy Ron at Dee’s Bar today, I am just too damned old to go through another rebuild program. Both Ron and I had to suffer through the waste land years of Steadman/Schaaf. That is the main reason I have become so upset over the falling apart of this team. I am really getting sick and tired of reading “Mea Culpa, we can do better”. Reid has copy righted the rights to that phrase. It has become his trademark and he will use it as long as he is coaching. The Eagles’ fans tried to warn all of us, but, most fans of the Chiefs failed to heed their remarks.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      Chiefs fans didn’t have any choice as they don’t do the hiring and firing of coaches, but you are right, the eagle fans did warn us……..we really didn’t have any other choice but to be optimistic though.
      You know……hope for the best.

      • tm1946

        Isn’t that for a younger generation, maybe you?. This team is probably 2 -4 years from being something special and they will not know if I am watching or not. Had season tickets until I retired and offered them to my relatives (they went with me to most games) between they and their wives (chose to not) could not afford beers there much less season tickets. Know what the Chiefs never miss us a bit. No, optimism is for the tailgaters or those who want to waste Sundays…. not enough left for old guys like me.

        • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

          I’m no spring chicken, and I am a very busy guy, I run my own business, I am a landlord and this season I am smack dab in the middle of building us a new house…….I actually get up early on Sundays work till 9:55, go in the house to watch the Chiefs, then go back out to work…….I’m actually typing this from my tractor on my phone….
          I said all that to say this….part of me is very tired of wasting my time on this any more………but my deep seeded love for this wretched team is what keeps me coming back and I hate that about me……..so here I am…lol

          • tm1946

            I have been weaning myself off NFL football mostly because every once in a while I allow my backbone to hold me up. I can honestly say I have not watched a complete NFL game except for the Chiefs since the kneeling/ Colin stuff began. Since the Giants game I have not been able to set thru a full Chiefs game…. I keep telling myself this is entertainment…. but in my working days… I never suffered fools lightly… do not like being treated like a fool by the Hunt family and the Chiefs. I know meaningless but my version of integrity raises its head once in a while.

    • Chiefs-Kings-A’s

      I’m not as old as you Bert, but I’m old none the less……..25 years of this and I’m feeling the same way….exhausted and feeling too damn old to go through another rebuild.

    • jimfromkcj

      bert, I just turned 84 Nov 29th, and looking and analyzing the Chiefs, I can’t but think they have got the team in such a state that it will take years to fix it. Houston and Berry are untradeable. I doubt anyone would even take them off our hands, let alone give any worthwhile picks. So we are stuck with paying and playing them or letting them go and paying the dead money. Either way we are stuck in cap hell and no easy way out. So at my age I will never see another super bowl.

  • Delaware Chief

    Just some observations, although due to work I only saw the last few minutes:
    1. Marcus Peters is an idiot. Don’t really need players like him, especially when they won’t tackle and are having downs seasons
    2. Something is really off with this team and has been all year. The amount of stupid plays and dumb penalties seem like they are at an all-time high
    3. How many games could have been won if the Chiefs could make a stop on 3rd down(13/20 for the Jets)or convert a third down on offense. To answer my own question, definitely the Raider game and today’s game and probably the Giants game as well
    4. As a coach of many sports over the years,I am one of the last to criticize coaches, but the defensive philosophy needs to change and I feel that the offensive line should be much better then they are. Perhaps a shake up needs to happen in those two areas

    Most of these are Captain Obvious observations, but overall football is a simple game and if you can eliminate mistakes, force the other team into mistakes and convert and/or stop third downs you should win a lot of games.

    With Brett Veach as GM perhaps some of the philosophies will change.

    I do believe that Andy Reid is a good coach and I always will, but his leadership is failing somewhat this year. It will be interesting to see what happens the rest of the year and then the off-season

    • tm1946

      If I may – why do you think Reid is a leader on this team? Team looks pretty leaderless from this outsider’s view.

      A better contributor than me, by far, is not maintaining that Reid only had some input on offensive players acquired and it is all Dorsey’s fault… sorry but I doubt it. First because he has no personal knowledge of One Arrowhead and second Does Reid look like he operates that way, heck he only game up play calling today after 4 years.

      it is what it is but will be harder to support the crap that is on the field right now. No on the field leaders, we got the nuts like Kelce and Peters as future stars as long as everyone loves them or they quit and suck their thumbs, Our veterans are all hurt or not playing at any kind of level anyone would notice…

      • Delaware Chief

        Very good points and honestly I don’t know how well Coach Reid is doing leading this team. From all indications he is not doing a good enough job and needs to step up his game just like the rest of the team and the coaches do. I guess I base my opinion on his past success with both the Chiefs and the Eagles,but whatever he is doing it is not working since week 5. It is a concern how outside of a few offensive players it is not appear that players our on the upswing and I just hope it is more injuries and not age that is catching up to them

    • iowaskcchiefsfan

      The whole team needs to play with discipline and focus. The mental errors, quit doing what they aren’t suppose to and start doing what they are suppose to. On the last Jet TD drive they had something like 10 plays from inside the 10.

      The Chiefs need to generate a pass-rush. Dee Ford and Tamba Hali have been on the sideline and while Frank Zombo is a good solid LB vs the run and in coverage, but he isn’t a pass-rush threat. IMO the Chiefs should go to a modified 3-4/4-3. Have K-Pass playing like a 4-3 DE, not have him dropping into coverage, stop the run and rush the QB. Have him penetrate, disrupt, and pressure. I would give Justin Houston the green light, he can rush or drop into coverage on his instincts.

      The OL should go to a Combo Blocking system (CBS) from a Zone Blocking System (ZBS). They should keep ZBS as far as pass-blocking, but switch to the more simple Power Blocking System (PBS) for the running game. ZBS is a more lateral area blocking. PBS is more of a straight ahead man on man blocking. The Chiefs with the exception of OC Mitch Morse, who is 6’6″, 305 lbs., are +6’5″, +315 lbs. They have pretty good size across the line.

      Kareem Hunt is getting like 10 or 11 carries a game. He should get more like 20 carries a game. IMO, Kareem get better with more carries. The Chiefs need to quit giving up on the run-game so quickly. Everything works off the run-game. Use motion, especially the Jet Motion-Read-Option. Get the ball into the hands of our play-makers. Keep the play-makers involved.

      I think if they clean-up the mental errors they would/will have more successful on both sides of the ball on 3rd down.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    Congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs on becoming the first team this season to lose to both the New York Jets and New York Giants.#KCvsNYJ pic.twitter.com/AV0ybynwaA— The Greek Sportsbook (@BetTheGreek) December 3, 2017

  • Derek

    You all need to lay off of mp22. Dude would be the perfect number 2 corner. Or number 1 if they lined him up to press actually… don’t blame him. He’s sick of the bullshit. So are we as fans. No different. He outs in so much time only to be underutilized and under appreciated. Next season we will have money, hire a few select FAs, like a dominant pass rusher draft a few key depth pieces and maybe a tackle. Hire a new line coach and defensive coordinator and we will be very good to great in two seasons

    • HOMER!! Dave

      meh, dude is playing to not get hurt, and him being “sick of the bullshit” is adding to the “bullshit” level. We’re at capacity so we really don’t need any more “bullshit” anyways.

      I do agree about the DC and O-line coach, they need replaced by tomorrow.

      • Derek

        He’s playing to not get hurt. I agree. That’s fine. Then they should pay him and get his mind off of the self-preservation shit he clearly has been dealing with. Probably knew all along that this was a throw away year anyway and wants his pay day. He’s certainly earned it. Would be nice if we only had to pay him as number 2 money rather than number 1 though. Perhaps a good incentives contract so he boosts his play should fix this situation. Also yes definitely underutilized. Sutton never puts anyone in the right position to succeed outside of Eric Berry, who would probably still be top 5 on any other team he’s THAT special and also earned his pay day. How many of you were complaining about that contract as well?

        • HOMER!! Dave

          For once, it was not I arguing about the Berry contract. I did disagree about the Houston, Fisher, Bowe, Hali, and JC25 contracts though and I don’t regret doing so for even an instant. Berry plays in a position that can absolutely make or break any given game, the others do not.

    • tm1946

      Underutilized and under appreciated… joking? He is a CB …. on a fucking island, all the cameras are on him…. You would apparently make an excuse for. him if he ran over kids at a playground… He is un disciplined, acts like a spoiled brat, only occasionally tackles, is a ball hawk but just does not since game 5.

  • HOMER!! Dave

    I remember people cussing about Dorsey getting fired. Welp, it might have been a tad late in coming when it’s all said and done.

    “It was a difficult decision,” Hunt said, “but after a thorough evaluation of our football operations, in the long-term interests of the Chiefs I felt it was best to make a change.”

  • iowaskcchiefsfan

    The Chiefs need to eliminate the mental errors and play with some discipline. The holding, movement, unsportsman-like, and the blown assignments. Stop doing what they aren’t suppose to and start doing what they are suppose to. Don’t be throwing some kind tantrum at the Refs.

    The Chiefs need to give Kareem Hunt more than 10 or 11 carries a game. Kareem should have around 20 carries a game. Switch to a Combo Blocking System. The Chiefs should switch to PBS (Power Blocking System) on run-plays. ZBS is a more complicated lateral blocking system that needs mobile OL that are agile and quick. Requires good communication. PBS is drive man blocking. The OL man on man drive block. The Chiefs have big OL. They are with the exception of Mitch Morse, 6’6″, 305 lbs., they are +6’5″, +315 lbs. This simple straight ahead knock the other guy on his butt blocking. ZBS would be used for the pass-blocking. When Safeties come up, play-action mid to deep.

    The Chiefs need to get a pass-rush. With Dee Ford sidelined, I might bring K-Pass in like a 4-3 DE/Pass-Rusher. The Chiefs should be rushing at least 4 of the Front 7. Twists and stunts. I would tell Justin Houston that he has the green-light to rush when ever he feels it. Let him use his instincts. Maybe use Reggie Ragland as the Spy to get the QB if he tries to escape . Have the CB play man coverage.

    • HOMER!! Dave

      I like Ragland, think he’s getting better every game and I hope he’s someone Kc can build around but I don’t really like him as a spy….he’s got stuff to do, ya’ know?

      • iowaskcchiefsfan

        Reggie is a little limited in coverage. If you drop him in Zone in the middle, you take away short/intermediate over the middle and having him spying the QB takes away some of the pocket escape plays. I’m pretty sure that the idea of getting to target the QB will appeal to Reggie. Reggie is known as a thumper. If he is sitting five or six yards behind the line of scrimmage he also takes away drawes.

        • HOMER!! Dave

          not arguing that, I’m arguing that his speed is not up to task. He can’t seem to keep up with QBs sideline to sideline.

        • I am arguing that. For the ILBs, pursuit is great and anticipation needed. But you pursue Wilson, Smith or a fast RB? C’mon. The edge with a 34 Defense belongs to the OLB not the ILBs.

          Whomever who has 4.3 -4.4 speed, it’s going to be tough straight up if the OLB doesn’t turn them inside and contain it.

          ILBs: to first anticipate and then react and then get there. ILBs have an advantage, they are say, 3-4 yards off the LoS.

          Next I will hear, well DJ… DJ and Reggie Ragland have about the same underwear speed from their combine numbers. With pads, dif. story and right now? Reggie is superior to DJ in that regard. Third: I went back to college film, and watched Ragland play. I watched 5 games of defense plays and Ragland dropped into coverage well enough to believe with some coaching he can do it at the pro level as well.

          Next: Ragland is not your WIL LB, he is the Mike. DJ is the guy whom you count on to pursue as the WIL. the Strongside guy remains the MIKE, the play is turned in by the OLB with straight to the gap fill when the RB hits the hole. DJ is to get the pursuit inside out to the strong side as the WIL.

          The Chiefs have needed a quality long term MIKE, especially since we what’s his name was released this year… sheesh. In fact, we have needed that guy for 5 year essentially, to play next to DJ and we now have him. What is the exposure? DJ’s rehab and loss of quickness and the fact that he will retire by the end of 2018. In Fact, unless he drops about 10 pounds and his rehab after the season isn’t getting him back to form, he likely will retire after 2017.

          Don’t get me wrong here. I am a big admirer of Derrick Johnson. He is truly a great player who was far underrated in his early years. He is a coach on the field and calls the defense set ups. But you can see, even if he is back to form in 2018? That’s his contract year and he wants to retire a Chief, and to coach when he is done.

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